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[DonkSlayer 1]

I've played a live PLO tournament and needless to say the play was horrendous. "I have to use two of my cards?"

Where do you play live, living in Charlotte? I'm down there sometimes for work.

[CoolHandPuke 0]

Where do you play live, living in Charlotte? I'm down there sometimes for work.

The PLO tournament I played was in Vegas a couple years ago. The only live poker I get to play is the once or twice a year trip to AC or Mississippi. When I was a little younger I'd play home games around the UNCC campus, but those ran a high risk of getting shut down so now that I'm older with a family I tend to avoid them.

[meservery 0]

This was fun.PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comBB ($29.45)UTG ($11.45)Hero (MP) ($32.25)Button ($19.75)SB ($8.10)Preflop: Hero is MP with 7 , 7 , 10 , 9 :diamond:UTG calls $0.25, Hero bets $1.10, Button calls $1.10, SB calls $1, BB calls $0.85, UTG calls $0.85Flop: ($5.50) 5 , 6 , 8 (5 players)SB checks, BB bets $5.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $5.25, Button calls $5.25, SB raises to $7 (All-In), BB calls $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, Button calls $1.75Turn: ($33.50) 7 (4 players, 1 all-in)BB bets $21.35 (All-In), Hero raises to $24.15 (All-In), Button calls $11.65 (All-In)River: ($87.85) 4 (4 players, 4 all-in)Total pot: $87.85 | Rake: $2Results:Button had 4 , 10 , A , Q (flush, Ace high).SB had 8 , 5 , A , K (straight, eight high).BB had J , 7 , 9 , A (flush, Jack high).Hero had 7 , 7 , 10 , 9 (straight, ten high).Outcome: Button won $66.45, BB won $19.40Lots of clubs in this deck.

[meservery 0]

Misreading the board is fun.PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comBB ($25)UTG ($57.75)MP ($21.90)CO ($25)Hero (Button) ($32.80)SB ($48.10)Preflop: Hero is Button with 8 , J , 6 , K :diamond:UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero bets $1.10, SB raises to $3.80, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.70Flop: ($8.10) 9 , 3 , 10 (2 players)SB bets $7.70, Hero calls $7.70Turn: ($23.50) 5 (2 players)SB bets $22.35, Hero calls $21.30 (All-In)River: ($66.10) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)Total pot: $66.10 | Rake: $3Results:Hero had 8 , J , 6 , K (one pair, tens).SB had A , A , 7 , 8 (two pair, Aces and tens).Outcome: SB won $63.10

[meservery 0]

But this was the most fun.PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comHero (Button) ($32)SB ($24.75)BB ($16.75)UTG ($39.05)MP ($32.75)Preflop: Hero is Button with 9 , A , A , 4 :heart:UTG calls $0.25, MP bets $0.50, Hero raises to $2.10, 1 fold, BB raises to $3.70, 1 fold, MP calls $3.20, Hero raises to $15.15, BB calls $11.45, MP calls $11.45Flop: ($45.80) 4 , 4 , J (3 players)BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $16.85 (All-In), BB calls $1.60 (All-In), MP calls $16.85Turn: ($81.10) J (3 players, 2 all-in)River: ($81.10) K (3 players, 2 all-in)Total pot: $81.10 | Rake: $2Results:Hero had 9 , A , A , 4 (three of a kind, fours).BB had 10 , 5 , 2 , K (two pair, Kings and Jacks).MP had K , K , 7 , 7 (full house, Kings over Jacks).Outcome: MP won $79.10

[trystero 0]

omaha equity always amazes meI bet/called with [ A Q Q 4 ]against[ J 9 T 6 ]on a board of[ 2 T 5 9 ]thought I'd have like 40% equity, turns out it's 64% :icon_eek:oddly enough, I had LESS equity on the flop before villain hit his two pair...

[simo_8ball 0]

omaha equity always amazes meI bet/called with [ A Q Q 4 ]against[ J 9 T 6 ]on a board of[ 2 T 5 9 ]thought I'd have like 40% equity, turns out it's 64% oddly enough, I had LESS equity on the flop before villain hit his two pair...

You must have made a mistake with the inputs.http://www.propokertools.com/simulator/sim...amp;h4=&h5=

[trystero 0]

yup, not sure what I typed wrongI should trust my on the spot calculating skillz

[trystero 0]

simo, write about PLO now

[trystero 0]

bluff catching: no point

[simo_8ball 0]

bluff catching: no point

Wish I could learn to stop bluffcatching.$1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi3 PlayersHand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:BTN ($654.55) SB ($79.25) Hero (BB) ($410.25) Pre-Flop: ($3, 3 players) Hero is BB BTN raises to $7, SB folds, Hero raises to $22, BTN calls $15Flop: ($45, 2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $45, Hero calls $45Turn: ($135, 2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $96, Hero calls $96River: ($327, 2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $327, Hero goes all-in $247.25Final Pot: $901.25BTN shows (Full house queens full of sixes) :D :6dHero shows:ad :jdBTN wins $819.50 ( won +$329.50 ) Hero lost -$410.25

[RISEorFall 0]

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha Tournament, 40/80 Blinds (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comMP1 (t6330)MP2 (t3910)MP3 (t4085)CO (t7098)Button (t2260)SB (t5270)BB (t1476)Hero (UTG) (t2840)UTG+1 (t4105)Hero's M: 23.67Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q , 8 , 10 , K :heart:Hero calls t80, UTG+1 calls t80, MP1 calls t80, 1 fold, MP3 calls t80, CO calls t80, 1 fold, SB calls t40, BB checksFlop: (t560) 3 , J , Q (7 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, CO bets t560, 2 folds, Hero calls t560, 3 foldsTurn: (t1680) 9 (2 players)Hero checks, CO bets t1680, Hero raises to t2200 (All-In), CO calls t520River: (t6080) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)Total pot: t6080Results:Hero had Q , 8 , 10 , K (straight, King high).CO had K , Q , 4 , 9 (full house, Queens over nines).Outcome: CO won t6080i probably played this badly. in a ring game id push harder on the flop. pot control has been working decent for me in these where people are literally raising any 4 all the time. still.

[trystero 0]

PLO nits are so weirdthey won't raise on the turn or river w/the second nuts, but they'll go absolutely berserk when holding AAxx irrespective of board. it's like they categorize poker hands like this,AARoyal/SFQuadsFH...

[meservery 0]

PLO nits are so weirdthey won't raise on the turn or river w/the second nuts, but they'll go absolutely berserk when holding AAxx irrespective of board. it's like they categorize poker hands like this,AARoyal/SFQuadsFH...

I wouldnt call myself a nit (just bad). But I find myself in situations, usually OOP, where I have the best hand but a terrible redraw and I play it super slow.In other cases, I'll have like a weak pair and a flush draw, against suspected AAxx and I go absolutely bat shit crazy and get it in.

[BudBundy 0]

hi

[RISEorFall 0]

in general, should i be throwing away KKxx where xx are not suited or connected like KK37 no suits?i figured the hand basically sucks unless we hit a K, so ive been ditching it (except like LP with a few limpers sometimes)then i came across something last night that said to basically never fold AAxx or KKxx

[meservery 0]

hi

multipass?

[meservery 0]

in general, should i be throwing away KKxx where xx are not suited or connected like KK37 no suits?i figured the hand basically sucks unless we hit a K, so ive been ditching it (except like LP with a few limpers sometimes)then i came across something last night that said to basically never fold AAxx or KKxx

in 6 max i'll throw away crappy QQxx UTG, but dont think i ever throw away crappy KKxx first in.i'll also probably raise limpers with most KKxx and 3 bet MP or CO opens with most KKxx.

[MaxStPolish 4]

well that's a good way to spend a friday night...........NOT.PokerStars Game #34131369150: Tournament #203695608, $4.00+$0.40 USD Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level XX (900/1800) - 2009/10/16 23:10:29 ETTable '203695608 38' 9-max Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: DidaceV (23354 in chips) Seat 2: YoTout (11064 in chips) Seat 3: Locksly (47010 in chips) Seat 4: BillyGoatGrf (33098 in chips) Seat 5: Luck Donkey (80591 in chips) Seat 6: amadare000 (24798 in chips) is sitting outSeat 8: MaxStPolish (39626 in chips) Seat 9: Mylauralie (3636 in chips) BillyGoatGrf: posts small blind 900Luck Donkey: posts big blind 1800*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to MaxStPolish [6s 5d 3s Ac]amadare000: folds MaxStPolish: calls 1800Mylauralie: folds DidaceV: folds YoTout: folds Locksly: folds BillyGoatGrf: calls 900Luck Donkey: checks *** FLOP *** [7c 8c 4h]BillyGoatGrf: checks Luck Donkey: bets 5400MaxStPolish: raises 16200 to 21600BillyGoatGrf: folds Luck Donkey: raises 48600 to 70200MaxStPolish: calls 16226 and is all-inUncalled bet (32374) returned to Luck Donkey*** TURN *** [7c 8c 4h] [6c]*** RIVER *** [7c 8c 4h 6c] [Ts]*** SHOW DOWN ***Luck Donkey: shows [2d As 9s 8h] (HI: a straight, Six to Ten; LO: 7,6,4,2,A)MaxStPolish: shows [6s 5d 3s Ac] (HI: a straight, Four to Eight; LO: 7,6,4,3,A)Luck Donkey collected 40526 from potLuck Donkey collected 40526 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 81052 | Rake 0 Board [7c 8c 4h 6c Ts]Seat 1: DidaceV folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: YoTout folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: Locksly (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: BillyGoatGrf (small blind) folded on the FlopSeat 5: Luck Donkey (big blind) showed [2d As 9s 8h] and won (81052) with HI: a straight, Six to Ten; LO: 7,6,4,2,ASeat 6: amadare000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: MaxStPolish showed [6s 5d 3s Ac] and lost with HI: a straight, Four to Eight; LO: 7,6,4,3,ASeat 9: Mylauralie folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[trystero 0]

the lowest point in my overall poker career:it was not,losing in HU Stud against my brother, who follows the monkey strategy of bet when the action's on him, regardless of texturegoing full speed ahead on razz (as everyone does at one point) in a HORSE tournament, realizing on 7th that I was playing stud hi, and I just wish I could open foldlosing 3 straight (not finishing in the money) NLHE SNGs to my relatives whose knowledge of poker, like my brother's, is limited to what's written on the Ace of Spades,it was,going broke at 6max 5plo. Granted I only had like $27 remaining online, so it's not as if I had much room to work with, but I'm putting this at the top. Had auto rebuy on and I noticed my stack would fill only to like $4.67. bustoI crown myself the forum's PLO Donk. Don't think in this past month I caught one bluff, made one successful nonnut value bet, and got paid on one nut hand. And this is 5plo so you know I must be doing all sorts of things wrong. Lost my last BI w/probably my only defensible hand of the whole run, limp/reraising AAxx and losing to rando clubs.

[meservery 0]

the lowest point in my overall poker career:it was not,losing in HU Stud against my brother, who follows the monkey strategy of bet when the action's on him, regardless of texturegoing full speed ahead on razz (as everyone does at one point) in a HORSE tournament, realizing on 7th that I was playing stud hi, and I just wish I could open foldlosing 3 straight (not finishing in the money) NLHE SNGs to my relatives whose knowledge of poker, like my brother's, is limited to what's written on the Ace of Spades,it was,going broke at 6max 5plo. Granted I only had like $27 remaining online, so it's not as if I had much room to work with, but I'm putting this at the top. Had auto rebuy on and I noticed my stack would fill only to like $4.67. bustoI crown myself the forum's PLO Donk. Don't think in this past month I caught one bluff, made one successful nonnut value bet, and got paid on one nut hand. And this is 5plo so you know I must be doing all sorts of things wrong. Lost my last BI w/probably my only defensible hand of the whole run, limp/reraising AAxx and losing to rando clubs.

Remind me to post my lifetime PLO graph some time. It's not pretty.

[trystero 0]

lol nevermind

[dingas 0]

in general, should i be throwing away KKxx where xx are not suited or connected like KK37 no suits?i figured the hand basically sucks unless we hit a K, so ive been ditching it (except like LP with a few limpers sometimes)then i came across something last night that said to basically never fold AAxx or KKxx

Making top set is very profitable when you hit it, and you are freerolling on the chance of making random full-house or quads with your side cards. If it's fairly deep stacked and I can get in cheap, I would not fold any KKxx. If it's short-stacked with most of the play preflop (for example, in a PLO tournament) you can dump it I think.

[RISEorFall 0]

some people say they tilt a lot playing omaha. i like playing omaha while im tilting. i can just mash the raise button and im never that big of an underdog. anyway, biggest pot ive won so far (and maybe one of the bigger ones ive ever won).Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comsaw flop | saw showdownMP1 ($56.15)MP2 ($75)CO ($165.35)Button ($98.50)Hero (SB) ($147.80)BB ($168.50)UTG ($246.70)UTG+1 ($278.35)Preflop: Hero is SB with 10 , J , Q , 8 :spade:UTG calls $1, UTG+1 checks, 1 fold, MP2 calls $1, CO calls $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50, BB checksFlop: ($6) 7 , 4 , 9 (6 players)Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $4, 1 fold, MP2 calls $4, CO calls $4, Hero calls $4, BB calls $4Turn: ($26) 6 (5 players)Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, CO bets $26.50, Hero raises to $106, 1 fold, UTG raises to $241.70 (All-In), 1 fold, CO calls $133.85 (All-In), Hero calls $36.80 (All-In)River: ($489.50) 2 (3 players, 3 all-in)Total pot: $489.50 | Rake: $3Results:Hero had 10 , J , Q , 8 (straight, ten high).UTG had A , 7 , 9 , 9 (three of a kind, nines).CO had 8 , Q , 5 , 3 (straight, nine high).Outcome: Hero won $451.90, CO won $35.10had to dodge like 908 outs, but wooooooooooooo

[DonkSlayer 1]

FMLPokerStars Game #35265333488: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2009/11/12 15:11:22 ETTable 'Cyrene IV' 6-max Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 1: A1623 ($23 in chips) Seat 2: MisterVisa ($10.55 in chips) Seat 3: DeeKay8686 ($4.45 in chips) Seat 4: AA_mikki ($16.40 in chips) Seat 5: tgmaster ($10.70 in chips) Seat 6: JsBond ($4.30 in chips) tgmaster: posts small blind $0.05JsBond: posts big blind $0.10*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to JsBond [Kd Jd Qc Tc]A1623: raises $0.20 to $0.30MisterVisa: folds DeeKay8686: calls $0.30AA_mikki: calls $0.30tgmaster: folds JsBond: calls $0.20*** FLOP *** [Jh 2d Ts]JsBond: checks A1623: bets $1.10DeeKay8686: folds AA_mikki: folds JsBond: raises $2.90 to $4 and is all-inA1623: calls $2.90*** TURN *** [Jh 2d Ts] [2h]*** RIVER *** [Jh 2d Ts 2h] [2s]*** SHOW DOWN ***JsBond: shows [Kd Jd Qc Tc] (three of a kind, Deuces)A1623: shows [4c Ks Qs Th] (three of a kind, Deuces)JsBond collected $4.40 from potA1623 collected $4.40 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $9.25 | Rake $0.45 Board [Jh 2d Ts 2h 2s]Seat 1: A1623 showed [4c Ks Qs Th] and won ($4.40) with three of a kind, DeucesSeat 2: MisterVisa folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: DeeKay8686 folded on the FlopSeat 4: AA_mikki (button) folded on the FlopSeat 5: tgmaster (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 6: JsBond (big blind) showed [Kd Jd Qc Tc] and won ($4.40) with three of a kind, Deuces