Awkward Spot...what's The Best Line?

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edit: FTR is down...will replace the hand when it begins working...for now:Full Tilt Poker Game #3424191809: Table Village Center - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:00:06 ET - 2007/08/31Seat 1: drnutty ($46.10), is sitting outSeat 3: Snuggleliscious ($100.85)Seat 4: MIKIAN ($133.35)Seat 5: all in 25000 ($44.20)Seat 6: WAREAGLE1234 ($101.50)Seat 7: Fourcard31 ($53.55)Seat 8: bench200kg ($145.05)Seat 9: 1 Last Stand ($253.80)Snuggleliscious posts the small blind of $0.50MIKIAN posts the big blind of $1The button is in seat #2*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to 1 Last Stand [5c 5d]JHarr1219 sits downJHarr1219 adds $100all in 25000 has 15 seconds left to actall in 25000 raises to $3WAREAGLE1234 foldsFourcard31 foldsbench200kg folds1 Last Stand calls $3Snuggleliscious foldsMIKIAN calls $2*** FLOP *** [5h 7d 6s]MIKIAN has 15 seconds left to actMIKIAN bets $7all in 25000 has 15 seconds left to actall in 25000 has requested TIMEall in 25000 raises to $141 Last Stand raises to $21MIKIAN calls $14all in 25000 raises to $41.20, and is all in1 Last Stand calls $20.20MIKIAN has 15 seconds left to actMIKIAN calls $20.20*** TURN *** [5h 7d 6s] [Jd]MIKIAN has 15 seconds left to actMIKIAN checks1 Last Stand checks*** RIVER *** [5h 7d 6s Jd] [8d]MIKIAN has 15 seconds left to actMIKIAN checks1 Last Stand checks*** SHOW DOWN ***Let me know your thoughts on all streets. I honestly was not liking my situation at all. I'll share my thoughts about what I was thinking and what I did wrong as well as the results after I get some feedback. FYI, I've been very active and have almost more than double anyone else at the table.Thx

[tskillz187 0]

Don't check bottom set on turn.(I'll write more later)Edit: The flop minraise is awful too, it's hard to see without being converted. If you look at the sticky at the top of NL forums zach has posted a converter. Then it's easier to follow the hand.

[shynepo3 0]

I'm confused.....how much money do you have and who are you in the hand?

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sorry, I mistakenly chose hide identity on FTR and posted initially. Now it is returning some errors so i put the FTP HH.

[tskillz187 0]

It looks like you got scared of Mikian being huge? I think his likeliest hands are 67, 78ish somewhere in that range. The short could have a whole bunch of stuff and he's so short it really doesn't matter.You need to try and extract some value against the other big stack here, I'd bet the turn and bet the river, it's not likely he has a 4 or 9 in his hand. Plus I'd reraise to a real amount on the flop.

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It looks like you got scared of Mikian being huge? I think his likeliest hands are 67, 78ish somewhere in that range. The short could have a whole bunch of stuff and he's so short it really doesn't matter.You need to try and extract some value against the other big stack here, I'd bet the turn and bet the river, it's not likely he has a 4 or 9 in his hand. Plus I'd reraise to a real amount on the flop.

You are correct sir. I was fearful of Mikian. I wasn't worried at all about the SS and was trying to isolate him. The table had been pretty weak tight so i felt that putting in a second bet would help define Mikian's hand. I didn't expect a call. I thought he'd raise (where i'd likely have to fold) or fold.As it played out, I was happy to check it down, but I regret not betting a bit more on the flop. 89 was my initial fear out of Mikian, but as he never showed aggression and having played otb, I also put 66 and 77 in his range.What do you think Mikian had?

[tskillz187 0]

What do you think Mikian had?

46, 47, 68, 78, 88

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Here's the showdown. I suppose a value bet on the river was certainly in order, but any raise from Mikian would be tough to guage.*** SHOW DOWN ***all in 25000 shows [Ad As] a pair of Aces1 Last Stand shows [5c 5d] three of a kind, FivesMIKIAN mucks1 Last Stand wins the pot ($130.10) with three of a kind, Fivesall in 25000 is sitting out*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $133.10 | Rake $3Board: [5h 7d 6s Jd 8d]Seat 1: drnutty is sitting outSeat 3: Snuggleliscious (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 4: MIKIAN (big blind) mucked [Tc Td] - a pair of TensSeat 5: all in 25000 showed [Ad As] and lost with a pair of AcesSeat 6: WAREAGLE1234 didn't bet (folded)Seat 7: Fourcard31 didn't bet (folded)Seat 8: bench200kg didn't bet (folded)Seat 9: 1 Last Stand showed [5c 5d] and won ($130.10) with three of a kind, FivesMikian mucked TT

[whatgreatis 0]

Here's the showdown. I suppose a value bet on the river was certainly in order, but any raise from Mikian would be tough to guage.*** SHOW DOWN ***all in 25000 shows [Ad As] a pair of Aces1 Last Stand shows [5c 5d] three of a kind, FivesMIKIAN mucks1 Last Stand wins the pot ($130.10) with three of a kind, Fivesall in 25000 is sitting out*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $133.10 | Rake $3Board: [5h 7d 6s Jd 8d]Seat 1: drnutty is sitting outSeat 3: Snuggleliscious (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 4: MIKIAN (big blind) mucked [Tc Td] - a pair of TensSeat 5: all in 25000 showed [Ad As] and lost with a pair of AcesSeat 6: WAREAGLE1234 didn't bet (folded)Seat 7: Fourcard31 didn't bet (folded)Seat 8: bench200kg didn't bet (folded)Seat 9: 1 Last Stand showed [5c 5d] and won ($130.10) with three of a kind, FivesMikian mucked TT

Those hands are pretty much what I thought although Mikian could have flopped two pair or a pair with a straight draw. I would have raised huge on the flop to protect my hand and get people with an over pair committed. I'm not sure what your flop raise wanted to do? You didn't raise enough to gain a lot of information and you gave a person with a hand like pair with a straight draw good odds. The turn and river should have been bet because it was pretty obvious you had the best hand. I don't see someone with a straight/higher set checking the turn and for sure not the river. You missed a lot of value out of this hand.

[sabes99 0]

NEVER minraise this flop, with the drawing possibilities you want to get a lot of money in thereas played, make about a pot-sized bet on the turnyou can't really bet the river once that card comes

[NoBBiR 0]

Minraising the flop was stupid. Not betting the turn was too. On the river, I think I'm always checking it down since he's probably never calling a bet with anything you beat.

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Thanks guys, I guess I lost a ton of value here. I really didn't think my hand was good until the river, but evidently I misread the situation pretty badly. I'm just getting back to playing a bit of cash games so I'll likely have some more hands that I'll misplay and share.What sucks is I lost a $250 pot a few hands later with AA < KK AIPF to this nitbag playing 9 tables. Wish I got paid off more in the first hand now...oh well. Lesson learned.Thanks again.