greg raymer eliminated

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Date / Time: 2005-04-22 14:10:00 Title: Greg Raymer Eliminated in 33rd Place ($47,180) Log: Greg Raymer pushes all in preflop with pocket nines, and he's called by Victor Ramdin's A-K. Raymer retains the lead on a flop of 10-6-2, and he's still good with an 8 on the turn. But the river card was an ace, and Greg Raymer is eliminated in 33rd place, earning $47,180.

[knght311 0]

Good, he's a tard

[allinbluff35 0]

Good, he's a tard

same with you

[knght311 0]

Good, he's a tard

same with you

Please explain to me why people feel that they must defend these idiot one-timers. Dave Williams, Raymer, Moneymaker...they all got lucky, I admit Williams is alot better than the others but they are not the people to idolize...I mean c'mon have you not seen the pokerstars ad on TV, it is just laughable

[FtWorthKid 0]

What's wrong with Raymer?I thought he conducted a Hold 'em clinic at last year's WSOP Main Evevnt...

[tekku7181 0]

Williams and Raymer are both very good tournament players who have been successful on several occasions in the past..

[Wrathraven 0]

Good, he's a tard

Jesus Christ, does this forum not have moderators or something? I haven't been here long but I'm already sick of seeing pointless and insulting comments like this.

[allinbluff35 0]

Good, he's a tard

same with you

Please explain to me why people feel that they must defend these idiot one-timers. Dave Williams, Raymer, Moneymaker...they all got lucky, I admit Williams is alot better than the others but they are not the people to idolize...I mean c'mon have you not seen the pokerstars ad on TV, it is just laughable

I defended Greg Raymer, then you thought you should bring in DW & MM. I didn't defend them. I defended a guy who has been beating the higher limit games at Foxwoods for a number of years.

[knght311 0]

Good, he's a tard

same with you

Please explain to me why people feel that they must defend these idiot one-timers. Dave Williams, Raymer, Moneymaker...they all got lucky, I admit Williams is alot better than the others but they are not the people to idolize...I mean c'mon have you not seen the pokerstars ad on TV, it is just laughable

I defended Greg Raymer, then you thought you should bring in DW & MM. I didn't defend them. I defended a guy who has been beating the higher limit games at Foxwoods for a number of years.

The same guy that must resort to being sponsored by a cheap poker site and who puts out shameless ads...yeah he must be doing killing those foxwoods games, maybe he should go back to being a lawyer.and Williams and MM are just par for the course

[obs 0]

The same guy that must resort to being sponsored by a cheap poker site and who puts out shameless ads...yeah he must be doing killing those foxwoods games...

Along with countless other pros including the one hosting this site.

[allinbluff35 0]

The same guy that must resort to being sponsored by a cheap poker site and who puts out shameless ads...yeah he must be doing killing those foxwoods games, maybe he should go back to being a lawyer. and Williams and MM are just par for the courseYou forgot to add a few names to the pro's that sponsor sites: Raymer, Negreanu, Cloutier, Hansen, Ivey, Lederer, Lindgren, Harmon, Hellmuth, and Duke

[Scott3705 0]

The same guy that must resort to being sponsored by a cheap poker site and who puts out shameless ads...yeah he must be doing killing those foxwoods games,You did see Daniel's big endorsement of Poker Mountain on the front of page of this Website. Didn't you?

[semaj550 0]

Meh, Raymer wasn't exactly swimming in chips at the blinds were getting up there. Personally I think he should have waited and looked for better cards but I've seen worse moves.I'm definately NOT a Raymer fan but this wasn't his worst move. Not horrible at all, really.

[deviper 0]

Good, he's a tard

same with you

Please explain to me why people feel that they must defend these idiot one-timers. Dave Williams, Raymer, Moneymaker...they all got lucky, I admit Williams is alot better than the others but they are not the people to idolize...I mean c'mon have you not seen the pokerstars ad on TV, it is just laughable

Idiot one-timers huh. i think the only idiot here is you. Dont come on here bashing people becasue there more sucessful and talented then yull ever be. And mabey MM and raymer did the comercials becasue its there home site which they support, i highly doubt that they got paid alot of money to do those comercials.

[MikeR 0]

Jesus Christ, does this forum not have moderators or something?

[StaleOne 0]

Good, he's a tard

well, I would say the general consesus here is a big FU.Glad you stopped by. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

[minorityreport 0]

Kn311, you got a lot to learn amigo, but I can see where you are coming from.Granted Raymer doesn't have the credibility, I'm inclined to believe that he is a skilled poker player. There are different levels of credibility. I'm assuming the kind of credibility you're talking about is KiD PoKeR level where one never worked a "legitimate" job in his lifetime. Not every poker player--even a good one--has the eye of the tiger, but you can't discount what achievements they've made.The fact remains only the future will show whether Raymer stands the test of time; but I know what is certain, Greg Raymer is more articulate than your more credible top player. Peep his commentary over his main event final table. In the end, I doubt Raymer would care either way--you don't just wake up one day as a patent attorney--in poker you can claim otherwise. He would probably be the first to admit that he's squeezing as much out of this as he can--who can blame the guy.

[knght311 0]

Kn311, you got a lot to learn amigo, but I can see where you are coming from.Granted Raymer doesn't have the credibility, I'm inclined to believe that he is a skilled poker player. There are different levels of credibility. I'm assuming the kind of credibility you're talking about is KiD PoKeR level where one never worked a "legitimate" job in his lifetime. Not every poker player--even a good one--has the eye of the tiger, but you can't discount what achievements they've made.The fact remains only the future will show whether Raymer stands the test of time; but I know what is certain, Greg Raymer is more articulate than your more credible top player. Peep his commentary over his main event final table. In the end, I doubt Raymer would care either way--you don't just wake up one day as a patent attorney--in poker you can claim otherwise. He would probably be the first to admit that he's squeezing as much out of this as he can--who can blame the guy.

agreed..just don't like his play or his gimmicks, he should have lost the WSOP, he gambled in the wrong spots and got EXTREMELY lucky, he is determined though, I will give him that, and shit, I would be tryting to squeeze too

[UpInTheAir 0]

Good, he's a tard

Jesus Christ, does this forum not have moderators or something? I haven't been here long but I'm already sick of seeing pointless and insulting comments like this.

What are you Christian or something?Why else would you want to censore someone's thoughts.God He's a tard is hardly something to worry about, Eva Braun. :roll:

[RonBurgundy 0]

Good, he's a tard

richest.tard.ever.

[deviper 0]

Kn311, you got a lot to learn amigo, but I can see where you are coming from.Granted Raymer doesn't have the credibility, I'm inclined to believe that he is a skilled poker player. There are different levels of credibility. I'm assuming the kind of credibility you're talking about is KiD PoKeR level where one never worked a "legitimate" job in his lifetime. Not every poker player--even a good one--has the eye of the tiger, but you can't discount what achievements they've made.The fact remains only the future will show whether Raymer stands the test of time; but I know what is certain, Greg Raymer is more articulate than your more credible top player. Peep his commentary over his main event final table. In the end, I doubt Raymer would care either way--you don't just wake up one day as a patent attorney--in poker you can claim otherwise. He would probably be the first to admit that he's squeezing as much out of this as he can--who can blame the guy.

agreed..just don't like his play or his gimmicks, he should have lost the WSOP, he gambled in the wrong spots and got EXTREMELY lucky, he is determined though, I will give him that, and censored, I would be tryting to squeeze too

not really he only got really lucky on about 2 or 3 hands at the final table. he did get cards though but played them well.

[Smasharoo 0]

he should have lost the WSOP, he gambled in the wrong spots and got EXTREMELY luckyRaymer?Not really. It's hard to argue with any of his plays that were televised. Everyone has to take coinflips in tournament, to win the tournament you have to win more of them than you lose. ANYONE who wins a tournament witn 1000+ people has to get lucky. There's more luck than skill in Holdem. This isn't news.

[allinbluff35 0]

There's more luck than skill in Holdem. This isn't news.it is to most people

[TS Clark 0]

We don't have to really "guess" or be "inclined to believe" that Greg Raymer is a great poker player. The guy started with $1,000 that he and his wife agreed would be his poker bankroll and he now regularly plays the highest limit games spread at Foxwoods. No one who regularly sits in (and, reportedly, crushes) $150-$300 limit games at a major casino needs the approval or endorsement of ANYONE on this site.That guy's resume is on the street. My feeling has always been that all the people who badmouth this guy are just purely jealous. Until any of us have done what he's done (or even something remotely like it), we need to give the guy the respect he deserves. The "haters" don't have to like him, you can think he just got "lucky", but don't make yourself look like a fool by running your mouths about a guy you couldn't make lunch for, let alone beat.

[TS Clark 0]

he should have lost the WSOP, he gambled in the wrong spots and got EXTREMELY luckyRaymer?Not really. It's hard to argue with any of his plays that were televised. Everyone has to take coinflips in tournament, to win the tournament you have to win more of them than you lose. ANYONE who wins a tournament witn 1000+ people has to get lucky. There's more luck than skill in Holdem. This isn't news.

This is 100% true. As Mr. Roo says, NO ONE wins a large field tourney without some serious luck on their side.