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this might be a strange place to post, but here goesrecently i found out that my access to my education savings plan had been blocked, without any prior notice, and I am unable to go back to school in the fall. this is because in my first year, although I was a full time student and completed all my required courses for my major with electives, I only took 3.5 credits and opted not to pay for another .5 credit that wouldn't go towards my major and would essentially be a filler course (why waste $1000+ when in later years I can take more relevant and interesting courses).in canada, we have a program called osap, but ive missed the deadline to apply and they don't award anywhere near enough to cover my full tuition costs of a yearright now, my only real options are to goto school part time and work to eventually get enough to go backhas anyone else been in a similar situation?and to whoever says 'play poker!'; id love to try, but my bankroll is nowhere near big enough and thats way too risky, im looking for info on any student loan/financial institution arrangements anyone might have received that im not aware ofthanks in advance

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this might be a strange place to post, but here goesrecently i found out that my access to my education savings plan had been blocked, without any prior notice, and I am unable to go back to school in the fall. this is because in my first year, although I was a full time student and completed all my required courses for my major with electives, I only took 3.5 credits and opted not to pay for another .5 credit that wouldn't go towards my major and would essentially be a filler course (why waste $1000+ when in later years I can take more relevant and interesting courses).in canada, we have a program called osap, but ive missed the deadline to apply and they don't award anywhere near enough to cover my full tuition costs of a yearright now, my only real options are to goto school part time and work to eventually get enough to go backhas anyone else been in a similar situation?and to whoever says 'play poker!'; id love to try, but my bankroll is nowhere near big enough and thats way too risky, im looking for info on any student loan/financial institution arrangements anyone might have received that im not aware ofthanks in advance
working part time and taking 4 course is a sure way to get through school. The school can give you a payment plan over the entire year to lighten the burden. Do you live with your parents , how far is your school, is there a financial office at your school, is this for university or college. have you ever worked before?
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ive already spoken to the university about a payment plan, and what they offer is very reasonable however its the combination of school (with textbooks thats another $1000 easily for just 4 courses, im paying $270 in texts for a single summer credit) and living expenses; i live away from home very close to school which is easily accessible so thats not an issuein regards to working, i worked as a power skating instructor for 5 years making initially $8 but got up to $15, however it was nowhere near as many hours as a regular part time job so most of that was spent on first year (i lived in residence and enrolled in a specialist program, more expensive); that was in addition to the money i had in my education savings plan

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ive already spoken to the university about a payment plan, and what they offer is very reasonable however its the combination of school (with textbooks thats another $1000 easily for just 4 courses, im paying $270 in texts for a single summer credit) and living expenses; i live away from home very close to school which is easily accessible so thats not an issuein regards to working, i worked as a power skating instructor for 5 years making initially $8 but got up to $15, however it was nowhere near as many hours as a regular part time job so most of that was spent on first year (i lived in residence and enrolled in a specialist program, more expensive); that was in addition to the money i had in my education savings plan
sleazy copies stores tend to have underground photocopies of books, but you didn't hear that from me. what school are you going to?
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take a year off and build a bankroll playing poker while saving enough money to go to school.buy a cardrunners membership and you will be a shark.

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I am able to afford grad school right now through my company's tuition reimbursement program, so looking for places of employment that offer something similar might not hurt.If you are looking to be around poker and make some money, try becoming a dealer. You can make tips and still learn lots of information about the game without risking any of your own bankroll.

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Become an autodidact like me.Late fee's at the library are minimal, and internet is relatively cheap.
I'm with you, here. Some of the smartest people I know took that rout, and it may surprise some of you to know that even the great Dutch is not a Harvard grad. If you're actually interested in learning things, sitting around on the internet is a better way than college. The things a college degree is best for are elevating nit-wits from working at the mall to working in an office-based prison, despite not having actually learned anything, and impressing system-loving idiots who spout meaningless cliches about about the merits of "education." Few smart people have ever actually learned anything of consequence from a classroom, after the age of 12. Math excluded.
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Few smart people have ever actually learned anything of consequence from a classroom, after the age of 12. Math excluded.
Lol this a funny statement. So throughout my engineering degree I have learned nothing of value besides math in my classrooms. Haha, I disagree. That means that I am not smart because I did learn something from an experienced teacher or I’m one of the few smart people who did learn something, which I doubt. That is just a ridiculous thing to say but please entertain me and elaborate, I’m sure you have a theory behind what appears your madness.
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My GI Bill paid for some of my grad school...the rest i did in student loans...don't know if u guys have those types of loans in Canada...but basically u get the loan and don't have to restart paying it until 6 months after u finish school...and the interest rate is pretty low...i think i have a 3.45% int. on mine good luck

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Lol this a funny statement. So throughout my engineering degree I have learned nothing of value besides math in my classrooms. Haha, I disagree. That means that I am not smart because I did learn something from an experienced teacher or I’m one of the few smart people who did learn something, which I doubt. That is just a ridiculous thing to say but please entertain me and elaborate, I’m sure you have a theory behind what appears your madness.
Don't be so hard on yourself.No but really, I was obviously exaggerating, and I talk out of my ass enough of the time, and I'm sure there are things that are best learned in that setting and things that you don't really care to learn through experience (like how to best distribute the weight of a bridge), but a large amount of what's learned in college is either pointless, retard-level, things you should know through common sense or things best learned in another way. The way the entire education system and preferred technique works is really not very efficient, and the focus is a lot less aimed toward actually learn things than it is toward memorizing and regurgitating things you might not really understand. College isn't completely pointless, but I would guess that all things being equal, 70% of the people in college shouldn't be there.
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Don't be so hard on yourself.No but really, I was obviously exaggerating, and I talk out of my ass enough of the time, and I'm sure there are things that are best learned in that setting and things that you don't really care to learn through experience (like how to best distribute the weight of a bridge), but a large amount of what's learned in college is either pointless, retard-level, things you should know through common sense or things best learned in another way. The way the entire education system and preferred technique works is really not very efficient, and the focus is a lot less aimed toward actually learn things than it is toward memorizing and regurgitating things you might not really understand. College isn't completely pointless, but I would guess that all things being equal, 70% of the people in college shouldn't be there.
I guess I agree with your general sentiment, but it has nothing to do with the OP's question, I feel like most people go to college to party and be able to get entry-level positions and work there way up. I doubt most people go to college for higher education as it is (usually) more efficient to teach yourself through books and possibly have some sort of mentor.
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I guess I agree with your general sentiment, but it has nothing to do with the OP's question, I feel like most people go to college to party and be able to get entry-level positions and work there way up. I doubt most people go to college for higher education as it is (usually) more efficient to teach yourself through books and possibly have some sort of mentor.
I understand, I was just responding to and agreeing with Spades' pretension.
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You need to remember that your college education is an investment that will pay off when u get a "real" job when you graduate. See if your parents will give you a "loan" (interest free) or that you can pay back after u graduate or take out a student loan

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I guess I agree with your general sentiment, but it has nothing to do with the OP's question, I feel like most people go to college to party and be able to get entry-level positions and work there way up. I doubt most people go to college for higher education as it is (usually) more efficient to teach yourself through books and possibly have some sort of mentor.
this is exactly what going to school does for you. They tell you to get a book, the teacher mentors you on it, you go home and learn it. I don't see how it is easier to do this alone at home.
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this is exactly what going to school does for you. They tell you to get a book, the teacher mentors you on it, you go home and learn it. I don't see how it is easier to do this alone at home.
I would argue I'd teach the stuff to myself better if I just didn't go to the class read the material and corresponded with a professor that I felt was an expert through office hours or email. So I could actually just be near a college, learn who the professors were that I was interested in, take books out from the library and learn the stuff for free, or near free.I used efficient to mean cost effective and overall better. When I go to college I go to achieve a grade so that a future employer looks highly (or not negatively) upon me. I couldn't really care less if I actually learn.
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I used efficient to mean cost effective and overall better. When I go to college I go to achieve a grade so that a future employer looks highly (or not negatively) upon me. I couldn't really care less if I actually learn.
That sounds more like a problem with the student rather than the school. College is what you make of it. Be active in class, go to office hours, pitch ideas off classmates, read the extra material and ask questions about it in class. College offers a lot, and its not their fault students dont take advantage of it. They arent babysitters. As someone said above, There's a lot of people in college that shouldnt be there.And for anyone going into a technical field, I think college is essential. Students learn way more than they realize, and a lot of it is fundamental stuff they'll need to hep them learn more stuff on the job. Most engineers wont be experts until at least 10 years on the job. It's a long road. It is possible to excel at engineering or some other technical field without higher education, but I would never recommend it. Some of those guys are great, but I usually find those people are missing some basic fundamentals and lag behind others of similar age.
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A distinction needs to be made here.In general, hard sciences are best learned in school.Most everything else seems to be taught to the lowest common denominator, and ambitious learners will get far more knowledge from self-study than they will from any classroom.

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