Tough Turn Decision

[bdc30 0]

Villain is 90/35/2 -- 150 handsFull Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$15 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $40.60CO: $149.30Button: $26.30SB: $102.75Hero: $100.10Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 4 2 3 5 UTG calls, CO raises to $4.5, 2 folds, Hero calls, UTG calls.Flop: Q 7 6 ($14, 3 players)Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $14, Hero calls, UTG folds.Turn: K ($42, 2 players)Hero checks, CO bets $42, Hero ???

[checkymcfold 0]

hmm, i think i shove the flop, actually. the .50/1 game on tilt, there's not a whole lot of reason to think your low isn't good relatively often, and you hate a lot of high turns, and you're oop. i probably shove and pray--your EV is never more than a little bit icky here.

[BudBundy 0]

hmm, i think i shove the flop, actually. the .50/1 game on tilt, there's not a whole lot of reason to think your low isn't good relatively often, and you hate a lot of high turns, and you're oop. i probably shove and pray--your EV is never more than a little bit icky here.

Do you have any advice for us about100$ max on tilt?

[pokerinc 0]

seems like a great flop to get it in on. I think you have 38 outs on the turn....omaha's crazy.

[checkymcfold 0]

Do you have any advice for us about100$ max on tilt?

come in raising, raise out of the blinds with 3+wheel cards to build pots for when you hit (unless you don't have an ace and it's likely the aces are gone), and make your cbets consistent, unless you're oop in a multiway pot and totally whiffed. if you're 1/2 pot cbetting a lot, your opponent is the one making the decision to play for all his chips by repotting--that way, you get to pick and choose which hands are for all the money on the flop and can judge the fight back ranges of your opponents for all the info you need to win the money.there. :)oh, one more thing: about plo8 in general, and it applies to plo as well--if you're in position, you can worry about pot sizes and trying to control them and stuff based on the strength of your hand. OOP, though, your general mindset should be more concerned with either getting out on the flop or getting all the money in on the flop. that way, brick turns can't hurt your drawing equity when you can't be taking free cards from OOP.

[troyomac 0]

Definately don't shove the flop. There's a good chance you're only playing for half the pot here since your straight outs give A2 nut low, and your low outs (if you have any) don't make you a high hand. If he has a high only hand then you are looking a lot better, but you don't know what he has. I probably call here because I like action, but I wouldn't be against folding. The turn is an awesome card for you. I pot, and insta call if he shoves. If he has a set or top 2 pair and calls, you're in good shape to scoop, or at least get half. If he has a low draw then he has to fold (unless he has a flush draw or top pair to go with it). Potting that turn is wayy better than checking.

[Chamonyx 0]

Definately don't shove the flop. There's a good chance you're only playing for half the pot here since your straight outs give A2 nut low, and your low outs (if you have any) don't make you a high hand. If he has a high only hand then you are looking a lot better, but you don't know what he has. I probably call here because I like action, but I wouldn't be against folding. The turn is an awesome card for you. I pot, and insta call if he shoves. If he has a set or top 2 pair and calls, you're in good shape to scoop, or at least get half. If he has a low draw then he has to fold (unless he has a flush draw or top pair to go with it). Potting that turn is wayy better than checking.

The first para above is actually a good reason for pushing the flop - you want to get rid of UTG and you want to see 2 cards against probable aces, who will almost certainly never lay it down at this level.With deeper stacks (especially) and against thinking players then calling the flop has more merit and I agree with your second paragraph:On the flop against AAxy it is 60/40: if x or y are 2 or 3 then you are behind, if x and y are 5 or higher then you are ahead.On the turn, the flush draw means one of 2 things: you are either way behind if he has one too (bit worse than 80:20) or you are at worst 2:1 so you have the odds to play. In some ways it's a bit like calling a big all-in pre-flop with AK in HE: at best you have the right odds to call. However a key difference here is that you get to act first...If he does have AA and a brick comes on the turn, if you lead then there is a good chance he may put you on 2 pair and fold, especially if his x&y are not good lows. If he plays, you still don't mind as you probably have the right price.....but calling the flop buys you the option of making the play on the turn: as Badger points out, he can't fold if either of you are all-in.