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How does one overcome the "holy shit that's a lot of money" complex?By saying that I mean that while playing 0.25 right now, I don't really care if I lose to a pot sized bet in a pot that is $12. At the end of the day, it's $12.Once I'm playing at $100 and $200, and a guy shovels $90-$100-$110 in against me on the river, HOW the hell do you make that semi-marginal call? I guess that's what playing with proper br is all about but man... Right now, I can't see myself ever thinking of it that way.I wish the sites had a "BB only" option, where you could make ALL table buyins and stacks and bets in BB. There would be no dollar signs. Every time you bought in to whatever limit you were at, you buy in at "50BB". That would be something I'd use for SURE.
It comes with experience I guess, but like you said it has a ton to do with bankroll management. Its a weird situation because you want to be able to not think about the money but at the same time you dont want to completely lose all respect for money. You just want to try and never be results orientated and always just look at every decision by the percentages not the dollar signs, earlier in the day I lost a big pot when I got it in with a huge draw and bricked, I felt like sht because I could have slowed down and saved money when I lost instead of getting aggressive and losing a monster. That was me being results orientated and I knew that it was the right play but I just lost so oh well. I've heard it many times before and I do believe it, in order to be a good player even a great player you have to not think about the money your playing with.I am much better online then I am live, when I play live and have to make a 400 dollar call it is much much harder than online.
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Well as i said you don't depend on poker money so you don't have to be ridiculously overrolled to move up like me.I never deposited online , started with party 50$ and moved up from there so i am making a special effort to keep it that way. I also started trying to support myself with poker money. I don't pay rent or bills or stuff like that but you know drinks , clothes , vacations etc. For example i withdrew 2000$ a few days ago to pay 400$ school expense and a trip to Vienna - Budapest one month later in Ramadan Holiday(Obv brag post? lol).What i am saying is 35 buy ins should be enough for you if you are willing to move down. Move up to 100$ with 35 , if you lose 10 buyins drop down to 50$ and you will still have a safe 50 buyins for that level to grind it back.*****And about the big money complex , besides having a big bankroll , trying to focus on the right decision every hand helps. have the odds calculator open while playing and check the equites after every big pot you won or lost. It reduces tilt as well. Sometimes it feels like some guy put a huge bad beat on you but when you check the equites you see he is %40 on flop or had the pot odds to call.

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Here's a good fKing way to start a session -- lose a 90/10 right off the hop. That doesn't give you any tilt issues or anything.Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.256 playersConverterStack sizes:Hero: $23.90UTG+1: $24.75CO: $27.85Button: $14SB: $23BB: $7.25Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with J :club: T :D K :) J :) Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, CO raises to $1.35, 3 folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.Flop: 7 :) 4 :icon_dance: J :D ($4.4, 3 players)Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets $3.5, Hero raises to $14.9, UTG+1 folds, CO calls.Turn: 9 :D ($34.2, 2 players)Hero is all-in $7.65, CO calls.River: T :D ($49.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $49.5)Results:Final pot: $49.5Hero showed Js Tc Kc JcCO showed Ad Ah 8h Jd91/8 on the flop when he calls. What the fk more can I do here.http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3058914pokenum -o kc js jc tc - ad ah jd 8h -- 7c 4c jh Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing 7c 4c Jhcards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EVJs Kc Jc Tc 748 91.22 72 8.78 0 0.00 0.912Ad Jd Ah 8h 72 8.78 748 91.22 0 0.00 0.088

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0911kk5.jpgPretty boring routine ~650 hand session. That hand right at the start sorta set the tone. I actually had some monster hands (I think I hit quads 4 times in 600 hands) but always had the board crushed so bad when I'd get them, nobody would pay me off. /shrug. Trying to get gold ironman status this month and I'm well on my way to that. Still >5bb/100 for the month so that's good. Tomorrow's another (hopefully >20bb/100) day :club:
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Played a big pot, limped 4 way bb blind pots to 24 and I call knowing he has aces.He bet the pot of 120 and had 300 behind and I insta shoved on the button having him covered hoping he would lay down the aces but did'nt really mind if he called, he thought for a while and made a good call.fortunately I turned a clubhttp://twodimes.net/h/?z=3061783pokenum -o ac 7d 8c js - ah as 8s 8d -- 7c 3c 2d Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing 7c 3c 2dcards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EVJs Ac 8c 7d 429 52.32 391 47.68 0 0.00 0.523As 8s 8d Ah 391 47.68 429 52.32 0 0.00 0.477Quitting for now +1950. Jumped into a 5/10 game that had ridiculous value for about half an hour and felt good about my play, did'nt play scared which is my main fear playing in a game I don't frequent.

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Shoulda checked the river and let him bluff. Bah.Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.256 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $25.60UTG+1: $9.20Hero: $24.65Button: $47.15SB: $10.05BB: $26.15Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with K :) A :club: J :D T :)2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.Flop: 3 :D A :) 3 :icon_dance: ($3.4, 4 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.7, Button calls, 2 folds.Turn: 7 :D ($6.8, 2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $4.5, Hero calls.River: T :D ($15.8, 2 players)Hero bets $15.8, Button folds.Uncalled bets: $15.8 returned to Hero. Results:Final pot: $15.8

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Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.256 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $27.35Hero: $24.30CO: $14.95Button: $93.55SB: $21.35BB: $24.20Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with T :D 9 :club: J :) 8 :) UTG folds, Hero calls, CO calls, Button raises to $0.5, SB folds, BB calls, Hero calls, CO calls.Flop: 7 :D 2 :) 6 :D ($2.1, 4 players)BB bets $2.1, Hero calls, CO raises to $10.5, Button folds, BB calls, Hero calls.Turn: 6 :D ($33.6, 3 players)BB checks, Hero checks, CO is all-in $3.95, BB calls, Hero folds.yes? raise flop?

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Bah. Villain is 60/20 aggro donk -- knew he didn't have AA...sighFull Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.256 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $17.80UTG+1: $7.30CO: $48.60Button: $25.80SB: $26Hero: $36.60Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with J :D 8 :) T :D J :club:2 folds, CO raises to $0.85, 2 folds, Hero calls.Flop: 8 :) A :icon_dance: 8 :D ($1.8, 2 players)Hero checks, CO bets $1.25, Hero calls.Turn: 5 :D ($4.3, 2 players)Hero checks, CO checks.River: 2 :) ($4.3, 2 players)Hero bets $4.3, CO raises to $12.75, Hero calls.Results:Final pot: $29.8CO showed 8s Qh Ah 6sHero mucks Jh 8h Ts Jd

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Hooooow many outs can a guy brick, especially picking up flush draw on the turn.Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.255 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $87.95Hero: $48.20Button: $17.35SB: $25.20BB: $114Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with Q :club: T :D 9 :) A :D UTG calls, Hero calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB raises to $1.25, UTG calls, Hero calls, SB calls.Flop: K :) J :D 6 :) ($5, 4 players)SB checks, BB bets $4.5, UTG folds, Hero calls, SB raises to $23, BB folds, Hero raises to $46, SB calls all-in $0.95.Uncalled bets: $22.05 returned to Hero. Turn: 4 :D ($57.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $57.4)River: 3 :icon_dance: ($57.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $57.4)Results:Final pot: $57.4Hero showed Qd Ts 9c AdSB showed 5c Jh 8d Ks

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Man the poker gods work in mysterious ways.Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.255 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $30.15Hero: $43.55Button: $16.70SB: $67.25BB: $25Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with J :D K :D Q :D K :) UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.85, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.Flop: J :club: T :) 9 :D ($2.8, 3 players)SB checks, Hero bets $2.8, Button raises to $11.2, SB folds, Hero raises to $39.2, Button calls all-in $4.65.Uncalled bets: $23.35 returned to Hero. Turn: J :) ($34.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $34.5)River: A :icon_dance: ($34.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $34.5)Results:Final pot: $34.5Hero showed Jh Kh Qc Kc Button showed 8h 7h 7s KsWoo hoo!! Royal baby. As if the guy wasn't beaten badly enough on the flop with the ignorant end.

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Zomg. A draw. That actually HITS. I didn't know it was possible.Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.256 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $28.60UTG+1: $30.15Hero: $24.65Button: $17.55SB: $13.80BB: $68.10Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with J :) K :D 7 :) T :DUTG raises to $0.85, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.Flop: 9 :icon_dance: 2 :club: 8 :D ($4.25, 5 players)SB bets $4.25, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero raises to $21.25, Button folds, SB calls all-in $8.7, UTG folds.Uncalled bets: $8.3 returned to Hero. Turn: Q :D ($34.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $34.4)River: 5 :) ($34.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $34.4)Results:Final pot: $34.4Hero showed Jc Ks 7c TsSB showed 6s 4s 8h 8s

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Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.256 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $110.45Hero: $53.90CO: $24.65Button: $9.45SB: $11.45BB: $29Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 6 :D A :D A :club: K :D UTG calls, Hero raises to $1.1, CO calls, 3 folds, UTG raises to $5, Hero raises to $16.8, CO raises all-in $24.65, UTG calls, Hero calls.Flop: 8 :) T :) Q :icon_dance: ($74.3, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $74.3)UTG checks, Hero is all-in $29.25.Uncalled bets: $29.25 returned to Hero. Turn: 8 :D ($74.3, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $74.3)River: 5 :) ($74.3, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $74.3)Results:Final pot: $74.3CO showed Js Qd Jd KsHero showed 6s As Ad Kd

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On this coordinated a board, doesn't someone HAVE to bet ??? /sigh...lolFull Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.255 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $14.85CO: $106.20Button: $28.05Hero: $27.65BB: $17.10Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with 6 :club: 3 :icon_dance: 9 :) 7 :D UTG folds, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB checks.Flop: 8 :) 8 :D 5 :D ($1, 4 players)Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks, Button bets $0.75, Hero calls, BB folds, CO calls.Turn: 9 :) ($3.25, 3 players)Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets $1.6, Hero calls, CO calls.River: 9 :D ($8.05, 3 players)Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.Results:Final pot: $8.05Button showed Td 8h Jh 4cHero showed 6d 3c 9h 7dCO mucks Js Jd 4h Qs

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COMMMMMMMME ON. How do I miss here?Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.255 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $46.50CO: $26.35Hero: $24.50SB: $49.75BB: $32.95Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with 4 :D 8 :D 5 :) 7 :) UTG calls, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.1, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds.Flop: A :) 6 :icon_dance: 3 :club: ($2.55, 2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $2.55, BB raises to $6.35, Hero raises to $24.15, BB raises all-in $31.85, Hero calls all-in $1.8.Uncalled bets: $5.9 returned to BB.Turn: K :D ($54.45, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $54.45)River: Q :D ($54.45, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $54.45)Results:Final pot: $54.45BB showed Qs Ah 2s AdHero showed 4h 8c 5c 7c

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but...then this guy pays me off here...poker is a fkin weird game.Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.255 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $26.90CO: $8.65Button: $27.10SB: $82.65Hero: $99Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 7 :) J :D 8 :) 2 :club:3 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.Flop: T :D 9 :D 7 :D ($0.5, 2 players)SB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $2, SB calls.Turn: 4 :icon_dance: ($4.5, 2 players)SB bets $4.5, Hero calls.River: 6 :) ($13.5, 2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $13.5, SB calls.Results:Final pot: $40.5Hero showed 7h Js 8h 2dSB mucks Tc 8s 6c 3h

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ok quick.I play the WCOOP 6-max PLO in 26 hours. Someone tell me how to play PLO!
You're joking. No, really, you're joking. Why/how? If you're buying in yourself you're an idiot (you don't know PLO well enough obv) and if you're being staked he is an idiot. Or overly rich.
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Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.256 playersConverterStack sizes:Hero: $116UTG+1: $53.45CO: $22.20Button: $0SB: $18.65BB: $34.25Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with K :club: J :D 3 :D Q :D Hero calls, 2 folds, SB calls, BB raises to $1, Hero calls, SB calls.Flop: 7 :) A :D T :icon_dance: ($3, 4 players)SB checks, BB bets $3, Hero calls.Turn: Q :) ($9, 3 players)BB bets $9, Hero raises to $36, BB calls all-in $21.25.Uncalled bets: $5.75 returned to Hero. River: K :) ($75.25, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $69.5, Sidepot 1: $5.75)Results:Final pot: $75.25BB showed Ah 8h Ad 6cHero showed Kd Js 3s Qd

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You're joking. No, really, you're joking. Why/how? If you're buying in yourself you're an idiot (you don't know PLO well enough obv) and if you're being staked he is an idiot. Or overly rich.
Shhhh...I'm not buying myself in.But, I do know quite a bit about PLO. I think.I'm just quite rusty. I do read this forum the most out of the non LHE/SHLHE forums.
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Shhhh...I'm not buying myself in.But, I do know quite a bit about PLO. I think.I'm just quite rusty. I do read this forum the most out of the non LHE/SHLHE forums.
http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...showtopic=66345:-)Nut outs are less important in 6-max than full ring. Don't overplay big pair + junk hands. Those are speculative hands -- you need to hit top set AND your opponent to hit top-two or a set. Play hands that make straights. Play double suited hands that makes straights aggressively.
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