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PokerStars Game #12006571197: Hold'em No Limit ($100/$200) - 2007/09/11 - 21:12:16 (ET)Table 'Frisia' 9-max Seat #5 is the buttonSeat 5: KidPoker ($24792 in chips) Seat 8: H@££INGGOL ($20100 in chips) Seat 9: nestegg1 ($20000 in chips) H@££INGGOL: posts small blind $100nestegg1: posts big blind $200*** HOLE CARDS ***KidPoker: raises $400 to $600H@££INGGOL: raises $1800 to $2400nestegg1: folds KidPoker: calls $1800*** FLOP *** [2c 5h 6c]H@££INGGOL: checks KidPoker: checks *** TURN *** [2c 5h 6c] [4d]H@££INGGOL: checks KidPoker: checks *** RIVER *** [2c 5h 6c 4d] [Ac]H@££INGGOL: bets $2800KidPoker: calls $2800*** SHOW DOWN ***H@££INGGOL: shows [Td 7d] (high card Ace)KidPoker: shows [Jh Ad] (a pair of Aces)KidPoker collected $10598 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $10600 | Rake $2 Board [2c 5h 6c 4d Ac]Seat 5: KidPoker (button) showed [Jh Ad] and won ($10598) with a pair of AcesSeat 8: H@££INGGOL (small blind) showed [Td 7d] and lost with high card AceSeat 9: nestegg1 (big blind) folded before Flop

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wow A5DN said A9 afterSeat 5: KidPoker ($27788 in chips) Seat 8: H@££INGGOL ($22698 in chips) Seat 9: nestegg1 ($19500 in chips) nestegg1: posts small blind $100KidPoker: posts big blind $200*** HOLE CARDS ***H@££INGGOL: folds nestegg1: calls $100KidPoker: raises $400 to $600nestegg1: calls $400*** FLOP *** [8d 3s 9h]nestegg1: checks KidPoker: bets $600nestegg1: raises $1600 to $2200KidPoker: calls $1600*** TURN *** [8d 3s 9h] [Qd]nestegg1: bets $4000KidPoker said, "wow"KidPoker: folds nestegg1 collected $5598 from potnestegg1: shows [5s Ad] (high card Ace)*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $5600 | Rake $2 Board [8d 3s 9h Qd]Seat 5: KidPoker (big blind) folded on the TurnSeat 8: H@££INGGOL (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: nestegg1 (small blind) collected ($5598)

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weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeePokerStars Game #12007336105: Hold'em No Limit ($100/$200) - 2007/09/11 - 21:52:49 (ET)Table 'Frisia' 9-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 2: idoubleL ($4495 in chips) Seat 3: kerpowski ($4350 in chips) Seat 5: KidPoker ($27369 in chips) Seat 6: ktrieu ($27876 in chips) Seat 7: MezmerizePLZ ($24285 in chips) Seat 9: nestegg1 ($23230 in chips) MezmerizePLZ: posts small blind $100nestegg1: posts big blind $200*** HOLE CARDS ***idoubleL: folds kerpowski: folds KidPoker: raises $400 to $600ktrieu: folds MezmerizePLZ: raises $1624 to $2224nestegg1: folds idoubleL said, "nestegg i admire your prudence"KidPoker: calls $1624*** FLOP *** [7s Qs 2s]idoubleL said, "takes discipline to know when youre outclassed and to save face and stop talking"MezmerizePLZ: bets $3200KidPoker: raises $6000 to $9200idoubleL said, "you good at practicing avoidance"MezmerizePLZ: raises $12861 to $22061 and is all-inKidPoker: calls $12861*** TURN *** [7s Qs 2s] [4h]*** RIVER *** [7s Qs 2s 4h] [9d]*** SHOW DOWN ***MezmerizePLZ: shows [As Qd] (a pair of Queens)KidPoker: shows [Ts Js] (a flush, Queen high)KidPoker collected $48765 from potKidPoker said, "cooler"*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $48770 | Rake $5 Board [7s Qs 2s 4h 9d]Seat 2: idoubleL folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: kerpowski folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: KidPoker showed [Ts Js] and won ($48765) with a flush, Queen highSeat 6: ktrieu (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: MezmerizePLZ (small blind) showed [As Qd] and lost with a pair of QueensSeat 9: nestegg1 (big blind) folded before Flop

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PokerStars Game #12007336105: Hold'em No Limit ($100/$200) - 2007/09/11 - 21:52:49 (ET)Table 'Frisia' 9-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 2: idoubleL ($4495 in chips) Seat 3: kerpowski ($4350 in chips) Seat 5: KidPoker ($27369 in chips) Seat 6: ktrieu ($27876 in chips) Seat 7: MezmerizePLZ ($24285 in chips) Seat 9: nestegg1 ($23230 in chips) MezmerizePLZ: posts small blind $100nestegg1: posts big blind $200*** HOLE CARDS ***idoubleL: folds kerpowski: folds KidPoker: raises $400 to $600ktrieu: folds MezmerizePLZ: raises $1624 to $2224nestegg1: folds idoubleL said, "nestegg i admire your prudence"KidPoker: calls $1624*** FLOP *** [7s Qs 2s]idoubleL said, "takes discipline to know when youre outclassed and to save face and stop talking"MezmerizePLZ: bets $3200KidPoker: raises $6000 to $9200idoubleL said, "you good at practicing avoidance"MezmerizePLZ: raises $12861 to $22061 and is all-inKidPoker: calls $12861*** TURN *** [7s Qs 2s] [4h]*** RIVER *** [7s Qs 2s 4h] [9d]*** SHOW DOWN ***MezmerizePLZ: shows [As Qd] (a pair of Queens)KidPoker: shows [Ts Js] (a flush, Queen high)KidPoker collected $48765 from potKidPoker said, "cooler"*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $48770 | Rake $5 Board [7s Qs 2s 4h 9d]Seat 2: idoubleL folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: kerpowski folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: KidPoker showed [Ts Js] and won ($48765) with a flush, Queen highSeat 6: ktrieu (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: MezmerizePLZ (small blind) showed [As Qd] and lost with a pair of QueensSeat 9: nestegg1 (big blind) folded before FlopSHIP IT!!!

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General comment: Completely disagree with online poker not being a feel game or online players not understanding the psychology of poker, especially in a game like heads up NLHE. Top players have a great feel for the flow of the game (and even a hand) and their opponent's mood and are constantly adjusting their play to take advantage of it. I'm sure that most of us have seen the HH's of incredible reads made by the top online players and had that "how is that even possible?" feeling. They aren't just getting lucky.IMO live players have had a relatively tough time switching to the online game while online players have found the transition to live games relatively easy. Some people attribute this to online players having mroe experience and just generally being "better" players due to playing in tougher games, etc., but they're missing an important aspect. As we all know transitioning from online play to live play you gain information, and vice versa. An online player is still able to take into account the psychology of his opponent based solely on the action in previous hands, he doesn't need to see him to do this. When he sits in a live game he may not be able to take complete advantage of the extra information, but he doesn't lose anything that makes him great. On the other hand, a live player who excels on at gleaning information from his opponent based on physical cues is all of a sudden at a loss in an online setting. Daniel said in an earlier post that playing online you need to make more informational type bets and put more money in on the flop in order to make better decisions later on in the hand. It makes sense that he would feel this way but that doesn't mean it's the optimal way to play
great post (im just catching up)I agree 100% I'm a "live player" and I have had and still do have some difficulty with the transition that is why I excel and play mostly sngs and MTTs because I believe the transition is less drastic....I would much rather take 1K to FW then deposit 1K online thats for sure
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He's sitting with almost 48k. Did he deposit more than 200?
I have no clue how much he deposited. I just know he has a little extra after winning the High Stakes Showdown a week ago.
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This is one thing I disagree with you about...I'm not sure if "surviving" is the way he should be playing though...I know he's your freind and all but he's absolutely terrible in any deepstack tourney with good players, he's the best vs donkeys and with bad structures, in fact I'd be willing to bet that if he played online tourneys seriously for 5 months he'd be ranked in the top 10, yet I'd be surprised if he's +ev in any WPT event. Maybe my opinion is biased because I think Phil is the biggest prick in poker, but I would rather stake Raymond Davis in WPT's than Hellmuth.
Did you have a bad experience with Hellmuth?
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Does he play many WPT events? (I really dont know if he does) He's the best NL hold em player out there, just because he hasn't placed / performed well in a certain circuit doesn't mean there are better players. How many big names have multiple Final tables on the WPT?? I know Phil has made at least one final table, I think it was in the first season. Its not like making the final table is a common thing so basing his skill level on WPT performances isn't really a good example.So if you're going by results, then you wouldn't hesitate to stake phil in any WSOP NLHE event right?
I stopped reading after the bold part...I could list 100 players that are better than him at NL hold'em, if not 500....
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