solderz 0 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 6000 years old....lol......lol........... Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 I fail to see the issue here. There's no issue. Link to post Share on other sites
ice4804 0 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 lol. apes are still here, and theres thousands of missing links that should exist between man and monkeys that are nowhere to be found. Believing that in a field of "science" is...i dont even have to say it. Everyone knows its ridiculous. The whole theory completely falls apart just on this fact.I'll tell you what's ridiculous...it's ridiculous how wrong this is. How can you say that? There is a mountain of evidence, all of which unambiguously supports evolution. Of course the authors of AIG aren't going to present this because it would totally discredit them (as if they haven't been already). If anything is a smokescreen, it is the fiction presented in AIG.Do you go through life with blinders on? Do you bother to read about anything that isn't hand fed to you by these nutjobs trying to take your money?hmmm, been reading some stuff and found that even though dinosaurs supposedly died out 65 million years before man, there are several occasions of cave paintings of "dinosaurs" (word not invented till the 1800s) There are many ancient tails of "dragons" through many cultures...Even dragons mentioned in the bible... just an interesting thought which absolutely proves that dinosaurs didnt die out 65 million years ago I don't even know where to begin on this little gem. Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Assuming this is a cave drawing, what does it depict? Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 lol. apes are still here, and theres thousands of missing links that should exist between man and monkeys that are nowhere to be found.Actually you have no understanding of how evolution works if you think man evolved directly from monkeys. Link to post Share on other sites
crowTrobot 2 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Assuming this is a cave drawing, what does it depict?a close up of a vagina? Link to post Share on other sites
renaedawn 1 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Assuming this is a cave drawing, what does it depict?Looks like a penis with a herpes sore to me. Is that in the Bible? Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Looks like a penis with a herpes sore to me. Is that in the Bible?Probably. I hear that Jesus fellow got around quite a bit. Link to post Share on other sites
Loismustdie 0 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Probably. I hear that Jesus fellow got around quite a bit. How is that funny? The picture-funny. The fact that it looked like a vagina-funny. Your statement? Nowhere in the realm of funny. If funny was a deadly disease, you would be in the clear, with the rest of the unfunny folk. Link to post Share on other sites
donk4life 34 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 I chuckled...I guess you really can't poke fun at Jesus Christ.. Link to post Share on other sites
Loismustdie 0 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 I chuckled...I guess you really can't poke fun at Jesus Christ.. I wouldn't say that. Just be clever about it. Christ liked to sleep around isn't clever, it's stupid. Now, this is clever.. I laughed my butt off and of course felt terrible, because it's totally wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Does anybody else see a coke bottle on the right? The coke is bubbly like someone shook it. The bottle is on it's side, with the coke spilling out. Link to post Share on other sites
Petoria 0 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 I wouldn't say that. Just be clever about it. Christ liked to sleep around isn't clever, it's stupid.I thought it was funny too. Not because the statement itself was funny, but because the author of it knew it would illicit this response, probably could've predicted to about 80% accuracy that it would be by this exact user. So for simply that reason, I chuckled.also,Its obvious that evolution is just a smoke screen people throw up to try and hide behind. And yes it is mainstream "belief". and yes, the Christianity is not, and thats exactly how the bible says it will remain to the end of days.Christianity isn't mainstream? ARE YOU ****ING INSANE?My problem with it is that it's too mainstream. I'm more befuddled by this than Hugh Grant was when he got caught getting a BJ from a hooker in his car (insert possible Family Guy moment) Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 http://www.genesispark.org/genpark/ancient/ancient.htmThe cave painting depicts a mammoth and a dinosaur fighting according to a Dr. Jack Cuozzo.Oh, there's also a sailboat. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 http://www.genesispark.org/genpark/ancient/ancient.htmThe cave painting depicts a mammoth and a dinosaur fighting according to a Dr. Jack Cuozzo.Oh, there's also a sailboat.Good link Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Good linkThe Egyptian stuff was more convincing. I'd like to see some theories on those. Link to post Share on other sites
addaminsane 0 Posted September 9, 2007 Author Share Posted September 9, 2007 thanks for those links. very interesting stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,355 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 http://www.genesispark.org/genpark/ancient/ancient.htmThe cave painting depicts a mammoth and a dinosaur fighting according to a Dr. Jack Cuozzo.Oh, there's also a schooner.FYP Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,759 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Current theory...approx 14 billion yearsI'm being sucked back in to these forums:It's strange that the current scientists think that the Earth is 14 billion years old. When I was in school the current guess was 2-3 billion. What's wrong with these scientists?OP:I totally disagree that the majority of Christians think that the Earth is 6,000 years old. I would guess 15% max. Link to post Share on other sites
donk4life 34 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I'm being sucked back in to these forums:It's strange that the current scientists think that the Earth is 14 billion years old. When I was in school the current guess was 2-3 billion. What's wrong with these scientists?Wait...I'm still in school, and the last I heard the earth is supposedly 4 bil years old? And the Universe is 14 billion?Maybe I need to pay attention better Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I'm being sucked back in to these forums:It's strange that the current scientists think that the Earth is 14 billion years old. When I was in school the current guess was 2-3 billion. What's wrong with these scientists?OP:I totally disagree that the majority of Christians think that the Earth is 6,000 years old. I would guess 15% max.When I was in school, Pluto was a planet. Link to post Share on other sites
crowTrobot 2 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 It's strange that the current scientists think that the Earth is 14 billion years old. When I was in school the current guess was 2-3 billion. What's wrong with these scientists?the poster who made the 14 billion comment was talking about the "stuff" (elementary particles) the earth is composed of - because the universe is thought to be approx. 14 billion years old. the earth itself solidified 4.55 billion years ago - that's pinned down pretty well by multiple corroborating methods.I totally disagree that the majority of Christians think that the Earth is 6,000 years old. I would guess 15% max.it's significantly higher than 15%:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17879317/site/newsweek/ Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,759 Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 the poster who made the 14 billion comment was talking about the "stuff" (elementary particles) the earth is composed of - because the universe is thought to be approx. 14 billion years old. the earth itself solidified 4.55 billion years ago - that's pinned down pretty well by multiple corroborating methods.it's significantly higher than 15%:Is it funny to you that you say this like you know it's true.... because it's funny to me. I would love to bet you $1000 that that number will change in 10 years... but there is no way I'll still be coming to this site. I'll just take the moral victory... since we both know that the only think pinned down is the fact that in 10 years it won't still be 4.55B years, but somehow a zero or two will be mysteriously added to the number.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17879317/site/newsweek/This article asked 10,000 years or earlier, not 6,000. That's a big difference. (Almost twice as much.. fyi) Link to post Share on other sites
crowTrobot 2 Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Is it funny to you that you say this like you know it's true.... because it's funny to me. I would love to bet you $1000 that that number will change in 10 years... but there is no way I'll still be coming to this site. I'll just take the moral victory... since we both know that the only think pinned down is the fact that in 10 years it won't still be 4.55B years, but somehow a zero or two will be mysteriously added to the number.you apparently aren't aware of how rigorous science is these days in self-checking its claims. a slight adjustment is to be expected, but there's literally zero room for something like the 1000% or 10000% error you expect. it aint gonna happen - lay me 5% change in the number and i'll be happy to take that bet : )This article asked 10,000 years or earlier, not 6,000. That's a big difference. (Almost twice as much.. fyi)and 4.5 billion years is 750000 times as much lol. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,759 Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Dear Editor,The publication of ‘The Alleged Fallacies of Evolutionary Theory’ by Massimo Pigliucci and others in Issue 46 of Philosophy Now provides a convenient occasion for pointing out the limits of the negative theological implications of Darwin’s Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection. In the fourteenth and final chapter of The Origin of Species Darwin himself – apart from noticing certain short (a mere handful of million years long) geological periods in which the fossil record reveals the occurrence of inexplicably rapid evolution – wrote: “Analogy would lead me one step further, namely to the belief that all animals and plants have descended from one prototype.... Therefore I should infer from analogy that probably all the organic beings that have lived on the earth have descended from some one primordial form, into which life was first breathed.”Probably Darwin himself believed that life was miraculously breathed into that primordial form of not always consistently reproducing life by God, though not the revealed God of then contemporary Christianity, who had predestined so many of Darwin’s friends and family to an eternity of extreme torture.But the evidential situation of natural (as opposed to revealed) theology has been transformed in the more than fifty years since Watson and Crick won the Nobel Prize for their discovery of the double helix structure of DNA. It has become inordinately difficult even to begin to think about constructing a naturalistic theory of the evolution of that first reproducing organism.I will here confine myself to recommending two books by individuals who started as believers in two different revealed religions. The author of the first started as, and remains, a Protestant Christian. The author of the second started as, and remains, an Orthodox Jew. The first book is Roy Abraham Varghese’s The Wonderful World: A Journey from Modern Science to the Mind of God (Fountain Hills, Arizona;Tyr Publishing 2003). The second book is Gerald L Schroeder’s The Hidden Face of God: Science Reveals the Ultimate Truth (Touchstone; New York 2001)Anyone who should happen to want to know what I myself now believe will have to wait until the publication, promised for early 2005, by Prometheus of Amherst, NY of the final edition of my God and Philosophy with a new introduction of it as ‘an historical relic’. That book was a study of the arguments for Christian theism, first published in 1966 in various editions in both hardcover andpaperback in both the USA and the UK. My own commitment then as a philosopher who was also areligious unbeliever was and remains that of Plato’s Socrates: “We must follow the argument wherever it leads.”Yours,Antony Flew Link to post Share on other sites
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