tired of laying down qq kk

[Scott3705 0]

I've found a number of times int he last few weeks when I have held KK or QQ and felt like I was up against AA, KK. Example, a raise for early position, a large raise from MP (like 8x'sBB), then to me ; or I raise from early position and get that same raise large raise from MP or LP. Most times I get the feeling that the reraiser has a big pairI usually want to find out where I am from there. So almost always with KK, and some times with QQ I'll re-reraise. to see where I'm at. I get a push all in from the re-raiser and then I'll throw my hand away. Recently though, I have gotten tired these hands preflop. Case in point, in the first level of a tournament today I had QQ dealt to me in the BB, crazy action leading to the button going all in I fold. And the button has AA. Nothing big. Second Level, I get KK dealt on the button. Raise, big reraise, I push in a large re-reraise and MP goes all in. I call after typing "I know you have AA which makes me wondering why i'm calling" He has AA and i'm out. Problem is that I have started to call with these big pairs when I know I'm behind, because I'm getting real tired of laying them down. Clearly, it's costing me money. Worst part of my game right now is keeping myself composed when I start running into stuff like this. How do you guys keep an even keel and keep stuff like this from getting to you

[Vade 0]

Most of the time, you have to call with KKActually, I think you have to call an overwhelming majority of the timeYour read must be DAMN good to fold KK preflop

[semaj550 0]

Sounds like you're running into a large number of crappy situtions all at once. This is very unlikely. With KK, mathematically, you are very unlikely to be against AA and with QQ you are only slightly more likely to be against AA or KK (all though I, personally, would add AK to the list of hands that scares me). I like your plan of reraising to find out where you are at. I wouldn't be so quick to fold to an all-in, however. If you know the guy is loose, or he is likely to be playing loose a fold should not be automatically, in fact a call probably should be give then small range of hands that have you dominated and the larger range of hands he could have that you dominate. If he's more of a nut player then you should be happy that you played the hand well and knew enough to lay down a monster once you knew it was beat.Situations like that come down mostly to how well you know your opponent and how is playing presently. The more you know the more correct decisions you will make in these situations.

[rogermarks 0]

Chin up, once in a while you'll be the one with AA and you'll go up against KK. And KK has to hold up at some point. Come on, you can't always be up against AA! KK is still a great hand, don't start laying it down for no reason. oh, and if you play on pokerstars and "rw marks" ever re raises your KK all in, and you feel like he has AA, call, you'll probably draw out because everyone does. Good luck and keep your head up.

[MarionSauce 0]

Well I don't know why you're complaining. If you knew he had AA, then that means you're PHIL HELLMUTH LEVEL OF AN EAGLE!

[benhoug 0]

Obviously there are a lot of variables to every situation. Are these single table tournaments or MTTs? What's your table image, what's their's, position, position, position. If I'm in a single table tourny and I've got KK and get re-raised I'm liable to push right there and take my chances. You'd be amazed at how many times I've done this thinking I was beat only to find my opponent had AK, AQ or a smaller pair like 99, 10 10, JJ or QQ. Conversly, if it's early in a MTT I'll lay down KK to a big raise and live to see another day. At the end of the day it's all about feel and risk versus reward. Over the long haul KK is going to hold up more than it's not, maybe you're just in a rut right now. If you keep playing 'em smart in the end you're going to win.

[BigSlickBengal 0]

Chin up, once in a while you'll be the one with AA and you'll go up against KK. And KK has to hold up at some point. Come on, you can't always be up against AA! KK is still a great hand, don't start laying it down for no reason. oh, and if you play on pokerstars and "rw marks" ever re raises your KK all in, and you feel like he has AA, call, you'll probably draw out because everyone does. Good luck and keep your head up.

last 3 tournaments i played in i doubled up in the first level by being delt aa and someone else going all in with kk

[ronnieburger 0]

yea this happens but hey most of the time you are ahead w/KK or QQ and hey there are bad beats thats poker and when you do get these kinds of hand you gotta play other that specific situations b/c ussually you are ahead and "You can bet on it"

[CobaltBlue 662]

If I have QQ and suspect that I'm against AA or KK...I'll call a raise to see a flop...rather than reraising to encourage them going all-in (and then I don't get to see any cards). If I hit my set, great...otherwise, it's not too terribly hard to get away.That said, I've folded QQ a number of times pre-flop, but I've yet to be able to fold KK.

[obs 0]

The other day I pick up AKs. Flop a K and end up being against AA. The next hand on that same table, I pick up KK. Once again, I am up against AA. It sucks when it is two hands in a row.

[Scott3705 0]

Chin up, once in a while you'll be the one with AA and you'll go up against KK. And KK has to hold up at some point. Come on, you can't always be up against AA! KK is still a great hand, don't start laying it down for no reason. oh, and if you play on pokerstars and "rw marks" ever re raises your KK all in, and you feel like he has AA, call, you'll probably draw out because everyone does. Good luck and keep your head up.

Yeah, KK and QQ have held up for me during this run. Post was kind of me letting off steam for getting knocked out of the tournament when I really suspected that I was behind. I don't lay it down more times then I play it and win with it. I've just had a run in the past few weeks where I have gotten it and suspected that I was behind more often than i think KK QQ should suspect that its way behind. I have called some all-ins ahead with some one pushing 55 saying he thought he had the best hand. Those were nice.

[Scott3705 0]

If I have QQ and suspect that I'm against AA or KK...I'll call a raise to see a flop...rather than reraising to encourage them going all-in (and then I don't get to see any cards). If I hit my set, great...otherwise, it's not too terribly hard to get away.That said, I've folded QQ a number of times pre-flop, but I've yet to be able to fold KK.

A lot of times if I suspect that I'm against a higher pair, I really want to know where I'm at cause I've found it to be a lot cheaper lay down. If the flop comes completely low rags with me calling, I've found it's costed me more because i have such a dominant overpair and it just becomes harder for me to get away from. Just my personal way of playing them.

[Guest]

Hell, you should be happy with yourself when you folded correctly, GOOD JOB! GREAT READ! I say, stay with your gut feelings, sounds like you had the right feeling most of the time. Personally, I find it very hard to get away from KK pre-flop. I was under the gun on Wednesday with QQ and put in a 4X BB bet. It folded all around to the BB. He put me all in, he had me more than covered, I read him as trying to be a bully and trying to steal my raise. I called! AA, bye bye, I'm out! Wished I had your instincts.....Good Job!

[captaindew 0]

I've only done that twice ever. Once in a casino. I'm UTG with KK and limp as the table has alot of action. There is a raise by a very tight player to $15 (about the standard sized raise at this table). 1 player calls and I re-raise to $35 see where I'm at, and he takes 0 seconds and immediately says all in (an additional $175). I agonized for at least 90 seconds and threw away the Kings. He showed his Aces. And that was after having played with this guy for 4 hours, and seen how darn tight he was, and being willing to bet he would not push all in for that much without Aces. Other time was online when I happened to be up against a close friend of mine, who will always re-raise all in with AA, to someone else's preflop raise. It is such an obvious tell. If he has any other hand like KK or QQ, he'll just call another's raise, but if he has Aces, he immediately comes over the top all in. Thats the only way I have ever been able to get away from KK preflop. Getting away from QQ, it is a bit easier.

[captaindew 0]

folding KK or QQ preflop is very hard to do. There are so many times people push in with hands that you make you shake your head. AQ, AJ, A10, Ace rag. KJ. I've seen all kinds of mind-numbing moves reasonably early in an SNG or MTT, that it is so hard online to get away from QQ or KK.