Top Pair Facing River Bet

[Ricer98 0]

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.10 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)UTG ($9.17)MP ($10)Hero ($25.20)SB ($4.22)BB ($13.13)Preflop: Hero is Button with Q , A . UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.5, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.40.Flop: ($1.15) 4 , Q , 2 (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $1, UTG calls $1.Turn: ($3.15) 6 (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $2.5, UTG calls $2.50.River: ($8.15) 5 (2 players)UTG bets $5.17 (All-In), Hero calls $5.17.Final Pot: $18.49Well, ugly river, and of course I get lead into. I wouldn't normally have a problem folding top pair but nothing the villian is representing in this hand makes any sense given the action. Its hard to give him credit for a 3 to have called two fairly large bets on the flop and turn. Giving the villian any hand with a Q than would've made two pair is quite a stretch, even for .10 NL. Very few players are that loose to be limp calling Q6 or smaller. Two pair with a suited or unsuited connector type hand is possible, but then the villian probably doesn't fire out on the river afraid of the straight. I'd say the same logic goes for a flopped set that was slowplaying. 66 and 55 are very slim because most players who are weak enough that they just limp call with small pairs usually fold at the sight of a single over card. What does everyone think about this call? Its hard to put the villian on a hand that beats me, even though hes representing one. I could pretty much never show up with a straight here, after reperesenting a big hand up til the river. I only need to be right 2 times out of 5 to beak even against what really looks like a bluff.

[jmbreslin 0]

Unless you have reason to believe he's a complete maniac, that river bet must represent a strong hand. That betting pattern signals trap big-time. I agree the straight is very, very unlikely, but this really looks like a flopped set with 44 or 22. I don't think you can rule this out simply because his river bet isn't the ideal play with that hand. That board is just perfect for a slow-played baby set given that you raised PF. Only 1 high card, no flush draw, a longshot low straight draw, the turn brings a 4th suit and another low card...absolutely no threats to his set.

[Ricer98 0]

Unless you have reason to believe he's a complete maniac, that river bet must represent a strong hand. That betting pattern signals trap big-time. I agree the straight is very, very unlikely, but this really looks like a flopped set with 44 or 22. I don't think you can rule this out simply because his river bet isn't the ideal play with that hand. That board is just perfect for a slow-played baby set given that you raised PF. Only 1 high card, no flush draw, a longshot low straight draw, the turn brings a 4th suit and another low card...absolutely no threats to his set.

I want to add I'm not totally ruling these hands out, just saying they are unlikely given the action.Lets say the villian was slow playing something. Why does he lead out on the river then? Unless I think hes bluffing I can't call without the straight. Why would he bet two pair or a set there knowing I can't call unless I have a hand that beats him. He would have to be making a fairly deep level of thought play of thinking I won't give him credit for the straight, and knowing I couldn't have the straight from my actions to be betting a set or two pair for value here. Now since I highly doubt this advanced of a play is going to be coming from him, I see this as a straight or a bluff. Against more aggressive players I call this just about every time since their action doesn't make since for a hand that beats me and they will be bluffing more often. But, at lower limits with less bluffing, I'm not sure. How this guys shows up with a 3 or 78 in his hand after putting in 44% of his stack I'm not sure. There are some players even at his level that are going to realize that I can't have a straight and bet without one expecting me to fold. I would also expect that bluff to not add up since, they are less experience players and don't realize you can't just shove chips in on a bluff without it making since for you to hold what you are representing.

[danc1984 0]

I call but I don't like it. Prob 35o. However, $10NL slowplay flopped sets regardless of the board, they pay no attention to how draw-heavy it is. The problem for you is that there aren't really any missed draws for him to be bluffing here. I think you are behind, but its tough for me to fold this hand getting the price that you are here.

[sabes99 0]

based on the price i think you have to call...you are only behind a flopped set, or maybe 6-4/5-4 if he's that loose, in my mind, and even then, would he lead the river for all his money with the 4-straight?

[BuffDan 0]

The check/call, check/call, bet out river line screams out strength to me, but with 4 to a straight on the board and the fact that the villain is all in and the fact that it is not a huge percentage of the pot lead me to believe this is a desperation bluff enough times to make a call reasonable. I also think the fact that villain needs the 3 in his hand to have the straight and that it was a gutshot also contribute to a call.