bigkg 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Discuss Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Portland gets another top 5 pick next year... Link to post Share on other sites
keith crime 8 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Portland gets another top 5 pick next year...genius - that's how the spurs got tim duncan! Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,723 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 To early for Blazers fans to wish they had taken Durant? Link to post Share on other sites
keith crime 8 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 To early for Blazers fans to wish they had taken Durant?Really at this point having a player blow a knee out as opposed to beating a nanny or trying to sneak some weed through customs in tin foil has to be considered a triumph for the Blazers Link to post Share on other sites
Livaso 0 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Really at this point having a player blow a knee out as opposed to beating a nanny or trying to sneak some weed through customs in tin foil has to be considered a triumph for the BlazersHaha.The Blazers measure success in increments of misdemeanors. Winning a championship is -6 misdemeanors. Having the future of your franchise blow his knee out before the first game is 1.4 misdemeanors.We were all joking how Oden seemed injury prone. I'm going to withhold judgment until season 2, but I don't expect as much from Bill Simmons. Durant's stats are going to be bloated because of his crappy team. I expect next year's rookie of the year will be him or Bellinelli. Link to post Share on other sites
Cappy37 0 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 I spent a solid month in this forum screaming for the Blazers to take the "sure thing" in Durant, so I don't want anyone laughing at *this* Blazer fan. "I told you so" doesn't work on me, Because I told you ALL so.Makes me sick to my stomach. There was about 4 games last year where Oden was the best player on the court. There wasn't a single game last year where Durant was anything *but* the best player in college basketball.Sam Bowie all over again. Took the best available big man with injury history over a phenom. I called it from the start, I'll say it till Oden and Durant retire (Oden next year, Durant in 15 years, of course).Just sick beyond words. Went from building a solid playoff contender to hoping for a shot at OJ Mayo, when the basketball gods already "blessed us" and we pissed it completely away. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 I've seen OJ Mayo play, I don't get the hype. He chucks up some ridiculous shots that have little chance of going in. He isn't the imposing physical specimen LeBron is. I think he is a lot more likely to be the next Marbury than Iverson.I still don't get the hatred over Oden's injuries. He was never hurt in High School, injures his wrist before the college season and plays through it learning to shoot off handed. He has to get his tonsils removed, and tweaks a knee. If he comes back and his back snaps in half I'll agree but this is all fairly minor stuff in the grand scheme of things. Two injuries in a year in a half don't necessarily mean he is injury prone. Now the other big men on the Trailblazers will get a year to develop and if they stay together they will have a really deep front line. Link to post Share on other sites
bigkg 0 Posted September 14, 2007 Author Share Posted September 14, 2007 Don't hope for a shot at OJ Mayo, hope for a shot at Derrick Rose. Link to post Share on other sites
Cappy37 0 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 I've seen OJ Mayo play, I don't get the hype. He chucks up some ridiculous shots that have little chance of going in. He isn't the imposing physical specimen LeBron is. I think he is a lot more likely to be the next Marbury than Iverson.I still don't get the hatred over Oden's injuries. He was never hurt in High School, injures his wrist before the college season and plays through it learning to shoot off handed. He has to skip summer league, hang out at the ESPYs and then get his tonsils removed, and tweaks a knee. If he comes back and his back snaps in half I'll agree but this is all fairly minor stuff in the grand scheme of things. Two injuries in a year in a half don't necessarily mean he is injury prone. Now the other big men on the Trailblazers will get a year to develop and if they stay together they will have a really deep front line.FYP. So that's technically 2 surgeries post-draft and before his first NBA game. You've eased my mind completely, thank you!Alridge is now our starting PF, since we traded gave away Zach Randolph for Steve Francis who will now be our leading scorer start for some other team after we traded him paid him 3/4 of his salary to play elsewhere for the NBA minimum. Now we are looking forward to a season where we will score a lot of points Brandon Roy is the only player on our team who could score 30 points in 48 minutes if he was the only player in the gym. Our starting center, Greg Oden Joel Pryzbilla is a model of health currently healthier than our rookie phenom. I can't wait for the season to start so I can win a ton of free chalupas every time we break 100 watch us average 80 points a night and fall deep into the lottery. I really love the thought of hoping for OJ Mayo thought that for once, like par for course the last 20 years, the Blazers were going to be able to ignore the draft next year.Did I mention we gave away our leading scorer? Here's our current roster (mainly from memory)1. Brandon Roy2. Jarret Jack3. Steve Blake4. Lamarcus Alridge5. Sam Bowie Greg Oden6. James Jones7. Martel Webster8. Sergio Rodreguiz9. Joel Pryzbilla0. Travis Outlaw (shrewd resigning, deserves its own post truthfully. If you don't know who he is it's ok, you'll never need to.)So ummm.. Anyone up there besides Roy you ever going to need to double team? Not only can you rest your team for Blazer games by running a zone, you could probably sneak a carboard cutout or two in your starting 5 and *really* rest up your team. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 He didn't skip all of summer league. And having your tonsils out is hardly an injury, your tacking that on like he blew out his ACL. Link to post Share on other sites
bigkg 0 Posted September 14, 2007 Author Share Posted September 14, 2007 People can't seriously be counting getting his tonsils out as an injury, can they? Link to post Share on other sites
Livaso 0 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Amare is the exception not the rule when it comes to micro-fracture knee surgery. I can't even say "If he is who he was when he comes back" because we don't even know what he "was" yet. He didn't "tweak" his knee, he had an injury that's taken more money away from athletes than the IRS.I hope he returns and can live up to the hype. Having surgery on your knee at that age means a long 10-15 years for you. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 I think your going to see cases like Amare become more common with the improvements in sports medicine. Link to post Share on other sites
SilentSnow 1 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 I think your going to see cases like Amare become more common with the improvements in sports medicine.Maybe, maybe not. From what I have heard, Amare's injury was on a non-weightbearing area, which is very important in this type of surgery for your chances of a full recovery. Unfortunately for Oden, his was partly on a weight-bearing area, whatever that means. So while it might not a worst case scenario, it doesnt seem to be the best case like Amare's either. If I were a Portland fan I would be very worried, because even if he mostly recovers from this injury, he will still probably be more susceptible to problems in the future.http://www.theolympian.com/sports/story/216988.html Link to post Share on other sites
Cappy37 0 Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 I've said all that I can bring myself to say. The wound is too fresh. Picture the Blazers last year without Zach Randolph.We're a lock for at least the 3rd most ping pong balls.In summary: Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 I've said all that I can bring myself to say. The wound is too fresh. Picture the Blazers last year without Zach Randolph.We're a lock for at least the 3rd most ping pong balls.In summary:And thats a bad thing?Yea it makes for one frustrating year as a fan but you get to add another top talent to the team and if they keep that nucleus together they are going to have a phenomenal squad down he road. Remember the Spurs fans crying when Robinson was hurt that whole year, then they landed Tim Duncan in the draft... yea I wonder how much they complain now. Link to post Share on other sites
Cappy37 0 Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 And thats a bad thing?Yea it makes for one frustrating year as a fan but you get to add another top talent to the team and if they keep that nucleus together they are going to have a phenomenal squad down he road. Remember the Spurs fans crying when Robinson was hurt that whole year, then they landed Tim Duncan in the draft... yea I wonder how much they complain now.Oden is older than Robinson, haven't you gotten a good look at him? :PSeriously, though.. 3 months ago, I had the #1 pick and Boston fans were lining up on the edges of tall buildings. I spent a great deal of time consoling Celtic boosters and as it stands now.. we're thinner in the front court than they are. For those scoring at home, it's twice in the last 20 years we've squandered the best thing that happened to our franchise. It's a bitter pill to swallow. I hated sending away Randolph in the first place, especially for that pu pu platter we got in return, and now... now we have Aldridge and umm.. a hobbled Pryzbilla.. a hobbled Raef Lafrentz.. a kid named Roberts, and the monster known as Channing Frye. Go to Espn.com and peruse the Blazer's roster.. Figure out some dream scenario where we can average 85 points a game. I still can't. Just.. so sick.. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Oden is older than Robinson, haven't you gotten a good look at him? Frye is a good prospect, he was the best player on the court for the Knicks through various spurts last year. And Randolph isn't that great. He is a headcase, undersized and will probably fall off quickly when he does. Not to mention his stats were inflated by just being surrounded with a poor team. I'm not 100% on board with that trade to the knicks either, but you wern't winning anything with the guy here... if your gonna rebuild go the whole way. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Zach Randolph sucks and I wouldn't take him on my team. I can't fathom a scenario where I'd be sad to see him go. Link to post Share on other sites
Cappy37 0 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Frye is a good prospect, he was the best player on the court for the Knicks through various spurts last year. And Randolph isn't that great. He is a headcase, undersized and will probably fall off quickly when he does. Not to mention his stats were inflated by just being surrounded with a poor team. I'm not 100% on board with that trade to the knicks either, but you wern't winning anything with the guy here... if your gonna rebuild go the whole way.You are seriously confusing Frye with David Lee. Randolph will score, play no defense, and grab any ball off the backboard that bounces at least two times. But he will score. I chuckle when people compare him to Curry, because they are truly two peas in a pod. Still, scoring 23+ a night for a poor team is still quite an accomplishment. We shed some serious contract, but we still have Miles on the book.We also let Jamaal Magliore walk, and he won a college championship. Cannot undervalue a sold big man, especially one who knows how to win. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 You are seriously confusing Frye with David Lee. Randolph will score, play no defense, and grab any ball off the backboard that bounces at least two times. But he will score. I chuckle when people compare him to Curry, because they are truly two peas in a pod. Still, scoring 23+ a night for a poor team is still quite an accomplishment. We shed some serious contract, but we still have Miles on the book.We also let Jamaal Magliore walk, and he won a college championship. Cannot undervalue a sold big man, especially one who knows how to win.Nah, Frye has a lot of upside. I'm not confusing him with Lee... I don't even think that's possible.You also have a ridiculously overpaid Raef contract. So big it got a article on the brushback. Raef LaFrentz Grateful To Be Included On All-Overpaid Team PORTLAND--The Portland Trail Blazers’ Raef LaFrentz was pleasantly surprised last week to learn he was featured on The Sporting News’ list of the Top 10 Most Overpaid Players in the NBA. LaFrentz is currently earning around $12 million to play limited minutes as a backup center. “That’s a sweet thing, to be included on that list,” LaFrentz said. “It means you’re making a shitload of money for doing hardly anything. What could be cooler than that? Sure, I’d like to be an all-star who is supposedly ‘earning’ all his salary, but if you can’t be an all-star – and I can’t – you should at least be wildly overpaid. I just feel so sorry for those guys who are terrible basketball players and are paid accordingly. What a horrible fate. Get a new agent, losers.” Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 That's a hilarious LaFrentz quote. Link to post Share on other sites
Cappy37 0 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Lafrentz made getting Brandon Roy (and losing Sebastian Telfair) possible, I won't throw him under the bus. Link to post Share on other sites
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