simo_8ball 0 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 I proceeded to lose $1,200 to him in one pot where I got it in good with KKds all-in preflop (don't ask)I really want to ask.I'm very impressed you're keeping to proper BR management. Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 Iggy no offense but losing more than %33 of your bankroll in a day isn't good bankroll managament. You managed to stand up and leave. That's good progress tho. Link to post Share on other sites
mikeysong 0 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 Iggy no offense but losing more than %33 of your bankroll in a day isn't good bankroll managament. You managed to stand up and leave. That's good progress tho.STHU AND COMPLIMENT THE MAN ON NOT LOSING HIS ROLL :DmeanwhileNL is going great for me 2/4nl baby! I'm on a nice sustainable streak right now Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 Mid month update.I'm a bit behind my hand goal. I've played 9,185 hands over 11 days. So, I'm 2k behind. Meh. Not really motivated to play right now. Won $200 quickly tonight, so I think I may take it off, and come back tomorrow.I remember about 3 times thinking that poker didn't sound fun at the moment. When did you start having motivate yourself to play? Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 Here, I can post the HH I guess. SB (DontBullyMe) is a super super huge donk and I figure that he's going to call with trash in the sidepot enough that I can make up for losing a little equity against CO's obvious aces in the main. I probably should have folded anyway, but the thought of folding double-suited kings on the button was so excruciating that I wasn't going to do it if I had any reasonable justification not to.POKERSTARS GAME #11437890574: OMAHA POT LIMIT ($2/$4) - 2007/08/11 - 21:30:13 (ET)Table 'Orthosie II' 6-max Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 1: victoria05 ($255.30 in chips)Seat 2: pierre507 ($523 in chips)Seat 3: Ezsaias ($394 in chips)Seat 4: iggymcfly ($1460.25 in chips)Seat 5: DontBullyMe ($1228.70 in chips)Seat 6: cakechaser ($370 in chips)DontBullyMe: posts small blind $2cakechaser: posts big blind $4*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to iggymcfly [Ks Qd Kd 7s]victoria05: raises $8 to $12pierre507: foldsEzsaias: raises $28 to $40iggymcfly: calls $40DontBullyMe: raises $136 to $176cakechaser: foldsvictoria05: calls $164Ezsaias: raises $218 to $394 and is all-iniggymcfly: raises $1066.25 to $1460.25 and is all-inDontBullyMe: calls $1052.70 and is all-invictoria05: calls $79.30 and is all-in*** FLOP *** [9h 6d 7h]*** TURN *** [9h 6d 7h] [4c]*** RIVER *** [9h 6d 7h 4c] [8s]*** SHOW DOWN ***DontBullyMe: shows [Ts As Jh 8c] (a straight, Seven to Jack)iggymcfly: mucks handDontBullyMe collected $1669.40 from side pot-2Ezsaias: mucks handDontBullyMe collected $416.10 from side pot-1victoria05: mucks handDontBullyMe collected $1022.20 from main potDontBullyMe said, "gg all"DontBullyMe said, "ty v much"*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $3110.70 Main pot $1022.20. Side pot-1 $416.10. Side pot-2 $1669.40. | Rake $3Board [9h 6d 7h 4c 8s]Seat 1: victoria05 mucked [9s 6s 7d 5d]Seat 2: pierre507 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: Ezsaias mucked [Ac Ad 5c Qh]Seat 4: iggymcfly (button) mucked [Ks Qd Kd 7s]Seat 5: DontBullyMe (small blind) showed [Ts As Jh 8c] and won ($3107.70) with a straight, Seven to JackSeat 6: cakechaser (big blind) folded before Flop Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 That is just sick. $1200 with AJT8ss. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 Oh, and on the topic of Jeanine Deeb (who I mentioned meeting during my June in Vegas)...She looks WAY too much like Freddy for my liking.I remember about 3 times thinking that poker didn't sound fun at the moment. When did you start having motivate yourself to play?Eh, it's still good.Just tough to do 1k hands per day, every day. I tend to play a bit scared too, because I'm up for the month, I tend to put in a few hundred hands, and win a couple hundred or something, then quit because I don't want to lose it. I shouldn't be playing like that. Link to post Share on other sites
mikeysong 0 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 She looks WAY too much like Freddy for my liking.Eh, it's still good.Just tough to do 1k hands per day, every day. I tend to play a bit scared too, because I'm up for the month, I tend to put in a few hundred hands, and win a couple hundred or something, then quit because I don't want to lose it. I shouldn't be playing like that.it's cuz you a donk Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 Eh, it's still good.Just tough to do 1k hands per day, every day. I tend to play a bit scared too, because I'm up for the month, I tend to put in a few hundred hands, and win a couple hundred or something, then quit because I don't want to lose it. I shouldn't be playing like that.This is one of the hazards of careful record keeping. Being up $2k feels almost as good as being up $3k. Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 it's cuz you a donk He has a point Zachary.. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 DontBullyMe: shows [Ts As Jh 8c] (a straight, Seven to Jack)iggymcfly: mucks handDontBullyMe collected $1669.40 from side pot-2Ezsaias: mucks handDontBullyMe collected $416.10 from side pot-1victoria05: mucks handDontBullyMe collected $1022.20 from main potDontBullyMe said, "gg all"DontBullyMe said, "ty v much"OMFG life tilt. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 It's not so much playing scared, but I just don't want to blow my winnings, lol.I'm not a good gambler, apparently. hahaha. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 Read about my wonderful blowup here:http://www.pocketfives.com/8934BCA2-3E73-4...66C94BD7B7.aspxAlso a surprise appearance by Chucksty . Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 "I'm not very good at all, I lose money daily on stupid plays and tough beats.Having said that, I can't imagine a drug readily available on the black market that I could do enough of to make me think pushing with that hand is a good idea.Justify it all you want in your mind any way you please, it was a terrible play." "The fact that you say you are bad at poker and lose money every day, and then say that no matter what it's a terrible play shows me 2 things:1. Perhaps the reason you're bad at poker is that you're closed-minded.2. If you suck at poker and you think it was a bad play, then it was probably a good play (just kidding, sort of)."Owned? Link to post Share on other sites
Mattnxtc 0 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 Until i get my tilt issues under control...no more cash games for me...I dont have the time to play like I did in college and I think thats hurting me b/c i feel like I should be winning more. So my new goal is to play 100 $5sngs regardless of how much money I have. I am through 10 this weekend at a 50% ROI. It needs to stay above 40% for me to even be somewhat happy above 50% is ideal. Link to post Share on other sites
homnig 0 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 40% roi is sustainable. Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Good news/bad news again, but the opposite this time. I got back on the horse today and after running bad for 5 hours at 1/2, I finally started tilting and figured that if I was going to be 3-betting trash hands trying to play big pots, I might as well chase my losses to 3/6. I bought in for $300 and I was planning on leaving if I lost it, but it's hard to say if I would have bought again or not, because I ran the $300 up to $2800. The roll's back over $7,000 now but I definitely need to get my tilt control straightened out a little better. I think I need to add it officially to my August goals:3. Don't chase losses ever ever ever again. Only move up stakes as part of a plan, not because I'm having a bad session or am down and want to get the money back. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 You're on the edge Iggy.This isn't good. Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Yeah, I know. I want off the edge. I want off! I shouldn't have even played today, but they had that FPP tournament today where the top 5% get a seat to the WCOOP main event and I figured that if I got a seat, the $T would wipe out my losses from yesterday. I started playing side action while I was playing the FPP tournament, and then even though I busted out after about half an hour, I kept playing cash for another 6 hours. I actually wasn't even tilting the first few hours, but my tilt threshhold was a lot lower due to my losses yesterday, and when I lost 4 buy-ins in about 50 hands, that was enough to reach it.The only thing I can think of to really help myself is to just make a concrete plan and stick to it completely. So, my plan for the rest of the month in black and white is as follows:-Do not play a single hand of 2/4 until I reach $10,000 in my online roll. Not one. When I get there, I can play 1 or 2 tables of 2/4 with my 1/2 unless I drop back to $8,000 at which point I need to go back to just 1/2. At $12,000, I can move up completely and stay at 2/4 forever regardless of how much I drop.-Don't buy into any tournaments where the overall buy-in including fees is $200 or more. They're so hard to cash in and all they do is chip away at my BR. I wasted $300-something on that stupid $100 rebuy the other day and I think that made it a little easier to get sloppy and start playing 2/4 when I put that money down a sinkhole. For limit games, nothing higher than 10/20 until I've got $10,000 either.-Make sure to make a new black and white plan when this one expires. If I'm thinking "maybe I'll start playing 2/4 at $10,000 or maybe I'll start at $9,000, it's a lot easier to say "might as well just start at $7,500, the games look good right now".So yeah, my 3rd goal for the month, elaborated a little more clearly is to just stick to the above plan for the rest of the month. I'll make a new one, either to start September or when my BR gets high enough that I can consider playing 3/6 legitimately. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 After having fallen off the wagon so many times, you might want to reconsider this as an occupation.Even if you 'make it', you'll inevitably stumble home drunk and bust your account. Obviously the problem isnt just going to fix itself with sheer willpower. If you're really serious about this shit, you need to find some way to deal with your lack of self control. Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Or I could just grow up and stop acting like a douche. Obviously, when I get enough money that it's worthwhile utility-wise to do so, I'll keep most of it offline in accounts that take a while to get at, but beyond that, I don't really think there's much I can do. Letting other people handle your money just turns it from a possibility that you'll lose it to a surety.My real problem right now is that I've done this so many times that it seems acceptable to do it again. Even tonight, I was thinking about when I played 3/6 HU last month and ran good. I just have to stop accepting it and set my mind that I'm going to stop. I really don't see any intermediary. Trying to use some kind of artificial measure would just be temporary. I either need to set my mind that I'm not going to do this or I'll never be successful. It's one or the other.It's not like I can't manage a bankroll. I did it last year for several months before I got stupid. I just have to do it again and not quit this time. Besides, it's not like just deciding to give up on poker is going to accomplish anything. If I'm not disciplined enough to click the right ****ing button on Stars that decides what level game to play, I'm sure as **** not disciplined enough to go back to college, pass all the classes that I was dropping/failing before, get a degree and succeed that way. Poker's the easiest way in the world to make money. If I can't do this, I'm just a loser for life and I might as well just give up on any goals and ambitions forever.Edit: I guess there are other measures I could take if I don't straighten out here and end up going broke again. Hypnosis (if it's even possible to hypnotize someone about something as vague as using good BR management) could work, or if I wanted to get really drastic, I hear the military's good for discipline. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Seriously, iggy, I think you might want to consider counseling. And there's really no shame in that. I saw a counselor for a couple of years and I think it helped. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Seriously, iggy, I think you might want to consider counseling. And there's really no shame in that. I saw a counselor for a couple of years and I think it helped.actually me too, he really got me to get my head out of my ass. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Yup, I've been too.Nothing to do with poker/gambling though, although my Mom wanted me to, lol Link to post Share on other sites
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