Full House With Trips On Board

[ftwnyc 0]

This was a pretty loose 2/5 NL game. 8 People and I'm the big blind. The Villian here is on the button and is pretty TAG but has been catching some bad beats and is on semi-tilt.Villian raises the preflop to $15 and I call with pocket 6's. 2 others call. Flop comes down 4s 4c 2d. I take a stab at the pot and bets $30. One guy calls and the villain calls. Turn 4h. I bet $100. One player folds and the Villain calls. Now I'm scared. I'm thinking he has a higher pocket pair, but why wouldn't he have raised me on the flop?River 6cI was ready to check the river until that 6 hit. So I bet out $200. All the players had pretty decent stacks and the villain announces that he's all in for about $600. That would have put me all in since the Villain had me covered. Can you muck this?

[Roo6339 0]

Easy call I think. If he's TAG I doubt he'd raise with a 4 in his hand and that's the only thing you lose to. If he's got a higher pocket pair than you he's slow-played himself into a bad beat.

[ftwnyc 0]

That's what I thought at first. But then I got to thinking about the Villain and his style of play. He would never had slow played a higher pocket pair. He would have raised my turn bet 100% of the time. And when I bet out on the river, if he had, say 88 or 99, he would have just called. This is exactly how he would have played a 4. He would have called the flop to raise the turn. When the thrid 4 hit, he's definitely just calling to shove the river. $15 preflop is not a very high bet at this table. It's pretty standard. So the thought runs through my mind... Maybe A4? That's the only hand I can put him on that he would shove with on the river. But how can you not call this?

[Roo6339 0]

It's possible he has A4s. But I dunno how you could fold this. If he's tilting a bit this could be nothing more than a dumb bluff attempt with AK or something similar. I think you have to call.

[sjm20 0]

I think that A4s is reasonable, after all his play on the flop indicates both strength and a slowplay by just calling after you bet and another player calls before him.However, what hand is in his range that doesn't shove this river? Does he just call with >JJ?? I don't see how he can just call with any huge pair in this spot with you leading into him. If he has the case 4, there probably isn't much value in shoving here as you can't have much other than 66 to call. I think the AK idea makes sense too as he may have gotten a little stubborn on the flop and a little too creative on the river. Either way, there's no way I can fold here.

[mtdesmoines 3]

This was a pretty loose 2/5 NL game. 8 People and I'm the big blind. The Villian here is on the button and is pretty TAG but has been catching some bad beats and is on semi-tilt.Villian raises the preflop to $15 and I call with pocket 6's. 2 others call. Flop comes down 4s 4c 2d. I take a stab at the pot and bets $30. One guy calls and the villain calls. Turn 4h. I bet $100. One player folds and the Villain calls. Now I'm scared. I'm thinking he has a higher pocket pair, but why wouldn't he have raised me on the flop?River 6cI was ready to check the river until that 6 hit. So I bet out $200. All the players had pretty decent stacks and the villain announces that he's all in for about $600. That would have put me all in since the Villain had me covered. Can you muck this?

Villain is betting fours over KK fours over AA, and betting you don't have quads. You have the second nuts and there's no way to not instacall this.

[Roberts2003 0]

any physical tells? any strong reads? this is where live can much more informational then online. if you say he is on semi tilt, he could easily not have a 4....but at the same time he actually could. again, any physical tells?

[Temporary Nuts 1]

You have the second nuts and there's no way to not instacall this.

QFT

[Metternich 0]

You absolutely have to call here. A fold is so EV- its crazy.

[Roberts2003 0]

you don't "Have" to do anything except what you feel is the best play. again, any physical tells?

[mtdesmoines 3]

The Villian here is on the button and is pretty TAG but has been catching some bad beats and is on semi-tilt.

you don't "Have" to do anything except what you feel is the best play. again, any physical tells?

Yeah you do. If you can fold this, you "Have" to quit poker. No one can make a quads over nut boat read and make a valid fold. Villain could be holding a very high pocket pair and feel very strong, and be giving us a false read.

[biff_goods 0]

anyone feel that villain could have 22 here?

[Acid_Knight 2]

anyone feel that villain could have 22 here?

No.I think this is a fairly easy call. You beat every hand that doesn't have a 4 in it. If I read correctly, the villain also raised on the button after a lot of people had limped in. If he had a 4, it'd be like 34, 45 or A4.Actually, rereading the OP, I see ti's 8 handed, but how many people saw a flop? Was it just you two? If so, it's even more likely that he has a bigger pair here.He chooses to raise the river here enough with a slowly played big pair or middle pair like 99 often enough for you to show a profit calling this.

[mtdesmoines 3]

He chooses to raise the river here enough with a slowly played big pair or middle pair like 99 often enough for you to show a profit calling this.

Hero will be insanely profitable over time calling these bets.

[KoRnholio 2]

With 4 (I think) people seeing a flop, I would have trouble mucking this in Omaha. Insta-call in hold'em. He has a high pp or bluff here so much more often than a hand like A4.

[Pot Odds RAC 23]

Villain is betting fours over KK fours over AA, and betting you don't have quads. You have the second nuts and there's no way to not instacall this.

Agreed.Instacall & reload if you're coolered.

[ftwnyc 0]

As far as physical tells, the villain here is pretty solid. I couldn't pick up anything that would have given him away. However, the way he played the hand screamed 4. I pretty much know that I can't fold this here, but is there any point in this hand where I played it wrong?

[No_Neck 0]

As far as physical tells, the villain here is pretty solid. I couldn't pick up anything that would have given him away. However, the way he played the hand screamed 4. I pretty much know that I can't fold this here, but is there any point in this hand where I played it wrong?

as long as you called the river you played it perfect.