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1/2 Nlhe (6 Max) Tptk Facing Checkraise


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I hate TPTK when playing with deep stacks in a rapidly growing pot.UTG is 55/18 through 11 hands. It's a small sample size, but he is definitely looking fishy...SB is my main concern. He is 21/10 through 204 hands, and I respect his play. I can't remember him stepping out of line.Can anyone put up an argument for calling (or even raising) this turn? Does anyone play the flop differently?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)SB ($364.95)Hero ($573.45)UTG ($137.05)MP ($200)CO ($262.20)Button ($292)Preflop: Hero is BB with Aspade.gif, Kheart.gif. UTG calls $2, 3 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $8, UTG calls $6, SB calls $6.Flop: ($24) 2spade.gif, 8spade.gif, Aclub.gif(3 players)SB checks, Hero bets $14, UTG calls $14, SB raises to $45, Hero calls $31, UTG folds.Turn: ($128) Qdiamond.gif(2 players)SB bets $88, Hero...?

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I can put up an argument for folding the flop more than I can for calling or shoving the turn. Or pushing the flop over a call or shove on turn.I play hand the same and fold turn, but I wish I could fold the flop more often here against a tightish player.

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i don't know about calling the flop if he hasn't gotten out of line yet, he could easily have aces up or 2-2, but still it is a tough laydown on the flopyou pretty much have to fold the turn, he's not going off for a big number with a weak ace after you call his flop raise, he has at least two pair for sure

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are you kidding me? You have TOP TOP. It should never be folded!I like the flatty on the flop, and I like your laydown on the turn, assuming u did it.

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I like how you played it. I don't see this being a bluff on the turn, and there isn't a hand he is value betting that you beat. If he's decided to play a flush draw strong then so be it. If you never get bluffed you're paying off too much.

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When he bets two thirds+ of the pot on the turn, I think you are def. behind. It seems almost certainly to a set of eights or deuces (although, it seems to me whenever I think someone has a set, they actually have two pair and vise versa). If you have a reason to suspect that this player knows what he is doing, then his turn bet seems to be a value/pot odds blocker to price you out. I probably fold.I don't mind a call on the flop and see what develops. He could have a flush draw and slow down on the turn, or you could turn a nut spade draw. And you have position. But the turn here is a certain fold.

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FYI, you can't base anything about someone's pokertracker numbers after two orbits. If you saw the hands he showed down or how he played something, that's one thing.I am probably folding the turn here. I am often reraising the flop though since we have the As.

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FYI, you can't base anything about someone's pokertracker numbers after two orbits. If you saw the hands he showed down or how he played something, that's one thing.I am probably folding the turn here. I am often reraising the flop though since we have the As.
I agree completely... but, um... we're not sitting 100-handed at this table. I tend to trust the players numbers after 50 hands, and I have played over 200 hands with this particular opponent.EDIT... Oh, I see. you're talking about the UTG player. I agree with you there, but the way he played these 11 hands made me suspicious. He also bought in for something like $144.16 and posted UTG. It's surprising how reliable those two tells are in picking out the bad players.
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Yep, I agree with everyone who said I should fold to the turn bet......Unfortunately, in this particular hand, I was married to my TPTK (for whatever reason) and called.River: ($304) K :club:(2 players)SB checks, Hero...?Against trips, I am still dead, but I just sucked out against two pair and now my opponent has given up the betting lead.Should I bet for value here, and if so, how much?Remaining stacks and the pot size at this point:Pot: $304Hero: $432SB: $223.95

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Should I bet for value here, and if so, how much?Remaining stacks and the pot size at this point:Pot: $304Hero: $432SB: $223.95
The good news is that you're almost certainly winning. The bad news is that he probably doesn't have 2 pair and likely never had you beat so he'll have to make a tough call of any bet on the river. I shove becuase it looks kinda desperate from a busted flush draw. If he has Ax, he may look you up.
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