dimseven 0 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 I was just on a Stars 6-max 3/6 LHE table and it was 5 handed.Hand went like this: [people in question are UTG and BB]I had [Ac 10d]UTG calls, I raise, 2 people fold, BB calls, UTG 3BETS, I call, BB CAPS, UTG calls, I call.FLOP: [5s 7s 2c]BB checks, UTG checks, I check.TURN: [5s 7s 2c][7c]BB bets, UTG calls... at this point I dont know whats going on and I fold.RIVER: [5s 7s 2c][7c][Qh]BB bets, UTG FOLDS. Now I just thought this was suspicious at this point, then I decided to do a locale check just for the hell of it. To my surprise both opponents were in the Netherlands in separate towns about 45 min apart. What do you guys think? Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 paranoia.if UTG raises on turn, I might be skeptical. Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 I think you played the hand right.There is zero chance of you being able to spot collusion from one hand. UTG could have misclicked his limp/r-raise p/f. Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 I think UTG had 34 sooted, and folded on the river with nothing. It looks like a pretty standard missed draw to me. Link to post Share on other sites
blakheart 3 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 I was just on a Stars 6-max 3/6 LHE table and it was 5 handed.Hand went like this: [people in question are UTG and BB]I had [Ac 10d]UTG calls, I raise, 2 people fold, BB calls, UTG 3BETS, I call, BB CAPS, UTG calls, I call.FLOP: [5s 7s 2c]BB checks, UTG checks, I check.TURN: [5s 7s 2c][7c]BB bets, UTG calls... at this point I dont know whats going on and I fold.RIVER: [5s 7s 2c][7c][Qh]BB bets, UTG FOLDS. Now I just thought this was suspicious at this point, then I decided to do a locale check just for the hell of it. To my surprise both opponents were in the Netherlands in separate towns about 45 min apart. What do you guys think?There is a number of possible draws that missed on the river. While it looks like bad playing by a suited ace not to call that river bet, Lots of players are that bad. What is UTG had 68c? Could he even call one bet on the river there? Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Pretty flimsy evidence of collusion. Link to post Share on other sites
dimseven 0 Posted July 25, 2007 Author Share Posted July 25, 2007 paranoia.if UTG raises on turn, I might be skeptical.Yeah maybe just paranoid. You don't think this could be a case where one has Aces and the other one is trying to get me to call?Its just weird that one of them limp-3bets and the other one calls-caps preflop. Link to post Share on other sites
StupidKid 0 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 It looks like a pretty standard missed draw to me. Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings7 0 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 No evidence of collusion just from this hand. It definitely seems you are being paranoid. Link to post Share on other sites
cubsfan44 0 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Definite collusion. E mail stars and demand they ban them immediatly. Ill lead the boycott campaign for ya if they continue to let these criminals play. sw Let it go dude Link to post Share on other sites
fatman 1 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 It looks like a pretty standard missed draw to me. Link to post Share on other sites
loogie 115 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 PokerStars Game #11115928689: Tournament #56379472, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/07/24 - 19:08:35 (ET)Table '56379472 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 2: LongBallNIX (5340 in chips) Seat 3: fly99 (2825 in chips) Seat 5: boxmann007 (1285 in chips) Seat 6: tko828 (1185 in chips) Seat 9: looogie (2865 in chips) boxmann007: posts small blind 25tko828: posts big blind 50*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to looogie [7d 4d]looogie: folds LongBallNIX: folds fly99: calls 50boxmann007: folds tko828: checks *** FLOP *** [Kd Th Qd]tko828: checks fly99: checks *** TURN *** [Kd Th Qd] [6s]tko828: checks fly99: checks *** RIVER *** [Kd Th Qd 6s] [As]tko828: checks fly99: checks *** SHOW DOWN ***tko828: shows [Ah 7h] (a pair of Aces)fly99: shows [Tc Jc] (a straight, Ten to Ace) ALSO KNOWN AS THE NUTS fly99 collected 125 from pot Link to post Share on other sites
MJINK3 0 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 PokerStars Game #11115928689: Tournament #56379472, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/07/24 - 19:08:35 (ET)Table '56379472 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 2: LongBallNIX (5340 in chips) Seat 3: fly99 (2825 in chips) Seat 5: boxmann007 (1285 in chips) Seat 6: tko828 (1185 in chips) Seat 9: looogie (2865 in chips) boxmann007: posts small blind 25tko828: posts big blind 50*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to looogie [7d 4d]looogie: folds LongBallNIX: folds fly99: calls 50boxmann007: folds tko828: checks *** FLOP *** [Kd Th Qd]tko828: checks fly99: checks *** TURN *** [Kd Th Qd] [6s]tko828: checks fly99: checks *** RIVER *** [Kd Th Qd 6s] [As]tko828: checks fly99: checks *** SHOW DOWN ***tko828: shows [Ah 7h] (a pair of Aces)fly99: shows [Tc Jc] (a straight, Ten to Ace) ALSO KNOWN AS THE NUTS fly99 collected 125 from potI was in a freeroll once and had to take a dump so I told my 13year old daughter to check or fold everything unless I had AA, KK, or QQ and then push all in. She did what I said and when I came back after using 3/4 of a can of spray that exact hand except i caught it on the flop. Everyone at the table was like WTF? Link to post Share on other sites
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