$1.20 45 Man Sng

[Cappy37 0]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)saw flop|saw showdownButton (t1500)SB (t1500)BB (t1500)UTG (t1500)UTG+1 (t1500)MP1 (t1500)MP2 (t1500)Hero (t1500)CO (t1500)Preflop: Hero is MP3 with , . 3 folds, MP2 raises to t100, Hero raises to t1500....My line of thinking was to (hopefully) eliminate the blinds and get HU with the original raiser... What kind of range can we put villain on here? Anyone have ICM input as well?no reads on villain.

[biggswolll 0]

put him on a range of he's folding or he's calling either way your a 4-1 fav and who really cares what he has? P.S. you raise to 3-400 and hope he doesnt suck out....its a dollar if he does but value bet him to the end, i mean really you went AI. bah

[AKProdigy 0]

This early (first hand of a 5 table SNG), you can disregard ICM since +EV is close enough to +cEV. That being said... preflop play is so loose on the first hand of these things.. I definitely advocate going all in here and hoping you get callers. Hands like A 4 are willing to go all in preflop.. but will fold post flop if they don't hit. Get it in here and get a stack to work with. (This is only for the 1 dollar, 3 dollar ones... complete nonsense for anything with decent players).

[Sheiky 0]

Shove and get called by AK/AQ/KK etc, you're a huge favourite and are probably going to get called, all in is the right move here, i don't see the origanal raiser laying down a hand that he raised 5*bb with.

[Cappy37 0]

all right, spoiler time: the blinds actually folded (this has never actually happened before in the history of $1.20s), and I got it HU with the original raiser...Hidden Stake Time! I'm staking whoever guesses his 2 card holding (suits irrelevant) to a either a $1.20 45 man on stars, or a $1.10 MTT on Stars (doesn't have to be NLHE). 50/50 no stakeback necessary. To make things easier: none of Sheiky's 3 guesses in his post were correct, so eliminate those 3 from your responses.Remember: He raised 5x BB PF from MP2, and snap called my all in when it folded around to him.

[simo_8ball 0]

KJ, aka the internuts. That's my guess.

[Sheiky 0]

KK

[simo_8ball 0]

I actually prefer a smaller reraise preflop, but w/e. I would like to allow the blinds to overcall with KQ or something.

[Cappy37 0]

To make things easier: none of Sheiky's 3 guesses in his post were correct, so eliminate those 3 from your responses.

Shove and get called by AK/AQ/KK

KK

Ok Sheik, since I get to laugh at you, I'm giving you another guess free of charge.

[Cappy37 0]

I actually prefer a smaller reraise preflop, but w/e. I would like to allow the blinds to overcall with KQ or something.

How small? to 400? 500? anything short of a shove gets a couple hitchhikers, and we lead at *any* flop and pot-commit ourselves. Even on hand 3 or 4, I agree with you, but you're getting called by at least the original raiser 98% of the time here at $1.20.

[Sheiky 0]

Haha, you're post said that? God i complete missed it sorry.If it's not one of them, i'm going with AQ because everyone seems to love AQ all in PF at these levels.I reaaaaaaaaaaly need a stake....

[20TN40 0]

I'm guessing he had a pair of 8's

[simo_8ball 0]

How small? to 400? 500? anything short of a shove gets a couple hitchhikers, and we lead at *any* flop and pot-commit ourselves. Even on hand 3 or 4, I agree with you, but you're getting called by at least the original raiser 98% of the time here at $1.20.

We aren't looking to fold AA ever here. We reraise to say $400ish and let KQ catch top pair or something. If we get outdrawn so be it.I havent played the $1 games though, so I'm not familiar with the general play there. I would just hate to scare off AT, AJ, 99, etc when we could stack them by makng a smaller raise.

[Sheiky 0]

Simo, i think at these levels pushing is more right then not because of the massive range people will call you with, also, if we let them see a flop they may(though i doubt it) not want to get the rest of their chips in like they would PF.

[jethrodull 0]

all right, spoiler time: the blinds actually folded (this has never actually happened before in the history of $1.20s), and I got it HU with the original raiser...Hidden Stake Time! I'm staking whoever guesses his 2 card holding (suits irrelevant) to a either a $1.20 45 man on stars, or a $1.10 MTT on Stars (doesn't have to be NLHE). 50/50 no stakeback necessary. To make things easier: none of Sheiky's 3 guesses in his post were correct, so eliminate those 3 from your responses.Remember: He raised 5x BB PF from MP2, and snap called my all in when it folded around to him.

55 before reading rest of post..J

[Cappy37 0]

We aren't looking to fold AA ever here. We reraise to say $400ish and let KQ catch top pair or something. If we get outdrawn so be it.I havent played the $1 games though, so I'm not familiar with the general play there. I would just hate to scare off AT, AJ, 99, etc when we could stack them by makng a smaller raise.

Where is JM when I need him? $1.20s are so different they deserve their own tourney strategy section of the forum.Here's another hint to speed up this process:I originally posted the hand *specifically* to shock people with the Villain's holding. We can eliminate any chance of paint or an ace here.

[20TN40 0]

Oh dammit already! LOL I play these stupid $1.20's all the time and those donks go all in with absolutely nothing. But I'm dying to know what your donk had.........LOL

[natedawg2 0]

72

[ghostlove 0]

he either had another aa or 64.

[Cappy37 0]

Oh dammit already! LOL I play these stupid $1.20's all the time and those donks go all in with absolutely nothing. But I'm dying to know what your donk had.........LOL

So... care to wager a guess?edit: nm, I'm blind.

[20TN40 0]

I already guessed 88

[Freddec 0]

22

[AKProdigy 0]

KT

[copernicus 0]

ICM doesnt really have anything to do with it. Doubling up doesnt double your equity, but youve got AA, and the more you can get in the pot preflop the better off you are. If you can trick someone into calling thinking youre a donk just trying to overbet and steal then go for it. If theres a 10% chance you get called with the push, and you win 70% of the time, then pushing has an EV of 90%*130 + 10%*70%*1530- .1*.3*1500 = 179. If you raise to 230 and get called 60% of the time, win 60% of the time and the action ends there, 40%*130+60%*60%*260-60%*40**-230 = 292. The chances of you both playing later streets probably increases the 292 a little, so youre going to need 15-20% calls for pushing to be better. At this level that isnt out of the question.Edit: hmmmm....ATs

[jmbreslin 0]

Where is JM when I need him? $1.20s are so different they deserve their own tourney strategy section of the forum.Here's another hint to speed up this process:I originally posted the hand *specifically* to shock people with the Villain's holding. We can eliminate any chance of paint or an ace here.

LOL, I'm here. In fact I'm playing one of these $1.10 45's as we speak. Already got knocked out of another one when my nut flush lost to a rivered full house.Reraising all-in with AA is fine at this level because you will get called by a very wide range. People love to try to double up early in these and the donks really know how to overvalue hands.I was going to guess something like 99, but that sounds a bit too good based on what you've said so far. If we're also eliminating an Ace or paint, then my next guess will be 98s.