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[bdc30 0]

I'm not really "super" worried about going broke - I can reload fairly easily now.Bud played at 25 for a bit with me the other day and noted how tight it was. I thought I'd give $50 a shot and quite enjoyed the looser action.

[BudBundy 0]

For tightness 25$ > $50 > $100. 100$ Plo is definitely a lot looser and full of more action than the other 2. But this doesn't mean games are easier. It is just more people in many pots playing more aggressively. at 50$ there is more flop action than 25$ and players are more like to pot and repot with hands which a 25$ plo player would call down to showdown.If you bankroll allows , i think 2 tabling 50$ is better than 4 tabling 25$. While 4 tabling , it sorta becomes automatic.I don't think much about my decisions while 4 tabling. It is like i just know the standard play and do it. But while 2 tabling i put much more thought in every action. I get better reads on players and be able to make moves according to their betting patterns.I was 4 tabling 25$ at first and I was quite profitable according to that stake. I ran +10BB for well over 25.000 hands. Then i moved up to 50$ only two tabling. Then i added one more. Then i moved up to 100$ only 2 tabling.As you know PLO is a more complex game than Holdem so it is not easy to multitable it like we do in holdem. I think 2 is enough for beginning. 3 is optimum for me but i believe 4 can be done with experience. +4 is beyond my imagination.

[bdc30 0]

I liked what you said about being able to think through plays more and make read based moves at the higher limit. I found that $25plo didn't suit my style. I'm at I think -3bb/100 through almost 6k hands at $25 this month. Granted, it's only 800 hands, but I felt so much more comfortable playing only two tables of $50 last night. None of my decisions were rushed, kept an eye on some players and what they were showing down, raising with, things of that nature. I think I'm gonna stick with it for now...see if I can clear the rest of my bonus, and try and keep on keepin on.

[KevinFKHS 0]

short question:Preflop: Hero is UTG with , , , . Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, Button raises to $2.9, 2 folds, Hero folds.Final Pot: $2.05Is that -EV or a fairly standard play folding that hand preflop to a big repot?

[iggymcfly 0]

I will open raise with hands like AsJcTs5d (three high cards with a suited ace) in most positions, or with hands like 5689ss. If I'm against a LAG player (over about 15% PFR) I will also consider reraising these hands in position.

What are your PF stats according to PokerTracker (specifying 6-max or FR)? It seems like you're playing a little too loose to me as AJT5ss is probably only a playable hand for me from the button or the CO and I don't think it's a good reraising hand at all. 5689's fine though.

[simo_8ball 0]

I vary from ~20/8 to ~40/23 depending on the table/opponents. I tend to look for short tables though, so I'm often playing 3 or 4 handed.

[iggymcfly 0]

OK, that's a lot tighter than I expected and is almost exactly on par with what I do as I vary from 28/10 up to 39/21. Sounds like you're in good shape.

[simo_8ball 0]

Yeah, I'm not 3-betting AJT5ss every time from all positions, I just have no problem isolating a LAG in position with hands like it.

[bdc30 0]

28/10 up to 39/21.

Man you guys raise a LOT...lolWhat do you do as far as keeping up aggression after the flop?Do you c-bet whiffed flops, etc?I know I need to get more aggro, I run usually around 5-6%pfr

[BudBundy 0]

Fast play is the new slowplayFull Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.505 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $48.50CO: $77.85Button: $50.85Hero: $90.05BB: $30Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with A J 5 A 2 folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB checks.Flop: Q K Q ($1.5, 3 players)Hero checks, BB checks, Button checks.Turn: A ($1.5, 3 players)Hero bets $1.5, BB calls, Button calls.River: T ($6, 3 players)Hero bets $6, BB calls, Button raises to $24, Hero raises to $83, BB folds, Button calls all-in $24.85.Uncalled bets: $34.15 returned to Hero. Results:Final pot: $109.7Button showed Qs 2c 9s QhHero showed Ah Js 5h Ac

[bdc30 0]

I almost expected to see a royal there, but not quads. Bleh. No raise preflop?

[BudBundy 0]

Well i sometimes raise sometimes don't.I woke up early , went to campus , studied , took an exam which i could barely wrote a few words on the paper , i came home , dirty , hungry , exhausted.What do all these have to do with raising preflop in this hand?I am just too tired to play Aces OOP against two donks.It is a leak tho , i should quit and come back rested.

[bdc30 0]

Yes, rest up, I'll be home in 6hrs and want to get on some $50 tables...lolPlayed exactly 0 hands yesterday. Went home from work, slept 12hrs, woke up, came back to work. Weeeeee...

[BudBundy 0]

I hope i will be sleeping for the next 16hrs*********Stupidest check in PLO history? Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.505 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $45.45CO: $50Button: $50Hero: $47BB: $50Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with A 4 Q K 2 folds, Button raises to $1.75, Hero calls, BB calls.Flop: J Q 9 ($5.25, 3 players)Hero checks, BB checks, Button bets $5, Hero calls, BB folds.Turn: 6 ($15.25, 2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $7.6, Hero raises to $24, Button calls.River: 6 ($63.25, 2 players)Hero checks, Button checks.Results:Final pot: $63.25Hero showed Ac 4c Qh KhButton mucks Kc Tc As 2dI checked with the intention of check calling. I fear a full house so i check hoping to take a free showdown(Like a full house is ever checking behind there) while i am losing 16$ for any lower flush.So no matter what happens in that hand , i lose 16$. Nice eh?

[simo_8ball 0]

Full Tilt Poker Game #3252003928: Table Concord (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 16:36:49 ET - 2007/08/14Seat 1: mempamal ($43.10)Seat 2: halberry ($67.65)Seat 3: greedymoney ($50.85)Seat 4: menexus ($50)Seat 5: bundys ($133.45)Seat 6: Simo123 ($51.65)Simo123 posts the small blind of $0.25mempamal posts the big blind of $0.50The button is in seat #5*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Simo123 [8h Ah As 7d]halberry foldsgreedymoney calls $0.50menexus foldsbundys foldsSimo123 raises to $2mempamal calls $1.50greedymoney calls $1.50*** FLOP *** [2s 4h Jd]Simo123 checksmempamal checksgreedymoney checks*** TURN *** [2s 4h Jd] [Qh]Simo123 bets $3halberry has been disconnectedmempamal raises to $15halberry has reconnectedgreedymoney has 15 seconds left to actgreedymoney foldsSimo123 calls $12*** RIVER *** [2s 4h Jd Qh] [3s]Simo123 has 15 seconds left to actSimo123 checksmempamal bets $26.10, and is all inSimo123 has 15 seconds left to actSimo123 has requested TIMESimo123 foldsUncalled bet of $26.10 returned to mempamalmempamal mucksmempamal wins the pot ($34.20)*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $36 | Rake $1.80Board: [2s 4h Jd Qh 3s]Seat 1: mempamal (big blind) collected ($34.20), muckedSeat 2: halberry didn't bet (folded)Seat 3: greedymoney folded on the TurnSeat 4: menexus didn't bet (folded)Seat 5: bundys (button) didn't bet (folded)Seat 6: Simo123 (small blind) folded on the RiverI shouldn't play a HU HORSE SNG while playing 2 tables of PLO. It makes me play bad. I nearly called the river. WTF am I doing checking that flop? That's worse than Bud's.

[iggymcfly 0]

LOL, I was trying to play some HU HORSE the other day trying to get a cash game started while playing 2 or 3 tables of PLO, and I'll agree that it's very distracting. Razz and LHE I can play fairly mechanically, but the other games take a lot of attention.

[iggymcfly 0]

And yeah, I C-bet quite a bit. 56% of the time when checked to according to PTO. HU on an uncoordinated board or HU against a TAP opponent, that can get pretty close to 100% though.

[simo_8ball 0]

Full Tilt Poker Game #3253915249: Table Goldy (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 20:05:31 ET - 2007/08/14Seat 1: SonOfAuntie ($77.05)Seat 2: zhyk ($46.90)Seat 3: Simo123 ($72.20)Seat 4: hakoattacko ($59.90)Seat 5: Mr Big Blind Sp ($22.05)Seat 6: PeaceDuke ($37.25)PeaceDuke posts the small blind of $0.25SonOfAuntie posts the big blind of $0.50The button is in seat #5*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Simo123 [Ah 9c Ac 4h]zhyk foldsSimo123 raises to $1.75hakoattacko foldsMr Big Blind Sp calls $1.75PeaceDuke calls $1.50SonOfAuntie calls $1.25*** FLOP *** [2s Tc Ts]PeaceDuke checksSonOfAuntie checksSimo123 checksMr Big Blind Sp checks*** TURN *** [2s Tc Ts] [7s]PeaceDuke checksSonOfAuntie checksSimo123 checksMr Big Blind Sp bets $2.50PeaceDuke raises to $5At this point I announce out loud "he has quads"SonOfAuntie has 15 seconds left to actSonOfAuntie foldsSimo123 foldsMr Big Blind Sp calls $2.50*** RIVER *** [2s Tc Ts 7s] [8h]PeaceDuke bets $8.50I now say "absolutely guaranteed, that is quads"Mr Big Blind Sp calls $8.50*** SHOW DOWN ***PeaceDuke shows [Th Td 6c 2c] four of a kind, TensMr Big Blind Sp mucksPeaceDuke wins the pot ($32.30) with four of a kind, TensI was happy with that. It's not often that I am 100% confident in a read.

[simo_8ball 0]

Full Tilt Poker Game #3254036020: Table Concord (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 20:17:41 ET - 2007/08/14Seat 1: BassMan1001 ($12.10)Seat 2: BAKH1023 ($19.25)Seat 3: paulie78 ($115.15)Seat 4: SeriousBizness ($50)Seat 5: Shelly1024 ($97.35)Seat 6: Simo123 ($119.20)Shelly1024 posts the small blind of $0.25Simo123 posts the big blind of $0.50The button is in seat #4*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Simo123 [4h Qc Kh Qs]BassMan1001 calls $0.50BAKH1023 raises to $1paulie78 calls $1SeriousBizness raises to $5.25Shelly1024 calls $5Simo123 calls $4.75BassMan1001 has 15 seconds left to actBassMan1001 calls $4.75BAKH1023 calls $4.25paulie78 calls $4.25*** FLOP *** [Qh 2s Ac]Shelly1024 checksSimo123 checksBassMan1001 checksBAKH1023 checkspaulie78 checksSeriousBizness has 15 seconds left to actSeriousBizness bets $31.50Shelly1024 foldsSimo123 has 15 seconds left to actSimo123 foldsBassMan1001 foldsBAKH1023 foldspaulie78 foldsUncalled bet of $31.50 returned to SeriousBiznessSeriousBizness mucksSeriousBizness wins the pot ($29.95)So annoying. He can only have one hand though.

[simo_8ball 0]

I had a fun night.There were some hilarious hands in there. Might post some tomorrow. Other than a couple of daft calls I played pretty well, but there isn't much you can do in this game when the deck isn't cooperating.

[donk4life 34]

So...Past 5 hands:AcAs5c10cKdKs5hAdKcKd2h5hAhAsJhJsKhKs10c9cSurprisingly, won 4 out of the 5

[BudBundy 0]

Preflop is very close in that QQ hand.Good fold tho.

[simo_8ball 0]

Preflop is very close in that QQ hand.Good fold tho.

I have position on Shelly1024, who also has a 2 buyin stack - this was my main reason for calling. Oh and paulie78 has a stack as well. I felt I could really win a huge pot if I hit a queen. This is why:Seat 1: magic711 ($47.75)Seat 2: jepniinjust ($84.05)Seat 3: Kei-fat ($0), is sitting outSeat 4: Stinch ($55.85)Seat 5: Shelly1024 ($100.90)Seat 6: Simo123 ($122.40)Stinch posts the big blind of $0.50The button is in seat #2*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Simo123 [6s As 5s Ad]Kei-fat has returnedShelly1024 calls $0.50Simo123 raises to $2magic711 calls $2jepniinjust foldsStinch foldsShelly1024 calls $1.50*** FLOP *** [9s Ts 5h]Shelly1024 checksSimo123 has 15 seconds left to actSimo123 bets $6.50magic711 foldsShelly1024 raises to $26Simo123 calls $19.50*** TURN *** [9s Ts 5h] [Td]Shelly1024 checksSimo123 checks*** RIVER *** [9s Ts 5h Td] [2s]Shelly1024 checksSimo123 checks*** SHOW DOWN ***Shelly1024 shows [Th 8s 5d 8d] a full house, Tens full of FivesSimo123 mucksShelly1024 wins the pot ($55.60) with a full house, Tens full of FivesHere are some of the highlights of the session:FullTiltPoker Game #3253527278: Table Toy (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 19:25:27 ET - 2007/08/14Seat 1: Laces999 ($51.50)Seat 2: Simo123 ($46.35)Seat 3: diheart ($19.50)Seat 4: zhyk ($18)Seat 5: jurjeu ($32.45)Seat 6: spach22 ($95.45)Simo123 posts the small blind of $0.25diheart posts the big blind of $0.50The button is in seat #1*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Simo123 [5s 6s 3d 6c]zhyk foldsjurjeu calls $0.50jurjeu: nhspach22 calls $0.50Laces999 calls $0.50Simo123 calls $0.25diheart checks*** FLOP *** [6h Qs 2s]Simo123 checksdiheart bets $1.25jurjeu has 15 seconds left to actjurjeu foldsspach22 calls $1.25Laces999 raises to $7.50Simo123 raises to $27.50diheart foldsspach22 foldsLaces999 calls $20*** TURN *** [6h Qs 2s] [5d]Simo123 bets $18.35, and is all inLaces999 calls $18.35Simo123 shows [5s 6s 3d 6c]Laces999 shows [Ks As 7c 9h]*** RIVER *** [6h Qs 2s 5d] [3s]Simo123 shows a flush, Queen highLaces999 shows a flush, Ace highLaces999 wins the pot ($93.70) with a flush, Ace highSimo123 is sitting outThese are the kind of hands I spew on. I just had no idea where I was, but I didn't believe villain for some reason. This is me throwing money away. Thankfully I came to my senses on the river.This is where you can see my NLHE background appearing. I need to cut it out.Dealt to Simo123 [6s Kc Qd Kd]PeaceDuke adds $50hakoattacko foldska420tie raises to $1.75tszis foldszhyk foldsSimo123 raises to $5.50ka420tie calls $3.75*** FLOP *** [4c 2c 4d]Simo123 bets $7ka420tie calls $7*** TURN *** [4c 2c 4d] [2h]Simo123 bets $10ka420tie raises to $20Simo123 calls $10*** RIVER *** [4c 2c 4d 2h] [5d]Simo123 checkska420tie bets $27.60, and is all inSimo123 has 15 seconds left to actSimo123 has requested TIMESimo123 foldsUncalled bet of $27.60 returned to ka420tieka420tie muckska420tie wins the pot ($62.25)I don't know why I didn't c/f the river here. My thinking was that he has less than the pot left in his stack and I could fold out another QJ. I just didn't want to be bluffed out. Spew.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Simo123 [Qs 6d 5c Js]zhyk has returnedAreliano has 15 seconds left to actAreliano foldsjurjeu calls $0.50weedug foldsi_call16 foldsSimo123 checks*** FLOP *** [Ts Kh 7c]Simo123 checksjurjeu bets $1Simo123 calls $1*** TURN *** [Ts Kh 7c] [Ad]Simo123 checksjurjeu bets $1.50Simo123 raises to $7.75jurjeu calls $6.25*** RIVER *** [Ts Kh 7c Ad] [Kc]Simo123 bets $18.75jurjeu calls $14.45, and is all inUncalled bet of $4.30 returned to Simo123*** SHOW DOWN ***Simo123 shows [Qs 6d 5c Js] a straight, Ace highjurjeu shows [Ah 5s Qh Kd] a full house, Kings full of Acesjurjeu wins the pot ($45.30) with a full house, Kings full of AcesSemi-tilt hand. I know, I know, fold the turn. I should fold the river too. I really have to be more disciplined. After not winning a pot for what seemed like hours, I just hated folding here as well.Dealt to Simo123 [6c Ad Td 7c]mattlee3 calls $0.50Xcessive foldsjoan666 foldsAreliano calls $0.25Simo123 checks*** FLOP *** [Ah As Jc]Areliano checksSimo123 checksmattlee3 bets $1.50Areliano foldsSimo123 calls $1.50*** TURN *** [Ah As Jc] [Js]Simo123 checksmattlee3 bets $4.50Simo123 has 15 seconds left to actSimo123 calls $4.50*** RIVER *** [Ah As Jc Js] [6h]Simo123 checksmattlee3 bets $13.50Simo123 calls $13.50*** SHOW DOWN ***mattlee3 shows [Jd 9s Jh 8d] four of a kind, JacksSimo123 mucksmattlee3 wins the pot ($38.50) with four of a kind, JacksI don't really see that I'm getting away from this with villain being so short. Can I fold for $9 more on the turn?Dealt to Simo123 [3s Qc 4d 3d]magic711 foldsjepniinjust foldsctpkr calls $0.50Shelly1024: thats fulltiltmissshapes calls $0.50Shelly1024 calls $0.25Simo123 checks*** FLOP *** [As 3h Ad]Shelly1024 checksSimo123 bets $2ctpkr foldsmissshapes has 15 seconds left to actmissshapes calls $2Shelly1024 folds*** TURN *** [As 3h Ad] [7d]Simo123 bets $6missshapes raises to $15, and is all inSimo123 calls $9missshapes shows [3c Qh Jh Ah]Simo123 shows [3s Qc 4d 3d]*** RIVER *** [As 3h Ad 7d] [6d]missshapes shows a full house, Aces full of ThreesSimo123 shows a full house, Threes full of Acesmissshapes wins the pot ($34.20) with a full house, Aces full of Threes

[BudBundy 0]

Blind battles are so profitable.Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.505 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $61.75CO: $74.90Button: $46.75SB: $66.35Hero: $49.25Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 5 3 3 8 3 folds, SB raises to $1.5, Hero calls.Flop: 5 J 3 ($3, 2 players)SB bets $2, Hero raises to $9, SB calls.Turn: K ($21, 2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $21, SB raises to $52.5, Hero calls all-in $17.75.Uncalled bets: $13.75 returned to SB.River: 9 ($98.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $98.5)Results:Final pot: $98.5Hero showed 5c 3c 3s 8sSB showed 6h As Ad Qh

[simo_8ball 0]

How do you play his hand?I like his preflop and flop play. I probably c/c turn and fold river ui.