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[bassplayer45459 0]

I had him pegged at 23% to win, but my math is very simple 11 outs * 2 + 2 = 24

[BudBundy 0]

I love 50$ PLO I :Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.506 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $142.40UTG+1: $179.35CO: $34.05Button: $48.20SB: $148.40Hero: $49Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with J A A 3 UTG raises to $1, 4 folds, Hero calls.Flop: A 8 K ($2.25, 2 players)Hero checks, UTG bets $2.25, Hero raises to $6, UTG calls.Turn: A ($14.25, 2 players)Hero checks, UTG checks.River: Q ($14.25, 2 players)Hero bets $8.5, UTG raises to $17, Hero raises to $45.5, UTG calls.Results:Final pot: $105.25Hero showed Jd Ad Ah 3dUTG mucks 8c Kh Ts Ks**************I love 50$ PLO II (Same guy) : Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.506 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $112.75Hero: $88.65CO: $86.50Button: $175.85SB: $35.20BB: $70.70Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with A 8 A 8 UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.75, CO raises to $6, 3 folds, Hero raises to $20.5, CO calls.Flop: 4 6 A ($41.75, 2 players)Hero bets $38.25, CO raises all-in $67.75, Hero calls.Turn: 9 ($177.25, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $177.25)River: 6 ($177.25, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $177.25)Results:Final pot: $177.25Hero showed Ah 8d As 8sCO showed 4h 8h 9c 4sMy preflop repot is questionable yeah? I just felt that he got fed up with my preflop raises and his was a re-raise out of anger.*****************I don't hate 100$ PLO either.POW (Pay off wizard) I :Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$15 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $194.25CO: $113.50Hero: $100.70SB: $91.30BB: $37Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with K 9 8 T UTG calls, Hero calls, SB calls, BB checks.Flop: K K T ($4, 5 players)SB bets $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $16, SB raises to $32, Hero raises to $104, SB calls all-in $90.3, Hero calls.Turn: 2 ($248.6, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $248.6)River: Q ($248.6, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $248.6)Results:Final pot: $248.6Hero showed Ks 9c 8s ThSB showed 6s 6h 9h KdI should have raised preflop. On flop , he had like %2 chance lol.*****************POW II :Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$16 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $138.30UTG+1: $79.45CO: $44.60Button: $79.80SB: $68.45Hero: $98.50Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A 9 Q T UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, SB calls, Hero checks.Flop: 4 6 7 ($5, 6 players)SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks.Turn: 2 ($5, 6 players)SB bets $2.5, Hero calls.River: K ($10, 3 players)SB checks, Hero bets $6, SB raises to $12, Hero raises to $52, SB calls.Results:Final pot: $114Hero showed Ac 9c Qs TdSB mucks 8d Qc 5c 6h**************************I am getting my share of bad beats , but UTG + 1 still calls two people with K high flush!!!!!!Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$16 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $47.25UTG+1: $176.80CO: $45.10Button: $74.05SB: $102.05Hero: $137.75Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 2 A 9 4 UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero checks.Flop: J 8 K ($5, 5 players)SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $5, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, SB calls, Hero calls.Turn: 9 ($25, 4 players)SB checks, Hero bets $20, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, SB folds.River: 6 ($85, 3 players)Hero bets $38, UTG calls all-in $21.25, UTG+1 calls.Results:Final pot: $182.25Hero showed 2c Ac 9h 4sUTG showed Tc 7s Kd QcUTG+1 mucks Kc As 4c 7d*******************A hand that i am not proud of. Any analyze is welcomed.Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$16 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $67.80UTG+1: $144.05Hero: $109.75Button: $99.85SB: $120.95BB: $92.40Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with A Q J A UTG raises to $3.5, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $12, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG calls.Flop: 8 Q 4 ($37.5, 3 players)UTG bets $37.5, Hero raises all-in $97.75, Button folds, UTG calls all-in $18.3.Uncalled bets: $41.95 returned to Hero. Turn: T ($149.1, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $149.1)River: 7 ($149.1, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $149.1)Results:Final pot: $149.1UTG showed Tc Qs Ac 3hHero showed Ad Qd Js Ah******************

[simo_8ball 0]

Graphaments?

[BudBundy 0]

I am scared to post graphs. I am guessing i am running good and whenever i post results of a good run , a bad run starts.I will post them after i survive the inevitable downswing which is quite soon as i can feel.Yeah i am a little supersitious.

[BudBundy 0]

**** it , lol.My summer school ended last week so i am playing fully focused for the last 5 days. I am not playing many hands but i m playing quite concentrated. My 5 days so far.50$ PLO :100$ PLO :All limits :Finally my whole month :lol last graph looks funny.So i played quite seriously for the last 5 days. Tomorow morning i am going to the summer house probably for the last time this summer. When i am back on monday , i will fully focus on poker and nothing else for a whole month. Hopefully i will be playing 200$ PLO with +50 buy-ins by next month.

[simo_8ball 0]

Wow, you run g00t. You play g00t as well, but those last 5k hands are pretty sick.

[BudBundy 0]

Wow, you run g00t. You play g00t as well, but those last 5k hands are pretty sick.

Yeah i feel like i am doing both. I mean i am putting my money in as a favourite most of the time. But i can't deny that i won 2 or 3 %30 %70 as a %30 dog during those 5k hands. But i don't know if they should be counted as running good because they called me with the hands they should have folded. Even though i put my money in as a dog , i can't see any other way to play those hands. I ll try to find one of them right now.Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$15 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $82.40CO: $50Hero: $163.30SB: $124.05BB: $6.40Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with 4 6 5 7 UTG, folds, CO (poster) checks, Hero raises to $4.5, 2 folds, CO calls.Flop: 5 7 4 ($10.5, 2 players)CO checks, Hero bets $9, CO raises to $37.5, Hero raises to $75, CO calls all-in $8.Uncalled bets: $29.5 returned to Hero. Turn: 7 ($101.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $101.5)River: T ($101.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $101.5)Results:Final pot: $101.5CO showed 8s Kd Jh 6cHero showed 4s 6s 5c 7dThis one for example. Any other way to play this?And there are hands like this :Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.505 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $18.60Hero: $84.60Button: $168.25SB: $19.50BB: $47.10Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 8 7 7 9 UTG folds, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB raises to $2.5, Hero calls, Button calls, SB folds.Flop: 7 5 Q ($8, 3 players)BB checks, Hero bets $6, Button folds, BB calls.Turn: 6 ($20, 2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $17, BB calls.River: 9 ($54, 2 players)BB is all-in $21.6, Hero calls.Results:Final pot: $97.2BB showed Qc 2h Qh 2sHero showed 8c 7h 7s 9s****For example this is a hand where i think i misplayed :Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$16 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $89.80UTG+1: $54.25Hero: $103Button: $146.45SB: $31.35BB: $57Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 7 Q 2 Q UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, Button raises to $5.5, 3 folds, Hero calls.Flop: T 2 7 ($13.5, 2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $13.5, Hero raises to $54, Button raises all-in $140.95, Hero calls all-in $43.5.Uncalled bets: $43.45 returned to Button.Turn: 2 ($208.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $208.5)River: T ($208.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $208.5)Results:Final pot: $208.5Button showed Ah Ac 9c 6dHero showed 7h Qd 2d QhI wasn't expecting a call here. Rainbow flop , only one draw out there. T987 was the only hand i feared. But still i think i pushed it too hard. I should probably folded preflop.******This is a hand i completely ****ed up. It is embarrising that i managed to put my money in with %17Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$15 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $35.20CO: $103.05Button: $169.20Hero: $162.30BB: $100Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with 7 5 8 9 UTG folds, CO raises to $3.5, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.Flop: Q 4 6 ($14, 4 players)Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets $14, Button calls, Hero calls, BB raises to $82, CO raises all-in $99.55, Button folds, Hero calls, BB calls all-in $14.5.Turn: K ($241.1, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $317.5)River: 2 ($241.1, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $317.5)Results:Final pot: $241.1BB showed 3d Kh 4c KcCO showed 5s Qs Qd 5dHero showed 7s 5h 8d 9c

[BudBundy 0]

Ok i am done you can start posting lol

[simo_8ball 0]

Ok, I typed this out, and I think it's probably a good indication, but then I realised that those hands will obviously show a huge loss compared to sklansky and showdown, because I'm almost always folding when I have very little, giving up sklansky bucks (losing a small pot each time):========================================================================="After searching and searching for where my leak is, I have found it. I am absolutely spewing in small pots with one pair or with high card. I mean I'm THROWING money away. It's adding up to a huge amount."===============================================================================Basically I've just filtered to show all the hands I'm calling preflop and folding on the flop, or the hands where I'm giving up my blinds. I really thought I was onto something big there. Maybe I am. Can anyone else (iggy, bud, bdc) create a graph with the same parameters and double check for me?This is where I need more knowledge of graph interpretation.If I filter to where I either call, raise or bet the flop, I'm doing very good. If I filter to where I raise preflop I'm doing very good.

[iggymcfly 0]

Meh, I wouldn't make too much out of this. You're basically just filtering for pots you lost here as you're looking for when you have the worst hands possible (pair or high card), and by putting it between -5 and 5 net, you're filtering out even more hands that you won and less that you lost. I couldn't even find a "net won" filter but looking at "final pot size between 0 and 10" with a pair or worse, I lost 8 BB/100 (4 equity adjusted).I tried filtering just by pot size and that was a little bit more interesting as it showed that I was winning a lot in the small pots, losing in the medium pots, and then winning a lot in the big pots, but that was pretty much expected as I generally C-bet quite a bit, lose a medium pot when I get raised and have nothing, but then when I actually have a big hand when I get raised, I tend to win a big pot since people aren't giving me credit. I could give the individual numbers, but they don't seem to be statistically significant as I'd get things like 15 BB/100 actual winnings and -8 BB/100 expected within a given group.Also, one thing I keep wondering is are the Sklansky bucks really supposed to converge to showdown winnings? I think that as a good aggressive player, I can often steal the river when I miss, leading to no Sklansky bucks being shown in the transaction whereas when I catch a hand and just play to get called, then it comes across as a bigger "suckout" than it was when I had other cards I could have stolen on. I think there might be enough of a systematic flaw that way that my showdown winnings will always be somewhat higher than my Sklansky bucks. Are your Sklansky bucks still higher than your showdown winnings Simo or have they evened out by now?

[simo_8ball 0]

I'm not playing PLO for the moment. I've got a 250 sng bet with bdc30 and rogerwilco, so I'm trying to plough through that quickly.I figured a week or two away from playing PLO is worthwhile. I'm enjoying playing holdem for the moment.I think I have a leak somewhere in my PLO game, but every single filter I use, and every hand I look back at seems reasonable. I would post hands if I didn't know what to do, or if I thought it was a real mistake.Total<<Showdown<<Sklansky for this month (only 5k hands though). That suggests I'm unnecessarily losing money in non-showdown hands on top of running pretty bad, but it's too small a sample size.Most of the filters I look at seems to show Total=Showdown<<<Sklansky. I'm playing draws well, I'm playing made hands well, I think I'm just losing money with unnecessarily weak hands. Ill-timed bluffs and the like.When I get back to PLO I'll just try to put in a ton of hands and see what happens.

[BigMurr01 0]

Anyone else kinda feel like a jackass when this happens? (Didn't raise pre-flop cuz everyone had been limping for almost the past hour, didn't wanna scare anyone away, was fine with folding if I didn't hit)Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.256 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $9.75UTG+1: $56.55Hero: $28.15Button: $10.45SB: $16BB: $27.10Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 8 8 A A 2 folds, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB checks.Flop: J 3 8 ($1, 4 players)SB bets $0.25, BB folds, Hero raises to $1, Button raises to $1.75, SB calls, Hero raises to $9, Button raises all-in $10.2, SB folds, Hero calls.Turn: 9 ($23.15, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $23.15)River: A ($23.15, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $23.15)Results:Final pot: $23.15Hero showed 8c 8h Ac AhButton showed Js 9h Kc Jh

[iggymcfly 0]

FTR, everyone winning player or not, will have showdown winnings that are significantly higher than their total winnings. This is because your non-showdown hands include all the hands that went to showdown between other people that you folded after investing money in the pot. Just the fact that you had a hand good enough to go to showdown with is going to skew your sample up. If you can keep your non-showdown hands anywhere near breakeven, you're doing a great job.

[kkot 0]

What do you guys look for when taking notes in PLO?How similar is notetaking to NLHE?

[bdc30 0]

I heart having the nuts on every street and getting action...Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.256 playersConverterStack sizes:Hero: $28.55UTG+1: $34CO: $19.80Button: $24.30SB: $20.20BB: $56.15Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with 4 A Q J Hero calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB checks.Flop: K T 9 ($1.25, 5 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.25, CO folds, Button calls, 2 folds.Turn: 2 ($3.75, 2 players)Hero bets $3.75, Button calls.River: 8 ($11.25, 2 players)Hero bets $11.25, Button raises all-in $19.05, Hero calls.Results:Final pot: $49.35Hero showed 4s As Qh JhButton showed Kh 5s Qs Js

[bdc30 0]

Fuk. I was almost back to the original amount I deposited. Then this.Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.256 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $30.50Hero: $30.65CO: $13.70Button: $24.70SB: $26.25BB: $67.60Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with A 3 A 2 UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.85, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB raises to $1.45, Hero raises to $6.15, Button folds, BB calls.Flop: J 8 4 ($13.25, 2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $11.55, BB raises to $23.1, Hero raises all-in $25.35, BB calls.Turn: T ($63.95, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $63.95)River: Q ($63.95, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $63.95)Results:Final pot: $63.95BB showed Qh Jh Jc TcHero showed Ac 3s As 2cCheck flop? ARRRRRGH.

[bdc30 0]

Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.255 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $84.90CO: $24.35Hero: $45.60SB: $34.10BB: $14.05Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with 5 8 7 4 UTG calls, CO raises to $1.1, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.Flop: 2 3 6 ($5.5, 5 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO bets $2.75, Hero raises to $13.75,

[simo_8ball 0]

Fuk. I was almost back to the original amount I deposited. Then this.Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.256 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $30.50Hero: $30.65CO: $13.70Button: $24.70SB: $26.25BB: $67.60Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with A 3 A 2 UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.85, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB raises to $1.45, Hero raises to $6.15, Button folds, BB calls.Flop: J 8 4 ($13.25, 2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $11.55, BB raises to $23.1, Hero raises all-in $25.35, BB calls.Turn: T ($63.95, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $63.95)River: Q ($63.95, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $63.95)Results:Final pot: $63.95BB showed Qh Jh Jc TcHero showed Ac 3s As 2cCheck flop? ARRRRRGH.

Bet smaller on the flop.fold to the raise.

[iggymcfly 0]

Meh, I usually just get it in at this point. We've got the BDFD and we're very live against a lot of hands that C/R the flop. Betting less than pot on the flop makes it too easy for Jxxx to make a move on us.

[bdc30 0]

Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.256 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $10.50UTG+1: $34.20Hero: $33.55Button: $22.80SB: $26.35BB: $16.10Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with A Q 4 8 UTG calls, UTG+1 raises to $0.5, Hero calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.Flop: 6 Q 5 ($2.5, 5 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2.5, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.Turn: 8 ($10, 3 players)SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $10, SB calls, UTG folds.River: K ($30, 2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $16.75, SB folds.Uncalled bets: $16.75 returned to Hero. Results:Final pot: $30

[simo_8ball 0]

Fold preflop. AQ84ss is junk and you damn well know it.

[bdc30 0]

I do. I'm focusing super-hard today on positional play and have opened up my range against preflop raisers.(but I agree, this hand is crap)

[bdc30 0]

I really feel like I'm getting it together. Thanks Bud, Simo and Iggy for being patient with me. Hopefully in a few months, I'll be ballin it at 50-100 with you Bundy. That thread about playing hands OOP has totally changed my outlook this last two days. I've played two sessions, and the numbers have come in at 24/9/3 and I made 12BB/100. I'm playing much more aggro IN position and folding a lot of hands OOP that I normally would have been playing poorly and passively. Here's my last two days, and the week as a whole. My actual profit is still higher than my equity, apparently -- and I still struggle to understand what this means -- am I playing WELL - making more out of my cards than average, or POORLY and getting lucky where I don't have the right odds??

[bdc30 0]

Nice turn card. Fk.Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.256 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $36.50UTG+1: $15.05CO: $20.05Button: $28.50Hero: $24.75BB: $7.20Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with 5 K T A UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB checks.Flop: 5 9 7 ($1.5, 6 players)Hero bets $1.5, 3 folds, CO calls, Button calls.Turn: 9 ($6, 3 players)Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.River: Q ($6, 3 players)Hero checks, CO bets $3.25, Button folds, Hero calls.Results:Final pot: $12.5CO showed 7c 8c Ts 7hHero mucks 5c Kd Th Ad

[bdc30 0]

He has FOUR hearts, and pushes with a flush draw, OF course it hits, fk me.Gonna be one of those days.Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.255 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $25.50CO: $12.70Button: $8.75Hero: $26.25BB: $10Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with J Q A J UTG raises to $0.85, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls, BB calls.Flop: Q 3 J ($3.4, 4 players)Hero bets $3.4, BB calls, 2 folds.Turn: 9 ($10.2, 2 players)Hero checks, BB is all-in $5.75, Hero calls.River: 6 ($21.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $21.7)Results:Final pot: $21.7Hero showed Jc Qd Ac JdBB showed Kh Ah 4h 2h