Aa Vs. Loose Player

[Syntonic 0]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)CO ($33.60)Button ($27.50)Hero ($44.75)BB ($15.10)UTG ($26.45)UTG+1 ($14.75)MP1 ($17.35)MP2 ($25.35)Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A. 3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.5, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, 1 fold, MP2 calls $1.25.Flop: ($3.75) 6, 8, 3(2 players)Hero bets $2, MP2 raises to $4, Hero raises to $10, MP2 raises to $23.6, Hero ??Is it worth trying to get away from this hand? Is there any indication that he flopped a set? Thoughts?

[rdtedm 0]

Is it worth trying to get away from this hand? Is there any indication that he flopped a set?

Hero bets $2, MP2 raises to $4, Hero raises to $10, MP2 raises to $23.6

Thats all the advice i'll give.

[shinzilla 0]

Some loose players like to call 3-bets in position with QQ+. I think the pot's laying us too good odds to fold. Yeah, it looks as if he has a set, but overpairs and flush draws are also in his range. I don't think I could dump it.

[rdtedm 0]

Ok, I lied. At this level the dreaded minraise is used a lot for pocket pairs for the following reasons:1) Prevent someone from making a bigger raise with two big cards/other raising hands2) Seeing a cheap flop and setmining3) Small chance a minraise will take it down4) Cheaply building a bigger pot in case you flop a set

[darkrider88 0]

I can't fold this. Other overpairs are in his range, and you are getting 2.9-1. You are ahead here at least 30% of the time IMO.

[whatgreatis 0]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)CO ($33.60)Button ($27.50)Hero ($44.75)BB ($15.10)UTG ($26.45)UTG+1 ($14.75)MP1 ($17.35)MP2 ($25.35)Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A. 3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.5, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, 1 fold, MP2 calls $1.25.Flop: ($3.75) 6, 8, 3(2 players)Hero bets $2, MP2 raises to $4, Hero raises to $10, MP2 raises to $23.6, Hero ??Is it worth trying to get away from this hand? Is there any indication that he flopped a set? Thoughts?

Here are a few things that should help. Think back to other bets similier to the ones that he played like this and then decided what his range of hands are. He could have 33 66 88 99 1010 JJ QQ. I doub hes going to give this much action on a flush draw even if he is aggressive. I also rule out KK or AA (and even QQ maybe) because he did not re-raise you preflop. So the hands you can beat are 99 JJ QQ and the ones you cant are 33 66 88. It's a real dirty situation because there are equal numbers of hands that you can beat and that he can beat you.The tie breaking descion for me would be thinking back to how he played hands similer to this. If he shows this much aggression without a set I'm calling or if he likes to slowplay his big hands I'm calling because that rules out a set. Things I would have done differently are re-raise more preflop to 2.50 and lead out a potsized bet on the flop. Its a bad situation but think about how he played other hands and let that help you. This is a spot where you could get away from aces or you could push all in.

[NoBBiR 0]

I really hate minraising idiots. I probably get it in. Folding aces is purely a read based play most of the time. But here the board is somewhat coordinated, you're oop, and you're looking at a minraise machine. These are probably all reasons I would choose to get all the money in on the flop.And I agree with raising more preflop. You basically priced him (based on implied odds, plus he's getting 2:1) in to ATC, so he could have anything. I probably reraise to 2.50 preflop.

[sabes99 0]

i think the best play is folding, there are other overpairs in his range but i don't think he will be putting the fourth bet in most of the time with just one pairhowever, i would probably know he has a set, shove anyway, then puke when he shows me 8-8

[NoBBiR 0]

i think the best play is folding, there are other overpairs in his range but i don't think he will be putting the fourth bet in most of the time with just one pairhowever, i would probably know he has a set, shove anyway, then puke when he shows me 8-8

I like your style baby

[Syntonic 0]

Well, I sat for a little while after he went all in and at first I immediately thought he had a set, and was ready to fold. Then I remembered that he min-raised preflop. I figured if he had 33, he would have just limped and 66 or 88 he would have raised more. So I decided that this guy is either an idiot A8 suited and just wants to lose his money, or he's playing QQ sneaky, and min raised to build a pot without driving out people.I call and he turns over KK.

[BuffDan 0]

Well, I sat for a little while after he went all in and at first I immediately thought he had a set, and was ready to fold. Then I remembered that he min-raised preflop. I figured if he had 33, he would have just limped and 66 or 88 he would have raised more. So I decided that this guy is either an idiot A8 suited and just wants to lose his money, or he's playing QQ sneaky, and min raised to build a pot without driving out people.I call and he turns over KK.

I think this is a good example of using the preflop action as well as the action on the flop in making your decision. I agree that the raise preflop simultaneously makes small pocket pairs less likely and overpairs or some sort of AhKh type hand more likely.Edit: well AhKh is less likely with us having Ah, but I guess it could be KhQh or something.