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[tskillz187 0]

but I'm a position nut. I never mind being in marginal or tough spots as long as I'm in position, so I'll take way more risks there. OOP though I clam up and just fold way too much IMO, but eh it's a leak I've always tried to repairtskillz for free coaching ?

I play position insane too, I don't think it's a leak. I'm flexible, when I'm winning a lot I play more OOP and 3bet more out of blinds as a bluff, because I'm confident I'm playing well and want to take advantage of me playing well. When I'm losing I tighten the ship and become a complete rock, I think at my skill level it doesn't fluctuate too much in EV either way, I don't play enough marginal hands poorly or good enough to swing it too much. But I think if it were to lean one way it would be poorly if I'm tilting and spewing too much pf with suited connectors OOP and shit. That happens sometimes ;)Also, dunno what you meant by free coaching? I don't coach anyone cuz I don't have the time and I'm not that good. But I'd obv sweat you if you wanted me to just to see if I saw anything bad going on or to hear your thought process.

[trystero 0]

nah, I just mean you're a solid winner and I could probably learn a lot from you if I came back to try and move up from 50nlabout your stats - the 3bet % seems a bit low for your stakes, and your steal% seems a bit high. How do you adjust against the blinds who are undoubtedly 3-betting you more as you steal that frequently?

[JaoTi 0]

Hey guys, this is babylondonks. I ****ed up FCP when I installed keepass so now I have nfi what my password is to that account, lol. This is some old one I made when I was 14 or something lol.

Your stats look really good. I'd warn against cbetting at 77%, especially because I'm assuming you're not usually heads up at micros. My cbet is reallllllllly low at like 50% but I think most are around 65-70%.

That's what I thought too, but I learnt that Snamuh has a cbet >80%, kinda blew my mind. Mine is slightly over 50% too.

hmm you may need to gain some positional awarenessSmall sample admittedly but your VPIP is relatively static save UTG. You should probably play more hands OTB relative to your other positions. The SB definitely looks too highbut it's probably a sample size thing. log 20k hands and your button should skyrocket. it's not as if you're being passive...your aggression stats indicate that you're coming in raising and betting. overall stats look fine imoI lost my PT2 subscription (assholes) but my overall stats were like 18/16: in other words, a pretty big nit. but my button was like 29/24. during my 2nl prop bet it was well over 30 because competition at those super low stakes is so tremendously weak; tons of limping, check/folding, and not much aggression in general. if you're at 2nl, which I think you are (or 5nl), you should imo look to play more hands OTB.but I'm a position nut. I never mind being in marginal or tough spots as long as I'm in position, so I'll take way more risks there. OOP though I clam up and just fold way too much IMO, but eh it's a leak I've always tried to repairtskillz for free coaching ?

I think not playing OOP is really underrated and really helps. Like you can use Tim for teaching OOP play anyway If you play again (?) I think you should ramp your button raise % to at least 30% regularly with those stats, and probably closer to 35%.

nah, I just mean you're a solid winner and I could probably learn a lot from you if I came back to try and move up from 50nlabout your stats - the 3bet % seems a bit low for your stakes, and your steal% seems a bit high. How do you adjust against the blinds who are undoubtedly 3-betting you more as you steal that frequently?

Yeah Tim like never 3bets, but he plays deep, where 3betting OOP becomes much harder to make profitable. Because the deeper we are the more important position becomes, so hands that are standard 3bets at 100bb deep turn into flats 200 deep to make it more profitable on later streets.And nobody really adjusts to such a high steal % too much, because everybody does it now. Although that could be reg-filled FTP games getting to me.Here are my position stats if anybody is interested.

[tskillz187 0]

nah, I just mean you're a solid winner and I could probably learn a lot from you if I came back to try and move up from 50nlabout your stats - the 3bet % seems a bit low for your stakes, and your steal% seems a bit high. How do you adjust against the blinds who are undoubtedly 3-betting you more as you steal that frequently?

The better you table select the less you can 3bet imo, but it is on the low side, I think 5-5.5% would be more "correct". But like, I'd 3bet regs that are on my right a lot if I was button and they were CO, but I don't often put regs on my right I have fish on my right who either are super aggro and don't fold to 3bets, or who are super passive and only raise the nuts, so against both those guys flatting > 3betting. As for aggro blinds, if they are 100bbs deep then you have to slow down a little bit and mix in 4 bet bluffs, with 4bets for value, but really I just double them up quickly so that they'll be 200bbs deep and 3bet way too much OOP and I'll call them and be in position and stack them that way by them overplaying AQ, or their bluffs or w/e they're doing.

[JaoTi 0]

This was my favourite deep hand for a while.Converted by the cows of Feral Cow PokerFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.50/$1 ante $0.20 - 6 playersCO: $87.30 Button: $172.15 SB: $213.40 BB: $202.10 (Hero)UTG: $200.00 UTG+1: $378.30 Preflop: ($2.50) Hero is BB with (6 players)3 folds, SB raises to $4, Hero raises to $13, SB calls $9Flop: ($27.00) (3 players)SB bets $18, Hero calls $18Turn: ($63.00) (3 players)SB bets $39, Hero calls $39River: ($141.00) (3 players)SB bets $143.20, and is all in, Hero calls $131.90, and is all inSB showed , and lost with King Jack highHero showed , and won ($401.80) with a straight, Nine highHero won $401.80(Rake: $3)

[CobaltBlue 662]

That's what I thought too, but I learnt that Snamuh has a cbet >80%, kinda blew my mind. Mine is slightly over 50% too.

My flop Cbet % over 71k hands this year is 85.5%.

[trystero 0]

that's surprising. I know snamuh's a big winner and a great overall player, and I'm surprised that at his stakes he's able to get away with that high of a cbet %.my perception of "small-mid stakes" nlhe must be all offI miss his posts

[KingJames 11]

Thanks all for the replies. I def do need to more positionally aware. And hopefully as my 6max sample size gets larger it will become more optimal.Also, I know I post a lot of bad beats in here, but damn; I have never ran so as bad as I have run the past week. But I really am doing okay with it.Last night, live pokers I got set-over-set'd again... Had two people hit gutters that gave me top two, and just in general got crushed. I robusto'd at one point, then lost some more... meh night imo

[Royal_Tour 0]

Man... the forums are sloooww now a days.. this thread is the only place to be for strat it seems like..anyways - about the stats youve guys have been posting and commenting on.I tend to look at people beating up a game, usually have higher % flops seen/cbets in ratio to pots won. Like someone noted before. game selection is a big plus for anything 6max or up.However, being a predominantly live player over online, I tend to look at the play of a hand more, instead of justifying a play with stats.if any of you follow the forums at poker road, there is a great thread Barry Greenstein wrote in the red pro forum section about these.with weigh ins from live and online pro's

[JaoTi 0]

My flop Cbet % over 71k hands this year is 85.5%.

It doesn't count when you root beer

that's surprising. I know snamuh's a big winner and a great overall player, and I'm surprised that at his stakes he's able to get away with that high of a cbet %.my perception of "small-mid stakes" nlhe must be all offI miss his posts

I'm guessing that it's a range that can be balanced pretty effectively overall if we're cbetting a ton of boards. In general villains really don't play back against cbets particularly optimally either, as they generally either c/r too much or too little, and they normally don't consider which are the correct boards to do either, rather than just deciding on a whim that they're going to c/r some random flop and shove turn.

[tskillz187 0]

Yeah I mean I can't comment with much knowledge on how they have success cbetting so much because it was my biggest leak. In general you're going to be playing bigger pots on boards where your range doesn't hit as hard as someone's c/c or c/r range. I think they're definitely the exception to the rule though and that they are playing a more difficult form of poker. I'm sure since they've logged so many hands they've figured it out, but you're going to be doing what seems to me like a lot of "guesswork" on ranges and playing bloated pots with marginal holdings a lot. IMO the benefit of position is doing none of those things as often as possible.

[droberts 3]

I pay attention to my position alot as well.. sometimes in limped pots i limp as well on the button since i will have the best position postflop. Also its usually with decent drawing hands, not like random trash hands.in this hand, after the BB raised and all the calls i couldnt find the fold button. Now the question, after i flop the world, is do i go ahead and raise to get UTG+1 all in?Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 373861The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterBB: $3.40UTG: $9.55UTG+1: $6.05UTG+2: $3.10MP1: $0.75MP2: $3.45CO: $2.95Hero (BTN): $10.00SB: $10.45Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 7 9 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, UTG+2 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, BB raises to $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.40, UTG+2 calls $0.40, MP1 calls $0.40, MP2 calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, 1 foldFlop: ($3.10) 9 7 7 (6 players)BB checks, UTG+1 bets $0.50, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25 all in, MP2 folds, Hero calls $0.50, BB raises to $2.90 all in, UTG+1 calls $2.40

[KingJames 11]

I don't think you can go wrong in this spot. But seeing as he has another ~$3.00 behind, it's hardly more than a min-raise.Also, I know it's like 6-way pre-flop but with so many short-stacks, is it okay? Like are the implied odds enough??

[Royal_Tour 0]

I pay attention to my position alot as well.. sometimes in limped pots i limp as well on the button since i will have the best position postflop. Also its usually with decent drawing hands, not like random trash hands.in this hand, after the BB raised and all the calls i couldnt find the fold button. Now the question, after i flop the world, is do i go ahead and raise to get UTG+1 all in?Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 373861The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterBB: $3.40UTG: $9.55UTG+1: $6.05UTG+2: $3.10MP1: $0.75MP2: $3.45CO: $2.95Hero (BTN): $10.00SB: $10.45Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 7 9 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, UTG+2 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, BB raises to $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.40, UTG+2 calls $0.40, MP1 calls $0.40, MP2 calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, 1 foldFlop: ($3.10) 9 7 7 (6 players)BB checks, UTG+1 bets $0.50, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25 all in, MP2 folds, Hero calls $0.50, BB raises to $2.90 all in, UTG+1 calls $2.40

This is funny. This is very similar to a hand posted last week, where I told the hero to raise from button after 2 limpers with 10h8h..I used to limp suited connectors from button all the time, but now if i have a playable hand in position, I'll throw in a raise, (very often).This situation tho is weird, because soo many short stacks. 1 guy even has 75 cents.. ridiculous. These spots are nice when you hit a miracle flop and get all your chips in the middleBut we all know that aggression and strong playing from position is going to win us a lot more uncontested pots in this spot. However, like i told the other poster, its only worth doing if you're confident you can outplay your table post flop.Otherwise, limp and pray.

I don't think you can go wrong in this spot. But seeing as he has another ~$3.00 behind, it's hardly more than a min-raise.Also, I know it's like 6-way pre-flop but with so many short-stacks, is it okay? Like are the implied odds enough??

he;s getting almost 7-1. Its more than ok to call the raise from button. However, the implied odds do suck balls.If his tables are always like this.. like short stacks galore, people buying in for the min, etc.. he should just play very TAG poker, very positional poker.he isnt going to have huge "5-full-buy-in" wins, but he'll consistantly come out on top each session.. (almost always)

[droberts 3]

he isnt going to have huge "5-full-buy-in" wins, but he'll consistantly come out on top each session.. (almost always)

very true... 1 losing session this past month, but i only won 20 buy ins... not huge wins, just consistent everyday wins

[KingJames 11]

very true... 1 losing session this past month, but i only won 20 buy ins... not huge wins, just consistent everyday wins

Keep it up.

[Luke00016 0]

if any of you follow the forums at poker road, there is a great thread Barry Greenstein wrote in the red pro forum section about these.with weigh ins from live and online pro's

Is there a link to this, or is it a "members only" private section? Would love to read it, personally.

[Royal_Tour 0]

Is there a link to this, or is it a "members only" private section? Would love to read it, personally.

http://www.pokerroad.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3936Ok, so its not about cash games, but the idea behind Barry's views on math and how people base plays on a calculation is neat.its sparked from tournament discussion, but still a good read

[Luke00016 0]

http://www.pokerroad.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3936

Thanks! I'd never checked out this forum before, looks like I need to.

[Royal_Tour 0]

Thanks! I'd never checked out this forum before, looks like I need to.

Yea. lots of good stuff from pro's in that section.

[tskillz187 0]

I posted this over at 4BB but for those of you that aren't members there, here's a repost, just throwing it out there.I'm going to start offering coaching. This is not a staking arrangement and it will not be a staking arrangement, so please don't ask. I figured I would post it in SSNL because you are my target audience and would be the ones I feel would benefit from my coaching. I only feel comfortable coaching 6max nlhe and I think I'm a better deepstack player than I am 100bbs deep, but I feel like I would still be very beneficial for 100bb players.Cost of coaching: $75/session.What you need: Mikogo (Teamviewer doesn't work for me), and a microphoneDetails of a "session": 90 minutes of coaching. A typical session would start looking over some hands in HEM or PT3 from a recent session. I'd prefer you had some hands of interest before the session started, but hey it's your money and your 90 minutes. We would go over specifics of what you are trying to improve, maybe it's "everything" or maybe you're struggling with aggro players, or bet sizing, or just general thought process, find some hands and lets talk about examples. This intro to the session should be about 20 minutes or so. Then I would have you play, probably 2-4 tables based on your comfort of multitabling but no more than 4 for a coaching session. Hopefully we'd get into some decent spots with hands to discuss after and focusing on the "theme" that you want, but obv trying to improve all aspects of your game. This playing would be somewhere from 40-50 minutes, then we'd look at the hands of interest from the session you had played, debrief on things to improve and you'd be on your way.Commitment: 1 session is fine with me. If you want to do 5 sessions up front that's the most I'll take because I don't want you committed too long where you feel you're losing value. If you book 5 sessions I'll cut price to $325 (it would be $375 based on the $75/sesh).Target Audience: I think I'd be most beneficial to $25nl-$100nl players. If you're playing $200nl and doing pretty well, I could probably be of some help, but I don't know how much value would be there. I tried to make my rate reasonable for the $25nl-$50nl players, I know dropping a couple buyins seems daunting, but I wouldn't put the post up if I wasn't confident it'd be worth it.Why I'm doing it: First off it will make me some money off of the poker tables and I want to put that out in the open right away, I'm not some saint giving back to the community or w/e. I also obv care about players improving, I post quite often in this thread and like to see people trying to get better and taking accountability in their game. Lastly, when Ryan was choosing his students to stake I received a few PMs asking if I'd be interested in staking players as well from players and I was not interested. I'm still not interested in staking right now, I don't want to tie up my money as I'm trying to move up through the limits and become very comfortable at 2-4nl (I'm currently playing almost all 1-2nl again after a downswing this month). There is a possibility of staking in the future after coaching, but if that is your motivation please don't ask for a session because it wouldn't be until farther down the road, when I'm hopefully playing professionally and not just to supplement my teaching salary.Why you should be interested: I know coaching sessions take a bad rap compared to staking deals. Instead of the backer taking on the risk, the student is in a coaching/session deal. However, the long term nature of most stakes is frustrating and often you lose your value of having the coaching after a few sessions or the backer isn't around as often as you would like for sessions. This deal is very black and white and you know exactly how much you are paying and what to expect from it.How to contact me: I'd prefer to keep this thread clean and not hijack it, so if you're interested PM me and we can work out times and ideas, or w/e. If you have general questions because I was unclear about something, please post them in this thread so it's out in the open for everyone to see.Payment: You can ship money to me on either Stars, Tilt, or AP/UB. I'd prefer AP/Ub as that's the only place I'm playing right now, but finding someone to swap with shouldn't be too difficult. I'm expecting payment before the session begins, to ensure that I actually do receive the money.Alright, I think that about covers it. If this is completely unacceptable by 4bb terms or w/e then mod please remove, I def don't want to come off as salesy/sleezy or anything like that.

[droberts 3]

if it wasnt 10% of my BR i would be interested.. i think i need to move up to atleast 25NL before i could afford to ask for help.. so i will def keep this in mind.

[tskillz187 0]

If your roll is $750 I would advise moving up to $25nl. If you lose 5 buyins I'd move back down. I think $750 would be the border of too risky to buy a session, it depends on how much you got out of it, which I think would be substantial, and also how important your roll is to you. Get to 1k and I think it'd be pretty +EV to get a sesh, but obv I think that cuz it's me

[Royal_Tour 0]

If your roll is $750 I would advise moving up to $25nl. If you lose 5 buyins I'd move back down. I think $750 would be the border of too risky to buy a session, it depends on how much you got out of it, which I think would be substantial, and also how important your roll is to you. Get to 1k and I think it'd be pretty +EV to get a sesh, but obv I think that cuz it's me

I'll give coaching for $25 a session.. There is nobody who would want my coaching, but just so you know... i'm the competition

[droberts 3]

If your roll is $750 I would advise moving up to $25nl. If you lose 5 buyins I'd move back down.

im just now getting really comfortable with 10NL..been here for a little over a month and im up 25BI i guess i tend to wait too long before i move up levels. not exactly sure when i was goin to move up to 25NL though.i dont take poker "seriously".. just a fun hobby that i could enjoy the occasional nice cashout.how many tables would u suggest if i move up to 25NL.. i have been 9 tabling for bout 2 months, so im fairly comfortable with that many.