Ricer98 0 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Button ($28.84)Hero ($44.58)BB ($5.68)UTG ($24.99)MP ($49.27)Preflop: Hero is SB with T, 9. 1 fold, Button raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.75, 1 fold.Flop: ($1.95) 7, 8, 6(3 players)Hero checks, Button bets $1.25, Hero raises to $4, Button calls $2.75.Turn: ($9.95) 8(3 players)Hero bets $6, Button calls $6.River: ($21.95) 6(3 players)Hero checks, Button bets $17.99 (All-In), Hero ?Terrible turn and river of course. But, every draw missed, except of course runner runner full house. I was playing 4 tables so no reads on villian. Link to post Share on other sites
rdtedm 0 Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 I hate to say it, but I can't really picture a hand played this way that you beat. Flop is fine, but i'd bet closer to pot on the turn. I think if we make a blocker bet on the river and villain raises its much more clear what to do. But a check on the river pretty much shows that you dont have a boat, and its going to be hard to call anything without a boat, so villain might have a wider range. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 The only hands you're beating is A-x clubs and a piss poorly played overpairFold Link to post Share on other sites
Ricer98 0 Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share Posted September 19, 2007 I hate to say it, but I can't really picture a hand played this way that you beat. Flop is fine, but i'd bet closer to pot on the turn. I think if we make a blocker bet on the river and villain raises its much more clear what to do. But a check on the river pretty much shows that you dont have a boat, and its going to be hard to call anything without a boat, so villain might have a wider range.Well, I don't like putting out blocker bets, I'd rather check call than bet fold all day long. Check call atleast lets us pick off a bluff. Blocking bets simply induce bluffs, atleast to observant opponents. The reason I'm unsure of this hand is because of what you stated, I will never have a boat after checking the river. Which, opens the villians betting range dramatically. Link to post Share on other sites
Ricer98 0 Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share Posted September 19, 2007 The only hands you're beating is A-x clubs and a piss poorly played overpairFoldI'm beating more than just an A high flush draw. Villians range to open the button includes so many hands that would've flopped a draw and missed. A9,K9,Q9,A5,J9 ect, ect, ect. Any club draw, not just the nut draw. I'm losing to an 8, a 6, or 77. Most players are 3 betting the flop with 77 or raising the turn so its hardley ever going to show up IMO. The only hands with a 6 that make sense are 69, or maybe 56. On top of being beat by few hands my river check tells the villian I dont' have a boat. Which means I'm giving him a green light to bluff EVERYTHING.I think I pick off a bluff here quite alot. Enough to make calling correct, I'm not sure. At higher limits and more aggressive players, definetly. Lower limits, egh? One of those times I wish I was only playing 1-2 tables and had reads. Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Raise more on the flop, IMO. As played, Check/fold on the river is standard against a non-tard. Link to post Share on other sites
over-it 0 Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 There are only two hands that have you beat, full house and quads. Button didn't raise preflop with 68. Button could have raised preflop with 66 or 88, but seeing as how both a 6 and an 8 came on later streets, I would doubt that's what they're holding. There's no flush, you've got the nut straight. You've got your opponent covered. Kind of a no-brainer call to me. I kind of have him on an over pair to the board, but could likely have A8. I just don't think you want to let yourself get pushed around while you have a straight and the chip advantage. Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Not your question, but maybe fold preflop. (910 is my border line suited connectors that I'm going to take heads up SHed. I'll call against a tighty and usually fold them against habitual button stealers. Anything less I'm usually folding.) suited connectors dont' really play well out of the blinds against LP raisers in shed games.Not your question either, but I'd prefer to weak bet the flop as opposed to the C/R. I guess this sort of depends on how you going about the lines you take when you're defending the blinds with air. I weak lead a lot, so that's sort of my default line.Stakes make me weight overpair a little stronger than others here suggested. I would have preferred him to slow down on the river since I would think an overpair would probably check in position at the river considering if his overpair is good, then you just missed your draw. I don't know 4-tabling with no reads kinda sucks for this reason. Link to post Share on other sites
Ricer98 0 Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share Posted September 19, 2007 Not your question, but maybe fold preflop. (910 is my border line suited connectors that I'm going to take heads up SHed. I'll call against a tighty and usually fold them against habitual button stealers. Anything less I'm usually folding.) suited connectors dont' really play well out of the blinds against LP raisers in shed games.This is pretty much my normal line, call against tight players and either 3 bet or fold against someone who steals a lot. Pretty much I was playing bad and got stuck so I decided to gamble with it and see a flop. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 But, every draw missed, except of course runner runner full house. I was playing 4 tables so no reads on villian.Muck it and weep. Link to post Share on other sites
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