hblask 1 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 So this country had a revolution a couple hundred years ago based on the notion that the people who run the government are not special, and deserve no special rights not available to the average citizen. This was a Good Thing.Yesterday, one of the three major east-west routes in town was closed for an hour because King W wanted to use it. Hundreds of thousands of people sat stuck in traffic for an hour because of one person's desire to raise money for an election. It wasn't even government business -- it was a private fundraiser!Down with the imperial presidency! Down with politicians who make themselves above the law!/rantAnd to answer your question, yes, I think politicians should have to sit in the traffic jam with the rest of us. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 ...I had something but I lost it. Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey Ravioli 0 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 And since you think they should sit in traffic like everyone else, how exactly is the country supposed to provide security for him while he is sitting in traffic? And who should pay for the complicated task?Regardless of what you think of the man who is currently holding the office, its still the President of the United States. Arguable the most powerful man in the world. He is entitled to security. If that means closing a road to the general public, oh well.Besides, don't you know by know that rich people are just plain better then you? Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 What is wrong with Royal Tour? He ain't not done no nothing to you, suh! Link to post Share on other sites
juggalo41729 0 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Why make this a security issue? Who would wanna kill Bush? Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 And since you think they should sit in traffic like everyone else, how exactly is the country supposed to provide security for him while he is sitting in traffic? And who should pay for the complicated task?Regardless of what you think of the man who is currently holding the office, its still the President of the United States. Arguable the most powerful man in the world. He is entitled to security. If that means closing a road to the general public, oh well.Besides, don't you know by know that rich people are just plain better then you?If he doesn't want to sit in traffic, he can do what the rest of us do, and drive during off hours. That freeway is relatively wide open at 2AM. Or perhaps he could find some other way to manage his personal, non-official business through means that doesn't require him to inconvenience the people who pay his salary. Maybe he could have them come to him, maybe rent a room at the airport? Or he could get a private helicopter at the airport and fly to visit his rich pals? There are dozens of solutions that don't involve closing a major road during rush hour. Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyJoJo 20 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Why make this a security issue? Who would wanna kill Bush?Hey, I just had an idea. What if it wasn't illegal to kill the President? Then anybody could just kill him if they didn't think he was doing a good job and maybe at first the vice-presidents would be the first to do the murdering so they could become President but then they'd realize (sadly, too late) that now they are the target and soon nobody would want to be President, but then Arnold Schwarzenegger would step up and say, "I am your President now," (there wouldn't be an election or anything, he would just take it) and people would be like, "Don't do it, you'll be killed for sure," but Arnold would just say, "We will see," and he'd say it in his Terminator voice, but there would still be attempts made until he went into Commando mode and caught the first guy and right before Arnold killed the would-be assassin, he would say, "Your assassination attempt has been.....vetoed." Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 Hey, I just had an idea. What if it wasn't illegal to kill the President? Then anybody could just kill him if they didn't think he was doing a good job and maybe at first the vice-presidents would be the first to do the murdering so they could become President but then they'd realize (sadly, too late) that now they are the target and soon nobody would want to be President, but then Arnold Schwarzenegger would step up and say, "I am your President now," (there wouldn't be an election or anything, he would just take it) and people would be like, "Don't do it, you'll be killed for sure," but Arnold would just say, "We will see," and he'd say it in his Terminator voice, but there would still be attempts made until he went into Commando mode and caught the first guy and right before Arnold killed the would-be assassin, he would say, "Your assassination attempt has been.....vetoed." In my wildest dreams, this thread didn't get a response like this. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 If he doesn't want to sit in traffic, he can do what the rest of us do, and drive during off hours. That freeway is relatively wide open at 2AM. Or perhaps he could find some other way to manage his personal, non-official business through means that doesn't require him to inconvenience the people who pay his salary. Maybe he could have them come to him, maybe rent a room at the airport? Or he could get a private helicopter at the airport and fly to visit his rich pals? There are dozens of solutions that don't involve closing a major road during rush hour....It's slowly coming back to me... Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 16 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 so redic.one time clinton held up LAX for hours while he was getting a muther fucking haircut.i blame everyone ever born. Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings7 0 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I had at least 5 different emotions during this thread. The last left me annoyed. He's the damn president. Maybe, instead of being jealous that a high ranking official gets perks that you don't, consider going to college, getting a degree, and trying to make as big a difference in the world as high ranking politicians do. MOST politicians such as presidents, senators, and other officials have worked their asses off to get where they are, and in doing so, have earned enough fame and recognition as to where you need to make special accomodations for them. Deal. Link to post Share on other sites
donk4life 34 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I once held up traffic because I didn't get my toy at K-Mart.. I ran out into the street crying and saying I hate my mom, that was 2 weeks ago I think.. Link to post Share on other sites
Miguel McHarris 0 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Yeah, traffic sucks. What really sucks is breaking down in traffic, specifically the capital beltway on a weekend. Anyways, he attended my sisters college graduation this year and it took a solid 2 hours of passing through security check points to get in. Some people are craaaaaaaaazy. Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 I had at least 5 different emotions during this thread. The last left me annoyed. He's the damn president. Maybe, instead of being jealous that a high ranking official gets perks that you don't, consider going to college, getting a degree, and trying to make as big a difference in the world as high ranking politicians do. MOST politicians such as presidents, senators, and other officials have worked their asses off to get where they are, and in doing so, have earned enough fame and recognition as to where you need to make special accomodations for them. Deal.LOL, I have a college degree, and have accomplished much more in my life than the combined efforts of the president and every member of Congress. Unless, of course, you consider "sucking at the public teat" an accomplishment. Then no, I haven't done that to the extent they have. I'm not jealous that he gets perks, I'm annoyed that he feels he is above the rules of decorum that the rest of society have learned to live by. Link to post Share on other sites
SAM_Hard8 50 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 LOL, I have a college degree, and have accomplished much more in my life than the combined efforts of the president and every member of Congress. Unless, of course, you consider "sucking at the public teat" an accomplishment. Then no, I haven't done that to the extent they have. I'm not jealous that he gets perks, I'm annoyed that he feels he is above the rules of decorum that the rest of society have learned to live by.Then kill yourself. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 so redic.one time clinton held up LAX for hours while he was fucking a muther while getting a haircut.i blame everyone ever born.FYP, suh. Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 Then kill yourself.I can't tell if this response was supposed to be funny, angry, mean, facetious, or just an especially eloquent Bush II lover. Link to post Share on other sites
SAM_Hard8 50 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I can't tell if this response was supposed to be funny, angry, mean, facetious, or just an especially eloquent Bush II lover.all of the above. Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyJoJo 20 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 From Tuesday Morning Quarterback:Recently, the Congressional Research Service announced the federal subsidies requested for the coming fiscal year by ex-presidents Jimmy Carter, George Herbert Walker Bush and Bill Clinton. Globe-trotting Carter asked for only $2,000 for travel; Bush and Clinton, both millionaires, wanted $50,000 from taxpayers for travel. Bush said he needed $69,000 for "equipment" and $13,000 for postage. Is Bush planning to mail 32,000 thank-you notes next year? What's really offensive is that all three filed for the maximum presidential retirement payment of $191,000 annually. All these guys are wealthy, the elder George Bush having significant inherited wealth, yet all want taxpayers to hand them pensions seven times higher than the typical Social Security sum. This is extra galling because Carter and Clinton aren't even retired! Carter continues to write books that sell well; Clinton is active on the corporate speaking circuit, having earned an estimated $10 million speechifying in 2006. Clinton prattles on and on about the horrors of inequality, yet demands $191,000 in bonuses from taxpayers whose median household income is about 1/20th of his estimated $10 million. Why didn't the three ex-presidents request no pension at all? That would have been the dignified thing to do. To top it off, Clinton requested $79,000 for telephone service. It is impossible, physically impossible, to spend $79,000 on telephones! If Clinton had a 10-cents-a-minute long-distance plan, he could talk long-distance 24 hours a day, 365 days per year -- and you can imagine Clinton doing this -- yet fail to burn through $79,000. The most expensive package offered by Verizon Wireless is an international super-phone with unlimited texting and four hours of talk time daily; this sells for about $3,000 per year. Clinton could purchase two dozen of the most expensive cell accounts available in the United States for the tax-subsidized telephone budget he requested. Is Clinton's $79,000 phone request fraud, or is Clinton planning to use the money to buy phones for staffers working on his private speaking business? An ex-president who had financial problems might legitimately turn to the taxpayer. For all three living ex-presidents to be quite wealthy yet demanding public subsidies is shameful -- to say nothing of a failure of leadership. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 LOL, I have a college degree, and have accomplished much more in my life than the combined efforts of the president and every member of Congress. Unless, of course, you consider "sucking at the public teat" an accomplishment. Then no, I haven't done that to the extent they have. I'm not jealous that he gets perks, I'm annoyed that he feels he is above the rules of decorum that the rest of society have learned to live by.Society for the most part understands that high ranking officials do such things for safety reasons regardless of where they are goin and why. I hate Bush as much as anyone around but I fully understand why such a thing happens. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 The fact that Congress consistently gave themselves pay raises while letting the minimum wage stay at $5.25 or whatever enrages me.In fact I just looked it up, and they gave themselves a pay raise in 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001, 2000, 1998.Congressional Pay Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey Ravioli 0 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Bill Clinton had Vince Foster killed and you are bitching about a traffic jam.What good is having power if you can't use it to piss on the little people.He's the freakin President, you tool. He makes decisions that affect the lives of millions on an hourly basis. His time is more important then yours regardless of how you feel about the job he's doing! Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 Bill Clinton had Vince Foster killed and you are bitching about a traffic jam.What good is having power if you can't use it to piss on the little people.He's the freakin President, you tool. He makes decisions that affect the lives of millions on an hourly basis. His time is more important then yours regardless of how you feel about the job he's doing!His time was being spent to go to a private fundraiser, it had nothing to do with the job he is being paid to do. And no, his time is not more important than mine. His job is, but not his time. We all have, on average, the same number of hours on earth. Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey Ravioli 0 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 His time was being spent to go to a private fundraiser, it had nothing to do with the job he is being paid to do. And no, his time is not more important than mine. His job is, but not his time. We all have, on average, the same number of hours on earth.You keep telling yourself that your time is just as important as the Presidents. Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 You keep telling yourself that your time is just as important as the Presidents.On that particular night, I was on my way home to see my kids. He was on his way to a fundraiser to help perpetuate the parasitic class of politicians. So on that particular night, my time was not as important as his, my time was WAY WAY MORE important. Link to post Share on other sites
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