loogie 115 Posted November 8, 2009 Author Share Posted November 8, 2009 8-0 Link to post Share on other sites
Canary3 1 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 We looked like the best team in football in the first quarter. Ugly win, but it's a win! Link to post Share on other sites
viva la cam 0 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 all my teams won today!!!! **** yeah!! well i have 3 teams .... Link to post Share on other sites
loogie 115 Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 explosions, etc... Link to post Share on other sites
SAM_Hard8 50 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 GO COLTS! Link to post Share on other sites
Flushgarden 0 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Great game. It's like you hit a 2 outer in the river. Congrats Colts fans. Hopefully these two teams can do it again in the AFCCG. Link to post Share on other sites
loogie 115 Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 9-0My eyeballs are still at the bar rolling around on the floor somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites
SAM_Hard8 50 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Great game. It's like you hit a 2 outer in the river. Congrats Colts fans. Hopefully these two teams can do it again in the AFCCG.more like they folded the winner.GO COLTS! Link to post Share on other sites
Flushgarden 0 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 more like they folded the winner.Meh...it seems really horrible, it really wasnt that bad of a call. They can pick it up there 80% of the time and then the game is over. If they punt the Colts would still have all the time in the world. The thing that was disheartening was the wasting of the timeouts and not being able to challenge the spot. I really think he got possession and came down at the marker. It was spotted as if he didn't get possession until he was already on the ground. Anyway, it's not that huge of a deal. The Patriots have proven they can go into Indy and at least put themselves in a position to win. They'll get another chance in January. If they can't win then, then they don't deserve the Superbowl anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
GeneralGeeWhiz 0 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Meh...it seems really horrible, it really wasnt that bad of a call. They can pick it up there 80% of the time and then the game is over. If they punt the Colts would still have all the time in the world. The thing that was disheartening was the wasting of the timeouts and not being able to challenge the spot. I really think he got possession and came down at the marker. It was spotted as if he didn't get possession until he was already on the ground. Anyway, it's not that huge of a deal. The Patriots have proven they can go into Indy and at least put themselves in a position to win. They'll get another chance in January. If they can't win then, then they don't deserve the Superbowl anyway.no, it was bad. he obv has ZERO faith in his defense. Link to post Share on other sites
Flushgarden 0 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 no, it was bad. he obv has ZERO faith in his defense.So are you saying he should have had more faith in his defense? He knows his defense better than you or I, and I feel I am in no position to question his assessment of their ability to stop the Colts in that particular situation.What was bad was the situation.These are just estimates (they should be pretty close to reality), but lets think about it this way:Patriots punt, the Colts have a 55% chance of scoring a TD and winning the game.Patriots go on 4th down and:-have an 80% chance of converting which ends the game-miss, and the Colts now have a 75% chance of scoring a TDSo they have an 80% chance to win the game there, and if they miss the Colts chances only improve by 20%.What is the better option? Link to post Share on other sites
Poppy_Hillis 11 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I guess that game is being discussed here...Well, Belichick is a stud for a going for it in that spot. Only coach ever who would do that, in that game. Love it. Definitely an "I'm Keith Hernandez" moment. Link to post Share on other sites
mrpaddyx 13 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Clearly it was a 1st down! Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 So are you saying he should have had more faith in his defense? He knows his defense better than you or I, and I feel I am in no position to question his assessment of their ability to stop the Colts in that particular situation.What was bad was the situation.These are just estimates (they should be pretty close to reality), but lets think about it this way:Patriots punt, the Colts have a 55% chance of scoring a TD and winning the game.Patriots go on 4th down and:-have an 80% chance of converting which ends the game-miss, and the Colts now have a 75% chance of scoring a TDSo they have an 80% chance to win the game there, and if they miss the Colts chances only improve by 20%.What is the better option?I would move the chances the Colts score if the Pats punt up. I give Manning about 75% to score from 70 yards away. He has earned that respect.This would be all academic if the official had not blown the spot. Link to post Share on other sites
loogie 115 Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 Clearly it was a 1st down!Clearly? Link to post Share on other sites
mrpaddyx 13 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Clearly?Well he had possesion beyond the distance needed for a 1st down. Athough being a Patriots fan I am probably biased! Link to post Share on other sites
loogie 115 Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 Well he had possesion beyond the distance needed for a 1st down. Athough being a Patriots fan I am probably biased!He was juggling the ball. That's not possession. I think the pass interference that Austin Collie massaged out of the ref is a more valid complaint than Faulk's catch. Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyJoJo 18 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Meh...it seems really horrible, it really wasnt that bad of a call. They can pick it up there 80% of the time and then the game is over. If they punt the Colts would still have all the time in the world. The thing that was disheartening was the wasting of the timeouts and not being able to challenge the spot. I really think he got possession and came down at the marker. It was spotted as if he didn't get possession until he was already on the ground. Anyway, it's not that huge of a deal. The Patriots have proven they can go into Indy and at least put themselves in a position to win. They'll get another chance in January. If they can't win then, then they don't deserve the Superbowl anyway.Whoa, I actually agree almost 100% with this (I'm not sure about the 80% number).He was juggling the ball. That's not possession.He didn't have it at the top, but he did gain possession immediately when the ball came down to this chest. They marked it where he hit the ground which was clearly wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
runthemover 39 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I agree that the spot was questionable but from what I remember it looked like it'd be close but not quite close enough. And, don't call me Clearly Link to post Share on other sites
loogie 115 Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 He didn't have it at the top, but he did gain possession immediately when the ball came down to this chest. They marked it where he hit the ground which was clearly wrong.I just looked at it again, and you are clearly wrong. He does have the ball when it's in his chest, but he bobbled it when his feet were last on the ground. Thus, he doesn't actually complete the catch until his ass hits the turf, which is behind the marker. Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyJoJo 18 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I just looked at it again, and you are clearly wrong. He does have the ball when it's in his chest, but he bobbled it when his feet were last on the ground. Thus, he doesn't actually complete the catch until his ass hits the turf, which is behind the marker.You're a lousy fucking softball player, Jack! Link to post Share on other sites
dna4ever 2 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 You're a lousy fucking softball player, Jack!That's a relief! I was afraid I wasn't going to be able to use the 'liar, liar, pants-on-fire' defense Link to post Share on other sites
GeneralGeeWhiz 0 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 So are you saying he should have had more faith in his defense? He knows his defense better than you or I, and I feel I am in no position to question his assessment of their ability to stop the Colts in that particular situation.What was bad was the situation.These are just estimates (they should be pretty close to reality), but lets think about it this way:Patriots punt, the Colts have a 55% chance of scoring a TD and winning the game.Patriots go on 4th down and:-have an 80% chance of converting which ends the game-miss, and the Colts now have a 75% chance of scoring a TDSo they have an 80% chance to win the game there, and if they miss the Colts chances only improve by 20%.What is the better option? punting it. look, bellichek is a genius and a hell of a coach, but it was a BAD call. Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Thus far in the game the Colts had punted 7 times, turned it over 2 times, and scored touchdowns 4 times. 9:4 against.Using all 4 downs helps, but from what we'd seen out of the Patriots defense I think the Colts are still a dog to score. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 punting it. look, bellichek is a genius and a hell of a coach, but it was a BAD call.Great analysis. How about you make an argument why he should punt, besides the close my eyes, plug my ears and say " i'm not listening" argument. Link to post Share on other sites
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