bigstack1980 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 I been on the longest downswing in my poker life... and its dumb stuff... you know I can understand it if it were that I was bad.... but these idiot donkeys are just getting rewarded to much... ARHHHHHH.... I only raised here because i know this guy is a call station and gets rewarded for crap and STILL i get bent over from FTP.... They should send me their FTP KY merch......Full Tilt Poker Game #3080075062: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (23529456), Table 2 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:33:34 ET - 2007/07/28Seat 1: stoolsamples420 (3,690)Seat 2: nnavi (1,120)Seat 3: turningProBS (1,375)Seat 4: PhishLuver (3,870)Seat 6: thekman24 (2,685)Seat 7: lutz22 (9,005)Seat 8: J-DETH-ROCK (2,075)Seat 9: 87Sparky87 (3,180)thekman24 posts the small blind of 80lutz22 posts the big blind of 160The button is in seat #4*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to turningProBS [Ad 7c]J-DETH-ROCK has 15 seconds left to actJ-DETH-ROCK folds87Sparky87 foldsstoolsamples420 foldsnnavi foldsturningProBS raises to 560PhishLuver foldsthekman24 foldslutz22 has 15 seconds left to actlutz22 calls 400*** FLOP *** [2s 8h 8d]lutz22 checksturningProBS bets 815, and is all inlutz22 calls 815turningProBS shows [Ad 7c]lutz22 shows [8c 3c]*** TURN *** [2s 8h 8d] [3s]*** RIVER *** [2s 8h 8d 3s] [9d]turningProBS shows a pair of Eightslutz22 shows a full house, Eights full of Threeslutz22 wins the pot (2,830) with a full house, Eights full of ThreesturningProBS stands up*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 2,830 | Rake 0Board: [2s 8h 8d 3s 9d]Seat 1: stoolsamples420 didn't bet (folded)Seat 2: nnavi didn't bet (folded)Seat 3: turningProBS showed [Ad 7c] and lost with a pair of EightsSeat 4: PhishLuver (button) didn't bet (folded)Seat 6: thekman24 (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 7: lutz22 (big blind) showed [8c 3c] and won (2,830) with a full house, Eights full of ThreesSeat 8: J-DETH-ROCK didn't bet (folded)Seat 9: 87Sparky87 didn't bet (folded) Link to post Share on other sites
PiercE^Bodog 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 lol... i was truly shocked...... until i realized this was a $10 SnG Link to post Share on other sites
AceJackOffS 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 BBFIDTSfold preflop Link to post Share on other sites
albasuna 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Just don't tilt your bankroll.that.is.all. Link to post Share on other sites
Jargonator 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 obv rigged Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Meh. The guy called from the BB with a massive chipstack, hoping for the exact kind of flop that he got. It happens. Don't raise with A7. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Based on this post, and specifically one post in the Strat forum, you really don't understand the theory of poker.I hope me saying this bluntly is a wake up call, but if not, I'm still ok with that.Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites
bigstack1980 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Author Share Posted July 28, 2007 lol... i was truly shocked...... until i realized this was a $10 SnGDo you really feel that it is because its 10 buck SNG.... i mean... I have a theory... That is when I started to learn poker we never had so many freerolls as they do today... Where you could win an easy 50 bucks and run it up.... For me it was play money then got a buck from a friend and worked at it... NOT as a donkey like the play chip people did... But truly learn poker... Now days they can even be underage and win money from these donkaments and still not truly learn or care to play right when at the 5 or 10 buck limits...On top of that they seem that they continue to have success doing this donkey style because they get rewarded....Do you feel that I should move up levels... I used to do 100 dollar sng because they were the lease donkey-ish players.... now those have donkeys.... I just wish i could play live and leave all this poker online crap alone...... Thanks for your suggestions and ideas.... Link to post Share on other sites
cubsfan44 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 If youre gonna play that hand you should be shoving. Link to post Share on other sites
Jargonator 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 I have a theoryI just wish i could play live and leave all this poker online crap alone &What's stopping you? Link to post Share on other sites
StupidKid 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Play at least the $200 sngs on stars. There are hardly any donkeys so you will dominate.Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites
taylorhb0 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Do you really feel that it is because its 10 buck SNG.... i mean... I have a theory... That is when I started to learn poker we never had so many freerolls as they do today... Where you could win an easy 50 bucks and run it up.... For me it was play money then got a buck from a friend and worked at it... NOT as a donkey like the play chip people did... But truly learn poker... Now days they can even be underage and win money from these donkaments and still not truly learn or care to play right when at the 5 or 10 buck limits...On top of that they seem that they continue to have success doing this donkey style because they get rewarded....Do you feel that I should move up levels... I used to do 100 dollar sng because they were the lease donkey-ish players.... now those have donkeys.... I just wish i could play live and leave all this poker online crap alone...... Thanks for your suggestions and ideas....Being an underage player myself, you sound exactly like an underage player. Link to post Share on other sites
Chris E 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Do you really feel that it is because its 10 buck SNG.... i mean... I have a theory... That is when I started to learn poker we never had so many freerolls as they do today... Where you could win an easy 50 bucks and run it up.... For me it was play money then got a buck from a friend and worked at it... NOT as a donkey like the play chip people did... But truly learn poker... Now days they can even be underage and win money from these donkaments and still not truly learn or care to play right when at the 5 or 10 buck limits...On top of that they seem that they continue to have success doing this donkey style because they get rewarded....Do you feel that I should move up levels... I used to do 100 dollar sng because they were the lease donkey-ish players.... now those have donkeys.... I just wish i could play live and leave all this poker online crap alone...... Thanks for your suggestions and ideas....Playing with donkeys = $$$You have things back to front. Link to post Share on other sites
bigstack1980 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Author Share Posted July 28, 2007 &What's stopping you?I am disabled and on top of that I live in Texas which doesnt have any casinos.... So that limits me but i plan to move to vegas next year in the summer time and start my live journey there... With everyone else.... thanks for your help.... And normally I would never play this hand this way... but I was cut short on my stack earlier with my QQ going against a KK.... I guess in hine-sight I should I should of folded and waited for a better time.... Thanks for your advice.. Link to post Share on other sites
dirtystacks 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 I meant to post this a long time ago.Here is a response:I played this tournament for 7 hours. 7 hours. I'm pretty sure I never put my money in behind in the entire tournament (past the rebuy period, in which I rebought 2 times). This is what happened after 7 hours. PokerStars Game #11175330349: Tournament #56066187, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVI (25000/50000) - 2007/07/28 - 03:05:03 (ET)Table '56066187 104' 9-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 1: KNUTZARONI (2152904 in chips) Seat 2: Sumpan (1509495 in chips) Seat 3: dirtystacks (759214 in chips) Seat 4: norshus (563108 in chips) is sitting outSeat 6: xMercury69x (1242680 in chips) Seat 8: karter (669722 in chips) Seat 9: doublemeup1 (1421111 in chips) KNUTZARONI: posts the ante 5000Sumpan: posts the ante 5000dirtystacks: posts the ante 5000norshus: posts the ante 5000xMercury69x: posts the ante 5000karter: posts the ante 5000doublemeup1: posts the ante 5000karter: posts small blind 25000doublemeup1: posts big blind 50000*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to dirtystacks [Kh As]KNUTZARONI: folds Sumpan: folds dirtystacks: raises 100000 to 150000norshus: folds xMercury69x: folds karter: folds doublemeup1: raises 1266111 to 1416111 and is all-indirtystacks: calls 604214 and is all-in*** FLOP *** [8h Js 5c]*** TURN *** [8h Js 5c] [7s]*** RIVER *** [8h Js 5c 7s] [4d]*** SHOW DOWN ***doublemeup1: shows [Qh 8c] (a pair of Eights)dirtystacks: shows [Kh As] (high card Ace)doublemeup1 said, "gg"doublemeup1 collected 1568428 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 1568428 | Rake 0 Board [8h Js 5c 7s 4d]Seat 1: KNUTZARONI folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: Sumpan folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: dirtystacks showed [Kh As] and lost with high card AceSeat 4: norshus folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: xMercury69x (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: karter (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 9: doublemeup1 (big blind) showed [Qh 8c] and won (1568428) with a pair of EightsRealize that I got $100someshit I don't care about vs. $5k for the winner. Link to post Share on other sites
bigstack1980 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Author Share Posted July 28, 2007 I meant to post this a long time ago.Here is a response:I played this tournament for 7 hours. 7 hours. I'm pretty sure I never put my money in behind in the entire tournament (past the rebuy period, in which I rebought 2 times). This is what happened after 7 hours. PokerStars Game #11175330349: Tournament #56066187, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVI (25000/50000) - 2007/07/28 - 03:05:03 (ET)Table '56066187 104' 9-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 1: KNUTZARONI (2152904 in chips) Seat 2: Sumpan (1509495 in chips) Seat 3: dirtystacks (759214 in chips) Seat 4: norshus (563108 in chips) is sitting outSeat 6: xMercury69x (1242680 in chips) Seat 8: karter (669722 in chips) Seat 9: doublemeup1 (1421111 in chips) KNUTZARONI: posts the ante 5000Sumpan: posts the ante 5000dirtystacks: posts the ante 5000norshus: posts the ante 5000xMercury69x: posts the ante 5000karter: posts the ante 5000doublemeup1: posts the ante 5000karter: posts small blind 25000doublemeup1: posts big blind 50000*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to dirtystacks [Kh As]KNUTZARONI: folds Sumpan: folds dirtystacks: raises 100000 to 150000norshus: folds xMercury69x: folds karter: folds doublemeup1: raises 1266111 to 1416111 and is all-indirtystacks: calls 604214 and is all-in*** FLOP *** [8h Js 5c]*** TURN *** [8h Js 5c] [7s]*** RIVER *** [8h Js 5c 7s] [4d]*** SHOW DOWN ***doublemeup1: shows [Qh 8c] (a pair of Eights)dirtystacks: shows [Kh As] (high card Ace)doublemeup1 said, "gg"doublemeup1 collected 1568428 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 1568428 | Rake 0 Board [8h Js 5c 7s 4d]Seat 1: KNUTZARONI folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: Sumpan folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: dirtystacks showed [Kh As] and lost with high card AceSeat 4: norshus folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: xMercury69x (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: karter (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 9: doublemeup1 (big blind) showed [Qh 8c] and won (1568428) with a pair of EightsRealize that I got $100someshit I don't care about vs. $5k for the winner.Pokerstars players is why I moved to FTP a while back and all those Donkeys from stars came from over there to FTP.... lol... its sad... sorry about that sick play... I see that all to often... Link to post Share on other sites
juggalo41729 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Ladies and gentlemen bbfidts. But as long as we're all posting donk bad beats I would like to introduce you to the beat that took me out of the last $163 tournament I played. I sat'd in for $10 I can not afford to buy straight in to $163 tournament fyi.Full Tilt Poker Game #2977951782: $55,000 Guarantee (22095937), Table 36 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:33:43 ET - 2007/07/17Seat 1: PrtyPsux (2,680)Seat 2: spaskyt (3,075)Seat 3: juggalo41729 (3,245)Seat 4: MoormanI (6,470)Seat 5: thedob (3,130)Seat 6: meljay (3,775)Seat 7: gregior (6,585)Seat 8: ckk1 (3,925)Seat 9: VipPlayer (4,465)thedob posts the small blind of 20meljay posts the big blind of 40The button is in seat #4*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to juggalo41729 [Jh Kh]gregior foldsckk1 foldsVipPlayer raises to 120PrtyPsux calls 120spaskyt calls 120juggalo41729 raises to 400MoormanI has 15 seconds left to actMoormanI foldsthedob foldsmeljay foldsVipPlayer has 15 seconds left to actVipPlayer calls 280PrtyPsux foldsspaskyt calls 280*** FLOP *** [2c Jd 3h]VipPlayer checksspaskyt bets 400juggalo41729 calls 400VipPlayer folds*** TURN *** [2c Jd 3h] [5h]spaskyt bets 520juggalo41729 raises to 2,445, and is all inspaskyt has 15 seconds left to actspaskyt calls 1,755, and is all injuggalo41729 shows [Jh Kh]spaskyt shows [9s 9d]Uncalled bet of 170 returned to juggalo41729*** RIVER *** [2c Jd 3h 5h] [9c]juggalo41729 shows a pair of Jacksspaskyt shows three of a kind, Ninesspaskyt wins the pot (6,730) with three of a kind, Nines*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 6,730 | Rake 0Board: [2c Jd 3h 5h 9c]Seat 1: PrtyPsux folded before the FlopSeat 2: spaskyt showed [9s 9d] and won (6,730) with three of a kind, NinesSeat 3: juggalo41729 showed [Jh Kh] and lost with a pair of JacksSeat 4: MoormanI (button) didn't bet (folded)Seat 5: thedob (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 6: meljay (big blind) folded before the FlopSeat 7: gregior didn't bet (folded)Seat 8: ckk1 didn't bet (folded)Seat 9: VipPlayer folded on the Flop Link to post Share on other sites
Jargonator 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Pokerstars players is why I moved to FTP a while back and all those Donkeys from stars came from over there to FTP.... lol... its sad... sorry about that sick play... I see that all to often...do you not realise that that mentality is simply illogical?you prefer to play against good players than bad players? quit focusing on the short term losses and think of the long term and you'll realise how little sense your comments make. Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 I meant to post this a long time ago.Here is a response:I played this tournament for 7 hours. 7 hours. I'm pretty sure I never put my money in behind in the entire tournament (past the rebuy period, in which I rebought 2 times). This is what happened after 7 hours. PokerStars Game #11175330349: Tournament #56066187, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVI (25000/50000) - 2007/07/28 - 03:05:03 (ET)Table '56066187 104' 9-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 1: KNUTZARONI (2152904 in chips) Seat 2: Sumpan (1509495 in chips) Seat 3: dirtystacks (759214 in chips) Seat 4: norshus (563108 in chips) is sitting outSeat 6: xMercury69x (1242680 in chips) Seat 8: karter (669722 in chips) Seat 9: doublemeup1 (1421111 in chips) KNUTZARONI: posts the ante 5000Sumpan: posts the ante 5000dirtystacks: posts the ante 5000norshus: posts the ante 5000xMercury69x: posts the ante 5000karter: posts the ante 5000doublemeup1: posts the ante 5000karter: posts small blind 25000doublemeup1: posts big blind 50000*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to dirtystacks [Kh As]KNUTZARONI: folds Sumpan: folds dirtystacks: raises 100000 to 150000norshus: folds xMercury69x: folds karter: folds doublemeup1: raises 1266111 to 1416111 and is all-indirtystacks: calls 604214 and is all-in*** FLOP *** [8h Js 5c]*** TURN *** [8h Js 5c] [7s]*** RIVER *** [8h Js 5c 7s] [4d]*** SHOW DOWN ***doublemeup1: shows [Qh 8c] (a pair of Eights)dirtystacks: shows [Kh As] (high card Ace)doublemeup1 said, "gg"doublemeup1 collected 1568428 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 1568428 | Rake 0 Board [8h Js 5c 7s 4d]Seat 1: KNUTZARONI folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: Sumpan folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: dirtystacks showed [Kh As] and lost with high card AceSeat 4: norshus folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: xMercury69x (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: karter (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 9: doublemeup1 (big blind) showed [Qh 8c] and won (1568428) with a pair of EightsRealize that I got $100someshit I don't care about vs. $5k for the winner.Yah, what a donk that guy is. Did you happen to see him pwn the $3r today? There's still a thread if you look hard enough. Link to post Share on other sites
juggalo41729 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 In that hand with the q8 how can you fault him for reraising allin and trying to win him a little skillet right there? I don't understand how that's even a bad beat. Link to post Share on other sites
bigstack1980 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Author Share Posted July 28, 2007 do you not realise that that mentality is simply illogical?you prefer to play against good players than bad players? quit focusing on the short term losses and think of the long term and you'll realise how little sense your comments make.I can understand your POV but in all honesty... I would in-fact prefer to play against better players then worse... because they are much easlier to read, even online... These donkeys are a bunch of wild cards... I have been playing for 2 years now and I have to say that over all my success has came from pros.... and not donkey joes.... I never fully understood this untill i was staked one time in a $1050 buy in for the sunday million... Then it was amazing... THEY RESPECTED RAISES.... it wasn't ALL IN all the time.... I played with a lot of great internet players... and live ones... and did well...Now granted when I am playing a freeroll... I start to play more donkey-ish and get a great lead out and usally final table it.... but when i play for money no matter the amount... I respect the players at the table and the game for itself and not play the donkey card..... but often times I wonder if I should.... Maybe thats what I am missing... Link to post Share on other sites
mase_gotsem 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 yea i hear this doublemeup1 person is awfully bad cant remember where i seen this person before.. Link to post Share on other sites
StupidKid 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 I can understand your POV but in all honesty... I would in-fact prefer to play against better players then worse... because they are much easlier to read, even online... These donkeys are a bunch of wild cards... I have been playing for 2 years now and I have to say that over all my success has came from pros.... and not donkey joes.... I never fully understood this untill i was staked one time in a $1050 buy in for the sunday million... Then it was amazing... THEY RESPECTED RAISES.... it wasn't ALL IN all the time.... I played with a lot of great internet players... and live ones... and did well...Now granted when I am playing a freeroll... I start to play more donkey-ish and get a great lead out and usally final table it.... but when i play for money no matter the amount... I respect the players at the table and the game for itself and not play the donkey card..... but often times I wonder if I should.... Maybe thats what I am missing... Seriously. This is so retarded.Where do you think the money you win online comes from primarily? The bad players. Who are you more likely to be able to get chips from in a tournament? The bad players. Link to post Share on other sites
bigstack1980 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Author Share Posted July 28, 2007 Seriously. This is so retarded.Where do you think the money you win online comes from primarily? The bad players. Who are you more likely to be able to get chips from in a tournament? The bad players.well, ALL i know is that when I to people, majority of the time its from Suck outs to donkeys... NOT outplayed by pros... its just the facts.... I would prefer anyday against a pro and not a joe....Well, Lets just say I would prefer a Pro on a MTT or SNG but a donkey on Cash games.... Link to post Share on other sites
davezz5 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Are you physically or mentally disabled? If mentally I'm sure you can still go into casino's if you're over twenty one in the States. Link to post Share on other sites
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