Analysis On This Hand?

[delasoul 0]

I bet a little higher on the flop to price out a flush draw. Just sat down so no read on villian. Weird line by player maybe flopped a striaght, or turned a set on me. Maybe even had kk aa What's your play on the river? Call, push, Fold??Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.508 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $7.75UTG+1: $20.50MP1: $12.30Hero: $76.85CO: $60.20Button: $21SB: $68.80BB: $98.15Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP2 with 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.25, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.Flop: :D ($7, 3 players)BB checks, Hero bets $8, CO folds, BB calls.Turn: ($23, 2 players)BB bets $7.5, Hero raises to $20, BB calls.River: ($63, 2 players)BB bets $25,

[SCS 0]

I think unless villain is the type of player that would play AJ like this I fold the river.

[danc1984 0]

Call. I think the price is right given that a fair portion of his range given the flop call and pathetic turn bet has to constitute a fd.

[BellaireDrew 2]

to me this looks like AJ or KJ of harts and he is making a defensive bet on the river. But I would just call just in case.

[mtdesmoines 3]

4.5:1 I call and pretty sure that it's a busted pair/straight draw hoping you can't call. We can't put villain on a set, because he didn't protect at all/never raised us.

[NoBBiR 0]

I don't think I'd be raising the turn when the villain donks into me, he could very easily have turned the nuts and be looking to get you committed. River is a call, pot odds are too good.

[Scott3705 0]

the turn bet is often a draw from most players. I understand BBIR's reservation about raising it because there are enough people out there that use it to induce a a raise with big hands. (Thanks Phil Gordon). lI don't think he has AJ with a busted flush draw. I would think he'd either lead harder or C/C if he had a one pair type hand. So with you calling behind and the smallish bet on the river, there's a lot of players that would have you at this point. The only reason that he might not have you is because you say he's been very active in mixing it up with people. So he has to have shown down some hands and you should have some idea of where he's at here.

[delasoul 0]

the turn bet is often a draw from most players. I understand BBIR's reservation about raising it because there are enough people out there that use it to induce a a raise with big hands. (Thanks Phil Gordon). lI don't think he has AJ with a busted flush draw. I would think he'd either lead harder or C/C if he had a one pair type hand. So with you calling behind and the smallish bet on the river, there's a lot of players that would have you at this point. The only reason that he might not have you is because you say he's been very active in mixing it up with people. So he has to have shown down some hands and you should have some idea of where he's at here.

Thanks for everyone's view. I re-raised the turn when he bet small. So either I'm very behind or way ahead here. I really don't think AJ makes this move here on the river. I would have taken the line as well if I was villian of leading harder on the turn or c/c as well and call any non threating river hoping that I was on a bluff. I actually laid this hand down. I thought I was beat, but it was strange to me because he never re-raised which most people would do on the turn if they set-up. The tricky part was that he bet such a small amount on the river I wasn't sure if he was thinking I was going re-raise again and have him push on me. My gut felt I was beat, but I didn't feel happy about it since it might have been a weak fold. I ran out of time so it ended up being a fold.The only play I could actually see someone doing this on a Jack, or someone who slow played AA,KK

[Whiskey16 1]

Why don't we think 45, 46, or some combination are a possibility here? Flopped two pair with 76?He may not have played them productively, and I know a small turn bet often times means a draw, but how often is this value type bet on the river a bluff? Often enough to make the 4.5-1 call correct?This board isn't that scary that I'm OOP like the BB, I'm not worried about keeping a PF raiser who's shown arrgession around where I feel like I need to push a set or two pair very hard.

[NoBBiR 0]

to me this looks like AJ or KJ of harts and he is making a defensive bet on the river. But I would just call just in case.

I think it's a call based on nearly 4:1 and because of the above, but that's just me - possibly J10hh too.Although, really, this call should be based on what you've seen him show down since he has been active.

[mtdesmoines 3]

4.5:1 I call and pretty sure that it's a busted pair/straight draw hoping you can't call. We can't put villain on a set, because he didn't protect at all/never raised us.

Why don't we think 45, 46, or some combination are a possibility here?

[whiterice714 0]

I bet a little higher on the flop to price out a flush draw. Just sat down so no read on villian. Weird line by player maybe flopped a striaght, or turned a set on me. Maybe even had kk aa What's your play on the river? Call, push, Fold??Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.508 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $7.75UTG+1: $20.50MP1: $12.30Hero: $76.85CO: $60.20Button: $21SB: $68.80BB: $98.15Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP2 with 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.25, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.Flop: :D ($7, 3 players)BB checks, Hero bets $8, CO folds, BB calls.Turn: ($23, 2 players)BB bets $7.5, Hero raises to $20, BB calls.River: ($63, 2 players)BB bets $25,

read no replies, will edit... if i cover something stupid :-Xyou're beat... him check calling the overbet on the flop alone should signal this... then to donk bet into you on the turn, & THEN call the reraise you throw @ him & then lead the river?you're ahead here like zero % of the time IMO... let it go... it's just an over pair...*edit* idk, maybe i'm a donkey... i'd probably still fold right here, just the fact that he called the $8 on the flop is soo wierd to me...

[BellaireDrew 2]

idk, maybe i'm a donkey... i'd probably still fold right here, just the fact that he called the $8 on the flop is soo wierd to me...

why is it so wierd to you for a player to call an $8 bet in a $7 pot. not everyone who plays (esp. in 50NL) make rational decisions based on the pot size. I see ppl all the time call >potsize bets with all kinds of weird hands.

[NoBBiR 0]

why is it so wierd to you for a player to call an $8 bet in a $7 pot. not everyone who plays (esp. in 50NL) make rational decisions based on the pot size. I see ppl all the time call >potsize bets with all kinds of weird hands.

Especially on that board, it's super drawy. He's not laying down a SFD even for an overbet, so we're not beat 100%, just more like 80%

[whiterice714 0]

true true i see this logic... but still, i'm not so certain we're good here... i probably say "i'm so weak tight" & fold disgusted...even after the calling of the overbet, ok, but then db & call reraise? & then db river?actually fucc that i call for info & take notes...