Gargoyle97 0 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 9-Handed, LHE, 6-12Kind of a strange table swings from tight to loose every couple of rounds. Lots of aggressive play preflop and on the flop.Button appears to be TAG. My image is tight and maybe weak-tight post flop, I just laid down a flop continuation bet when it came two bets back to me.Preflop: Hero is CO with , . 3 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, Button 3-bets,2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls.Flop: (10.3 SB) , , (3 players)MP2 checks, Hero checks, Button bets, 1 folds, Hero calls.Turn: (6.2 BB) (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets, Hero?Should I have peeled on the flop?What should I do on the turn? Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I cap this preflop every time. MP2 is being trapped, giving you good value.As played, I c/r the flop. I think most people underestimate the value of this kind of hand.As played, this is a fairly standard call down. He can easily be betting overpairs or AQ with no spade, and he can easily have the As. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I would c/r the flop as well.This lets us know where MP2 is in the hand. If he raises, we can obv fold. If he calls, we can assume we're ahead enough to raise for value here. If we get 3-bet, we can figure out whether we're drawing live often enough to continue.As played, calling down is best, imo. Link to post Share on other sites
sabes99 0 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 i'm ok with the play before the flop, you are out of position, although i understand we could be against a wide range...i cap if we have J-Ji c/r the flop, you might have the best hand and if you don't you probably have the spade to fall back on, the only way you're in big trouble is if he has a bigger pair and a bigger spadeas played, i call down Link to post Share on other sites
sdc12303 0 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Yeah I would call down for sure Link to post Share on other sites
Zelphade 0 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 i think calling down is correct also.. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 i think calling down is correct also..Do you ever contribute your own ideas/thoughts?Or are you just going to continue to mindlessly up your post count, without contrinuting anything of actual substance? Link to post Share on other sites
Moneyball16 0 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Do you ever contribute your own ideas/thoughts?Or are you just going to continue to mindlessly up your post count, without contrinuting anything of actual substance?This bothers me as well. My post count would be very large if I posted in every strat thread I read to say "I agree with the consensus". Most of my posts have been either first replies to threads, replies giving possible alternate lines/extended arguments for possible lines, or posts where there seems to be quite a bit of argument over two different lines where I will try to add weight to the line I feel is best when it is this close. I think if everyone were more like this the strat forums would be improved. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Do you ever contribute your own ideas/thoughts?Or are you just going to continue to mindlessly up your post count, without contrinuting anything of actual substance?while it seems a few new posters have been posting a lot lately in the strategy forums (Dr..something comes to mind) Zelphade has been around for a while and just started posting in Strategy. I don't recall if he/she used to a long time ago.In any event, is it so wrong to just say your opinion, even if it parrots the established one?I like variety in here and wonder if elitism doesn't run some off. Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 I cap this preflop every time. MP2 is being trapped, giving you good value.i dont, but it would depend on button's 3-betting range.CO vs button i would tend to cap it, thoughalso, what about just leading the flop instead of c/r it?we might get a more honest response from button Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Yeah, I prolly cap cuz of MP2. I tend to cap TT prolly 70% of the time, I'd say. (6-max) Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Yeah, I prolly cap cuz of MP2. I tend to cap TT prolly 70% of the time, I'd say. (6-max)i know you havent played full ring much lately, but it's not so automatic cap there. i dont even cap JJ most of the time.then again, ive hit a big downswing and am trying to plug some leaks. that could be one of them. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 i know you havent played full ring much lately, but it's not so automatic cap there. i dont even cap JJ most of the time.then again, ive hit a big downswing and am trying to plug some leaks. that could be one of them.I think a lot of it has to do with style.I do tend to cap pretty lightly, especially when I'm in a steal position, vs a potentially light 3-bet. I do it probably 100% of the time when a blind 3-bets me, since I have position, but I will do it when I've done nothing but show down strong hands, even when I'm OOP.Also, it's almost entirely based on my reads on villain.I do play a bit of FR here and there still, btw. Lately I've been mixing in a 5/10 full with my 3/6 short, since they both require the same bankroll, so I'm not that rusty , although I've been getting killed there, lol. Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 I can't imagine capping this OOP preflop is a good idea. We're so susceptible to overcards and we're pricing him in to fish for the turn if he doesn't flop well?I kind of want to lead the flop and turn if we're going to c/c, but I guess if we ever get raised we think fold, unless we spike a 10. Link to post Share on other sites
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