Home Game Wtf Ruling

[KUPoker5 0]

I was playing a home game the other night with people who have been playing poker for 3-4 years now, so we all should know the general rules of the game...or so I thought. I was definitely confused at this ruling, but maybe I'm just an idiot.I'll start out with useless information just to set the situation up. We were playing a 6 handed table in the middle stages of a 27-person tournament. I'm on the button, and everyone limps around to me. I look down at AA and limp like an idiot (but that's not the point here). The BB raises to 4x the BB, and it folds around to me, and I call...SB folds. The flop comes TT3 rainbow, and he bets out and I call being weary that he might have hit trips. Turn is a blank, and we both check (now I'm not sure what he's doing). River is another blank, no flush draws or straight draws on the board, but he bets half his stack. I think about it for a bit since the checking on the turn showed some weakness in his hand (maybe he has a 3 or low pocket pair). I finally say "This may be a very stupid call, but I'm gonna make it. I call." At that point he instamucks his hand, pretty much letting me know he was completely bluffing at it and was embarrased to show whatever junk he was holding. At that point I assume the pot is mine and throw my cards in face down while reaching for all the chips. An old guy at the table stops me dead. "Son, you mucked your hand too. Neither one of you wins the hand. It's a split pot." I couldn't tell what other people though about it, but of course the guy who mucked first agreed with the old guy. It was still early in the game, and I didn't want to be a whiny ***** at the table, so I let it go since I got my chips back.I can't seem to think that's a good ruling, but then again that's the first time someone's ever mucked at a showdown. According the tournament rules, do you have to table the winning hand at showdown or can you muck after the hand is what I considered dead? With my thinking, once he threw in his cards, the pot was mine.

[cubsfan44 0]

I was playing a home game the other night with people who have been playing poker for 3-4 years now, so we all should know the general rules of the game...or so I thought. I was definitely confused at this ruling, but maybe I'm just an idiot.I'll start out with useless information just to set the situation up. We were playing a 6 handed table in the middle stages of a 27-person tournament. I'm on the button, and everyone limps around to me. I look down at AA and limp like an idiot (but that's not the point here). The BB raises to 4x the BB, and it folds around to me, and I call...SB folds. The flop comes TT3 rainbow, and he bets out and I call being weary that he might have hit trips. Turn is a blank, and we both check (now I'm not sure what he's doing). River is another blank, no flush draws or straight draws on the board, but he bets half his stack. I think about it for a bit since the checking on the turn showed some weakness in his hand (maybe he has a 3 or low pocket pair). I finally say "This may be a very stupid call, but I'm gonna make it. I call." At that point he instamucks his hand, pretty much letting me know he was completely bluffing at it and was embarrased to show whatever junk he was holding. At that point I assume the pot is mine and throw my cards in face down while reaching for all the chips. An old guy at the table stops me dead. "Son, you mucked your hand too. Neither one of you wins the hand. It's a split pot." I couldn't tell what other people though about it, but of course the guy who mucked first agreed with the old guy. It was still early in the game, and I didn't want to be a whiny ***** at the table, so I let it go since I got my chips back.I can't seem to think that's a good ruling, but then again that's the first time someone's ever mucked at a showdown. According the tournament rules, do you have to table the winning hand at showdown or can you muck after the hand is what I considered dead? With my thinking, once he threw in his cards, the pot was mine.

I agree

[stan394 0]

don't play at that home game anymore

[profxavier9 0]

I agree

your on fire today. i concur

[kkot 0]

ALWAYS table your winning hands.

[Sunny 0]

lol @ split potare you supposed to put the cards in your pocket until the end of the tournament?

[El Guapo 8]

I've got caught bluffing and done what the other guy did, and you do not have to show your cards. I have done that twice in a casino because I did not want people to see how bad of a bluff I was on, the other player never showed his cards. Old Guy Screwed You!

[Potsie P 0]

If more than five seconds passed between when the old guy not in the hand called you "Son" and when you didn't punch him in the face and yell, "Who asked you, BLUE?" then it's definitely a split pot.

[bigbrennan 0]

Please use this reply:"Dad, jog on"Scoop the pot in and chuckle to yourself whilst thinking of

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[David_Nicoson 1]

At one point in the hand, all six of you had hands so you should split it six ways.Umm, no. You got ****ed.

[jtambourine 0]

the other guy forfeited the pot by mucking his hand. it is now your choice whether or not you wish to showdown your hand. it's your pot either way.

[DrZoidberg 0]

that's probably the most retarded ruling i've ever heard of. How could 5 other people who are playing poker agree with something like that? As soon as you're the only person with unmucked cards you win the whole pot, I could understand if everyone wanted to make the other guy show his hand, you "paid" to see it, but regardless there's no way in hell I'd let anyone tell me that the pot wasn't mine in that situation. you got punk'd

[NoSup4U 0]

its your pot, the old man was wrong.mark

[jethrodull 0]

def got hosed there dude...that's why you ALWAYS do one of 2 things - 1) show your hand and claim the pot...2) hold your cards until the chips are pushed to you and then muckI woulda probably been tossed out after punching pops in the chopsJ

[13CARDS 0]

LESSON:Do not give the dealer your cards until the dealer has given you the pot. Wordds to live by...in poker and in purchasing narcotics!

[TheDelta 0]

With my thinking, once he threw in his cards, the pot was mine.

It was, at least after every set of poker rules I know about. Still, to be on the safe side, I'd do what the other people already said in the thread, either show or wait until the chips are in your hand before mucking.

[Merby 3]

ALWAYS table your winning hands.

That is unneeded here. His opponent mucked, so the pot is his.

[13CARDS 0]

That is unneeded here. His opponent mucked, so the pot is his.

Correct... but to aviod situations like this, do like I said and jethrodull said!!

[Hockey Guy 4]

LOL you actually forfeited half the pot to that hair brained ruling? That just mind numbing stupid ruling.carry on

[BeaverStyle 1]

el oh el muckamentsI've been in situations where people give their perspective of a ruling.. one that they "heard at the casino" or "heard at another home game" and if it's not something I've heard to be true unanimously on these forums or in the countless poker articles I've read... I will argue my case till the bitter end. I would honestly request my buy-in back and leave. I suppose in your case it depends on the relationship you have with people in this game, but man... what an idiotic ruling.If that old guy would have told me that, I would have laughed so hard, and raked in the pot. I wouldn't even have given his comment any thought... hoping he was joking.

[DCJ001 0]

THE SHOWDOWN1. To win any part of a pot, a player must show all of his cards faceup on the table, whether they were used in the final hand played or not.http://www.readybetgo.com/poker/rules/gene...-rules-217.html

[13CARDS 0]

THE SHOWDOWN1. To win any part of a pot, a player must show all of his cards faceup on the table, whether they were used in the final hand played or not.http://www.readybetgo.com/poker/rules/gene...-rules-217.html

There was no showdown. The villian mucked his cards.The rule written covers people that table one card and not another or that declare they play the board and do not show their hole cards.

[DCJ001 0]

There was no showdown. The villian mucked his cards.The rule written covers people that table one card and not another or that declare they play the board and do not show their hole cards.

Once the river card was dealt, there was a bet, and a call, there was a showdown.

[Sunny 0]

Once the river card was dealt, there was a bet, and a call, there was a showdown.

Whereby neither played actually SHOWED down

[13CARDS 0]

Once the river card was dealt, there was a bet, and a call, there was a showdown.

It was time for showdown... however, one player mucked his cards. Are you saying you would not award the pot to the OP if he held his cards face down and awaited the chips? You would declare him a loser?