Jrobb25 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Just came across this2005-04-20 16:00:00Title: Daniel Negreanu EliminatedLog: After a multi-way flop of 9-3-2 rainbow, there was a bet to Negreanu, and he raised it up. The player acting behind him effectively put him all in, and Negreanu said, "I've only got five-high, but I'll call," and he pushed in his last $30,000 or so. The player asked again, and he reaffirmed his hand, showing 5-4 suited for an open-ended straight draw. The other player showed 10-9 suited for top pair. Negreanu asked if anyone had folded an ace when the turn card fell with a blank diamond. (Unfortunately, there were no diamonds on the flop, so he didn't even have the benefit of a runner-runner flush draw.) A 5 on the river gave him a pair, but not enough to stay alive, and Daniel Negreanu was eliminated from the tournament. Link to post Share on other sites
powerpoker 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 yea just read that on cardplayer...that sucks...day two geez...it didnt seem that his table lineup was all that difficult today i wonder if the cards werent cooperating again...i guess we will have to wait for him to tell us...sucks though Link to post Share on other sites
ebbik 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Sorry to hear it. At least he made it through half the field. Link to post Share on other sites
TruePoker 1 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Did he have the odds to call that? Because even if his opponent was bluffing, Negreanu still had nothing at all. Link to post Share on other sites
Tman 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 oh well, but I saw chan, brunson, hansen are also out so maybe he can get a 4k/8k game going tonight. Link to post Share on other sites
SabaAba 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Yeah but with blinds of only 600/1200, why did he call 30K of his chips with an openended str8 draw? Seems like a bad play to me.Like I'm the one to judge his play, LOL. Link to post Share on other sites
srblan 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Did he have the odds to call that? Because even if his opponent was bluffing, Negreanu still had nothing at all.He didn't have a very big stack, so almost any action that Daniel took would probably have pot-stuck him. Link to post Share on other sites
Nudjer 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Was wondering that too about the odds. Put your tourney life on the line on a draw? Must of had a good read on the guy maybe? Not sure. How how are the blinds now? 30k in chips is not that much but don't think he was in need to double up that bad. Link to post Share on other sites
srblan 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Yeah but with blinds of only 600/1200, why did he call 30K of his chips with an openended str8 draw? Seems like a bad play to me.Like I'm the one to judge his play, LOL.There was a bet, he raised, and he got put all in. He was probably committed. Link to post Share on other sites
NortonFan 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 She's been slapping us around all day," Tom McEvoy said. "Especially Daniel." She is Kaelaine of Poker School Online. She must me. Minton has about 120k. Daniel Negreanu is on fumes. Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Was wondering that too about the odds. Put your tourney life on the line on a draw? Must of had a good read on the guy maybe? Not sure. How how are the blinds now? 30k in chips is not that much but don't think he was in need to double up that bad.he plays for first place, making the money isn't his thing, he pretty much needed a double up to continue with his style of play in tournaments Link to post Share on other sites
Smiff85 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 yeh just read it to pity really thought he was cruisin, sure he'll explain his thinkin behind the final hand in his blog so we can judge if it was a bad play or not. A Link to post Share on other sites
SportsW234 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 He must of been below $30000 to make that call. Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 yeh just read it to pity really thought he was cruisin, sure he'll explain his thinkin behind the final hand in his blog so we can judge if it was a bad play or not. AWE can't judge a damn thing on his play Link to post Share on other sites
TruePoker 1 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Fair enough, I just thought he called all his stack on a draw, because he didnt really have much else apart from 45 (cant really think this is an out because he could easily be holding an ace) 44(not likely) 55 (not likely either).I am not saying I know what I am doing, just wondering what the exact situation was? I am guessing like somone said that he made a play for the pot and the other guy wasn't moving. Perhaps he thought that the flop had pretty high fold equity for the other guy ! Link to post Share on other sites
Smiff85 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 of course we can judge his play thats what a forum's for.A Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 of course we can judge his play thats what a forum's for.Acriticize it all you wan't but you can't judge it for shit Link to post Share on other sites
Jrobb25 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Author Share Posted April 20, 2005 he was only about 15K when he made that call......guess it wasnt meant to be. I guess he can go home tonight and watch himself win the WPT event on TV tonight to boost his spirits.....or do what I do and grab myself a beer and listen to some Bruce Springsteen in the dark. Link to post Share on other sites
Smiff85 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 of course we can judge his play thats what a forum's for.Acriticize it all you wan't but you can't judge it for shit[/quotearen't criticizing it and judging it sort of the same thing? anyways im not really that bothered just saying that i'm sure we'll get to hear his thinking behind the hand because it seems as though people are a bit puzzled why he went out on a busted draw.A Link to post Share on other sites
srblan 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 600-1200 with a 200 ante means that it costs 3800 a round to play, 30000 would definitely need to take some risks to double up. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 So let me get this right.Suited up went all in on his final hand with a straight and Danny went all in on his final hand with a straight draw. Who taught who at that dinner? Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 So let me get this right.Suited up went all in on his final hand with a straight and Danny went all in on his final hand with a straight draw. Who taught who at that dinner?the server Link to post Share on other sites
LAPoker 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 yeh just read it to pity really thought he was cruisin, sure he'll explain his thinkin behind the final hand in his blog so we can judge if it was a bad play or not. Â AWE can't judge a damn thing on his playAh yes we can, thats the point of a message board. Just because he is one of the greatest players, does not mean that he always plays perfectly. Like the guy who told me do you know who that guy is that your being a smart ass too. He said that's the 1999 world champion. Well 5 hands later the world champion went out on a dumb bluff. Everyone makes mistakes thats why these 4 and 5 day touenys are so hard to win. You have to play near perfect for 4 or 5 days. Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Ah yes we can, thats the point of a message board. Just because he is one of the greatest players, does not mean that he always plays perfectly. Like the guy who told me do you know who that guy is that your being a smart ass too. He said that's the 1999 world champion. Well 5 hands later the world champion went out on a dumb bluff. Everyone makes mistakes thats why these 4 and 5 day touenys are so hard to win. You have to play near perfect for 4 or 5 days.as I stated earlier, criticize his play all you want but don't "judge" his play Link to post Share on other sites
l0wryder 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 as I stated earlier, criticize his play all you want but don't "judge" his playWhat does that mean? Link to post Share on other sites
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