shinzilla 0 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Button's stats are 75/15/1.8. UTG is a TAG regular who I believe plays an 18/16 game.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)SB ($43.30)Hero ($85.05)UTG ($49.25)MP ($49.25)CO ($45.50)Button ($152.65)Preflop: Hero is BB with A, K. UTG raises to $1.75, 2 folds, Button calls $1.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $7.75, UTG calls $5.50, Button calls $5.50.Flop: ($22.50) 4, 3, J(3 players)Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks.Turn: ($22.50) 5(3 players)Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks.River: ($22.50) 2(3 players)Hero bets $10, UTG calls $10, Button raises to $62, Hero...Really? Does he really have the 6? Is it worth calling down here? Also, what line is best on the river? I don't know if I like my bet sizing, or even a bet at all. Link to post Share on other sites
Heels930 0 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Its not terribly unlikely that he has a hand like 66 here I guess... I probly muck my A-5 here. Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Ummm......I'll get back to you when I can come up with a reason to call... Link to post Share on other sites
da_suit 0 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 I dont like the river bet. Most of the time you'll never get called by a hand that you outright beat. I would check-call most bets. Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 ...I got nothing. Fold. Link to post Share on other sites
sabes99 0 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 first off, i think you have to keep the lead on the flop after re-raising from OOP and represent a big pair, you might have won the pot that way the way it looksas played, i think i make a small value bet on the river, maybe $6 or something like that, and hope to get called down by a middle pair...clearly for him to raise you he has a straight or nothing, and unless he has nothing you are drawing to half this pot...if you feel like he could be bluffing then you have to call him and hope he's got squadoosh or it's a chop, otherwise i think your money should be saved for better spots Link to post Share on other sites
Money022 0 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Goo, bad spot. No c-bet on the flop after that strong of a reraise? If you do call you're chopping at best to another ace and splitting the other players money, or you're losing to 66. Probably best to fold and save your money for the next hand. Link to post Share on other sites
shinzilla 0 Posted July 11, 2007 Author Share Posted July 11, 2007 I thought the button was so bad that he would call with any type of pair or draw, regardless of how much strength I'd shown pf (and would show with a flop c-bet). I usually c-bet after 3-betting pf, but because of the presence of the button and the mediocre flop texture, I decided against it. Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Fold, if button is bluffing here, give him props and make a note. Link to post Share on other sites
Craigdog 0 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 I would have definately followed up with a bet on the flop about 2/3 of pot, the check kinda gives away AQ suited or AK to me. I think you are definately beat on the river most likely 66 or even 76 suited, at best it's a tie, it's certainly a good bet from the button! Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 I don't see the value in the river bet. I certainly don't call the raise. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 If it were Pai Gow Poker, you'd have the 2nd nuts. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 I don't see the value in the river bet. I certainly don't call the raise. If it were Pai Gow Poker, you'd have the 2nd nuts.If it were Pai Gow Poker, he'd also be at a distinct and unbeatable disadvantage to the house edge. Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Regarding the title, the villain makes a pot-sized raise on the end. When I read overbet, I think of "overbetting the pot". Link to post Share on other sites
shinzilla 0 Posted July 11, 2007 Author Share Posted July 11, 2007 Results: I ended up folding. Like most of you suggested, I should've check/called the river. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 If it were Pai Gow Poker, he'd also be at a distinct and unbeatable disadvantage to the house edge.Na, you don't get it.The only way to beat Pai Gow is to drink enough free drinks to make up for your negative edge.It's a skill game, really. Link to post Share on other sites
Lavitz 0 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 This is like instafold. Link to post Share on other sites
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