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yeah and the top 2 cant even come close to Mccabe and Kaberle
The discussion was about the 3rd best d-man, Serge. You consistently seem to change the topic when you are PWNED!
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Just a quick update on the camp....Leafs are facing BuffaloHere are the lines that Maurice will be going withSundin Blake and TlustyStajan Steen and DevereauxKilger will be tried at centre as well....We are getting close now...These games are a lot more meaningful than the first few exbition games..Full report to follow after the game.

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Just a quick update on the camp....Leafs are facing BuffaloHere are the lines that Maurice will be going withSundin Blake and TlustyStajan Steen and DevereauxKilger will be tried at centre as well....We are getting close now...These games are a lot more meaningful than the first few exbition games..Full report to follow after the game.
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Leafs made their final cuts yesterday and this the team that we will start with...1st line....Sundin--Blake and Antropov2nd line....Kilger...Tucker and Pohl3rd line....Stajan..Steen and Ponikarovsky4th line....Devereaux, Belak and Bates BattagliaKris Newbury also made the team...The Leafs will start with 8 dmanMccabeKaberleKubinaWhiteWozniewskiGillStralmanKronwallToskala and Raycroft the goalies....Also to note is that Bell's suspension will begin today and he will be back in early november, when hopefully Wellwood will be ready to go as well...GO LEAFS GO

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I'm not thrilled by those lines.It'll make a difference when Wellwood and Bell are back.The 2nd line looks terrible, imo, and there's a hole on the right wing on the first line.I like the 3rd line though, and the 4th line is well, it's a 4th line.

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I'm not thrilled by those lines.It'll make a difference when Wellwood and Bell are back.The 2nd line looks terrible, imo, and there's a hole on the right wing on the first line.I like the 3rd line though, and the 4th line is well, it's a 4th line.
second line doesnt necessarily mean the second best line...But in comparison here is what Tsn is reporting to be the Senators lines...Foligno-Fisher-EavesVermette-Kelly-NeilDonovan-Mcratton-Shubert..We all know that the sens might have the best top 3 in hockey however the Leafs overall are deeper...Add Wellwood and Bell to the mix, the Leafs compare very favourably to the Sens...I also beleive our defence is better and goaltending is better as well....
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I strongly disagree.Fisher is a beast. Eaves is very good. Foligno, a rookie, was impressive in camp, and should fit in with those two.Vermette is a great player, imo. Kelly is solid, and well, Neil is Darcy Tucker (minus the PP time).The 4th line is a 4th line.Ottawa 1st Line >>>>>>> Toronto 1st LineOttawa 2nd Line >>>>>>> Toronto 2nd LineOttawa 3rd Line > Toronto 3rd LineOttawa 4th Line <> Toronto 4th LineIMO.Even with Wellwood and Bell.

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I strongly disagree.Fisher is a beast. Eaves is very good. Foligno, a rookie, was impressive in camp, and should fit in with those two.Vermette is a great player, imo. Kelly is solid, and well, Neil is Darcy Tucker.The 4th line is a 4th line.Ottawa 1st Line >>>>>>> Toronto 1st LineOttawa 2nd Line >>>>>>> Toronto 2nd LineOttawa 3rd Line > Toronto 3rd LineOttawa 4th Line <> Toronto 4th LineIMO.Even with Wellwood and Bell.
Agreed. Althought I would call the third lines closer to even with Bell in the lineup...
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Wellwood will eventually be in the lineup...I would have the second line as Welwood centring Tucker and Poniand third line Steen,Stajan and BellI will take those lines against Ottawa anyday...Fisher is a beast you say...Not even you can think he is better than Wellwood...and NEIL IS DARCY TUCKER...are you kidding meDarcy scored 24 goals in 56 games last year....Neil scored 12....Please dont compare a goon with Tucker.

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I'm undecided on Bell, and what he can actually bring to this team. I'm sure he's an upgrade from like Battaglia, though.
Bell is a wildcard...All the interviews i have seen with him he seems to be saying the right things and has the right attitude to change his life around...He scored 25 goals on a pretty crappy Chicago team before he had his off ice problems...and he was an 8th overall pick so the kid has some raw talent...he could either fizzle and run into more problems...or he could become a 30 goal scorer in this league...As a Leaf fan I hope for the second scenario...
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Paul Maurice has named Andrew Raycroft the starting goalie tonight..Only in Toronto is their a goalie controversy before the season starts..My theory is he will start Toskala in Ottawa, so if he lets one softie in the fans dont get on him early....Then he will go with the hot hand...Game day Prediction...LEAFS 6 OTTAWA 3

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My theory is he will start Toskala in Ottawa, so if he lets one softie in the fans dont get on him early....
Real smart move, trading high picks and giving big money to a goalie who can't handle the pressure of opening night. Sounds like a great trade.
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Real smart move, trading high picks and giving big money to a goalie who can't handle the pressure of opening night. Sounds like a great trade.
As opposed to starting Raycroft, who proved LAST year he couldnt handle the pressure of playing at home. THIS year, with someone PUSHING him, and the home opener, no pressure at all..... ROFL
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As opposed to starting Raycroft, who proved LAST year he couldnt handle the pressure of playing at home. THIS year, with someone PUSHING him, and the home opener, no pressure at all..... ROFL
At least, This way, he can be pulled in the first after letting in the first 2 shots and be riding the bench the rest of the yearWho knows......maybe antropov will get hit in the face with a puck and be out for the season.A man can dream cant heGo Leafs Go
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Of course all the cynics will second guess every move by Maurice...I am pretty sure at the end of the year you will all see that Toskala should play a majority of the games...i am predicting 55-60

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Of course all the cynics will second guess every move by Maurice...I am pretty sure at the end of the year you will all see that Toskala should play a majority of the games...i am predicting 55-60
I predict the Leafs will be looking for a starting goalie before the season ends.
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Serge are you aware that Mr. Consistency Sundin is on a 20-game goal-less drought...LOLAnd yes, that was the last 20 games of last season when the Leafs were making a playoff push...WTG Mats carrying your team when it counts !

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Serge are you aware that Mr. Consistency Sundin is on a 20-game goal-less drought...LOLAnd yes, that was the last 20 games of last season when the Leafs were making a playoff push...WTG Mats carrying your team when it counts !
just wait my friend...its going to be a long year for Ottawa...VERY LONG year
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