Tempted By The Devil Seconds After Losing Faith In God

[keith crime 8]

This has nothing to do with the WSOP. I’m playing 2-5 NL at the Rio. The guy to my left is a solid player. The guy to his left is a drunk with a ton of chips. The Drunk raises to 30 or so and the solid player calls with Q8 suited, ok maybe he isn’t that solid.The flop is Q J 8 with two clubs. Sober guy checks. Drunk guys bets 100. Sober guy check raises another 170. Drunk guy acts like he has Aces and insta-calls. Turn is a red 4. Sober guy bets 200 more. Drunk guy obviously isn’t going to fold and calls. The river is a nightmare for the sober guy. It’s the jack of hearts and his two pair have been counterfeited. He has about 150 left, and it’s pretty apparent the drunk guy isn’t going to fold so he checks. Drunk guy goes all in. Sober guy turns into angry guy and hurls his cards at the dealer in disgust.Here’s where it gets uglier. Drunk guy shows AK of clubs. He had a huge draw and bluffed the river. Drunk guy immediately goes into a Humberto Brenes type dance, as angry guy becomes insane guy. Drunk guy leaves to brag without stacking his chips. Now Furious guy pushes them all over to Drunk guy’s spot like a true jerk. This is when I find myself on the button with Queens. I raise to thirty and both drunk guy and furious guy call. The flop is Q99 and I can see all the money I’m going to take in from the drunk maniac and the guy on super tilt. Tilt checks. Drunk bets 5. I call looking disgusted. Tilt raises 50. Wonderful! Drunk calls and I move all in for 300 more. Tilt calls immediately for his last 200. Drunk actually folds 10 J showing some rare restraint, and I’m left wishing that tilt had won the last pot.Tilt has J9. The turn is a Jack and of course the river is a 9. I’m flabbergasted. Tilt hasn’t turned over his cards, but I have to be beat. I show my Queens. Tilt shows his J9.This is where it gets interesting. The dealer pushes the pot to me. That 9 on the river clearly has shown me that if there is a God he doesn’t give a flying … er care about my benefit. Immediately, as I see the dealer scooping up the cards into the muck, I realize that if I scoop the pot into my chips that the Rio is going to have a pretty hard time taking that $600 away from me, and sadly I can actually use the money. Tilt guy starts going berserk as I’m faced with the decision whether my soul, which has taken a lot of hits of late, is worth $600. I couldn’t do it, I pushed the money back to him along with the extra $200 I needed to match his stack. I then lose all faith in Karma as I go on to lose even more of my hard earned cash. Do evil soulless people have more fun? Probably, but I don’t have it in me. Maybe I should take up competitive hopscotch instead.

[Scanner313 0]

Well, you're right, there is no god, so don't sweat it.However, you did the right thing not "stealing" that guys pot. Yes he sucked out on you royally, but a winning hand is a winnner, regardless of how or when it came.

[Dogpatch 2]

You did the "right" thing.I was in a hand. Guy called me all the way down with 22. I had Tx (Probably J, I forget). Flop comes Txx giving me top pair and a fair kicker. Turn comes a T for trips. (I forget the action, but I know I bet something) River a 2.We bet/call and he shows and says "I have trip deuces." I'm like oh cool, "I have trip Tens." The dealer kills his hand and pushes me the pot. As I'm reaching for it, it hits me that the guy had a boat. His cards are retrievable, I tell the dealer and the guy gets the pot.It sucks, but I'd have felt like crap sitting there playing with those chips. Also it was a tourney so that's a little different than a cash game.

[Pot Odds RAC 23]

You did the absloute right thing. I'd have done the same thing - I know because of the time a guy Rivered a straight against me - he and the dealer missed it and shipped me his stack. One other player and I realized what was happening as the guy left the table to go to the cage to reload. I called him back, explained what happened and gave him his money.Nothing "instant" about Karma....except for the fact that you IMMEDIATELY lived in a better world.

[steve73 0]

I'm pretty sure if someone says something they will review a tape of the hand and correct it. If it happened to me and my opponent nor anyone else noticed I'm not sure if I would say anything, I'll post it if it ever happens.

[Webslinger516 0]

Nothing "instant" about Karma....except for the fact that you IMMEDIATELY lived in a better world.

Awesome statement.

[nutzbuster 7]

You're a good guy Brad.Most would have taken the money.But sadly, we all know how "good guys" finish.......

[BeaverStyle 1]

You're a good guy Brad.Most would have taken the money.But sadly, we all know how "good guys" finish.......

in a clumped up napkin?Obv you did the right thing OP, it's sick hands like that that make us part-time, semi-pro, pro and for-fun poker players degenerates... we just can't stop.

[Flushgarden 0]

Nothing "instant" about Karma....except for the fact that you IMMEDIATELY lived in a better world.

I like that a lot.

[silkyjonson 1]

It would have been douchey on your part to take the pot, and you still would have to give up the money. The hand was shown and people would have seen it so at any casino the floor would have been called and you would have had to ship the cheddar anyways.

[WowThats 0]

I saw exactly what you described happen not long ago. The dealer pushed the pot to the wrong player, the player who had the winning hand called for the room manager. The manager froze all action until they had a chance to review the tape. The Casino took the chips from the player and awarded them correctly. This player now wants to complain the card room manager tells the person the Nevada Gaming Control Board agents are in the casino he will ask them to review their written complaint. The guy drops it.BTW: you did the right thing even if you could have used the money... PS: There is a GOD, one and only true GOD.

[mtdesmoines 3]

... I then lose all faith in Karma as I go on to lose even more of my hard earned cash. Do evil soulless people have more fun? Probably, but I don’t have it in me. Maybe I should take up competitive hopscotch instead.

Monday night, I was $900 deep into a $2/5 game after the following events: Me: TTVillain J7Flop: JT2Villain goes (villain goes!) all in on the flop and hits runner runner sucker straight. That was only a $750 pot. I buy back, and I'm blinded down in a cash game over the course of 4 hours. I buy back, then double up the short stacks and bust out again in this three hand series: Me: EP JJ and raise to $40 PFVillain: throws in his last $80 from the BB. He has KK and it holds. Literally, the next hand: Me: UTG QQ and raise to $40 PFOld man villain in BB pushes his last $95. Of course I call. He has AA and it holds.Literally, the next hand: Me: KQ in BB in family $20 pot. Flop Q 7 2Villain: Ace-high naked flush draw. We get it in cause he has "I'm on an ace-high naked flush draw" painted on his shiny asian forehead ... naturally, he misses his flush, but turned his A and then proceeds to slow roll me, asking me if I have a set about 30 times. **** you, you little ****ing asian ****, turn over your ****ing ace and take the ****ing pot. All I have is this ****ing queen. Jesus, I hate you. Learn to hit your spade instead. ****ing **** ******. Makes it worse when two guys at the table say they folded aces and he hit the case ace. ***So anyway ... I find myself wandering to the restroom to beat off. (Clearly this is the only constructive response I can conceive of in light of this sequence of events). The long-term plan is to do some deep evaluation during my post-masturbatory afterglow if I have the heart to rebuy, take a **** and think about it when I'm done, commit suicide, or just end up going to my room (I'm on a work trip). Before I get to the can, I pass the ladies restroom door, and feel a little "tink" on the toe of my shoe. I look down and see a piece of jewelry skittering across the floor. I follow the twinkles, catch up to it and pick up a ladies wedding ring with a diamond the size of my thumbnail. (And, no, I'm not a midget.) Now, I know diamonds. The woman I married lost around three of these things and I know what they're worth. There's no one within 100 feet of me. I don't even see a casino camera here. But I slip the $10K +/- ring on my pinkie finger and transport this little piece of ice to the security team, and wait for them to call in a lost ring. Then I disappear. I don't leave my name for a reward or anything. I rely on Karma to pay me back.***I didn't rebuy, I went back the next night and got most of my money back. Last night, I played online and stayed even during a vile run of cards.And I got a kick-*** blowjob from a sweet little hottie about an hour ago. So things are working out.

[jjgoldy5 0]

Monday night, I was $900 deep into a $2/5 game after the following events: Me: TTVillain J7Flop: JT2Villain goes (villain goes!) all in on the flop and hits runner runner sucker straight. That was only a $750 pot. I buy back, and I'm blinded down in a cash game over the course of 4 hours. I buy back, then double up the short stacks and bust out again in this three hand series: Me: EP JJ and raise to $40 PFVillain: throws in his last $80 from the BB. He has KK and it holds. Literally, the next hand: Me: UTG QQ and raise to $40 PFOld man villain in BB pushes his last $95. Of course I call. He has AA and it holds.Literally, the next hand: Me: KQ in BB in family $20 pot. Flop Q 7 2Villain: Ace-high naked flush draw. We get it in cause he has "I'm on an ace-high naked flush draw" painted on his shiny asian forehead ... naturally, he misses his flush, but turned his A and then proceeds to slow roll me, asking me if I have a set about 30 times. **** you, you little ****ing asian ****, turn over your ****ing ace and take the ****ing pot. All I have is this ****ing queen. Jesus, I hate you. Learn to hit your spade instead. ****ing **** ******. Makes it worse when two guys at the table say they folded aces and he hit the case ace. ***So anyway ... I find myself wandering to the restroom to beat off. (Clearly this is the only constructive response I can conceive of in light of this sequence of events). The long-term plan is to do some deep evaluation during my post-masturbatory afterglow if I have the heart to rebuy, take a **** and think about it when I'm done, commit suicide, or just end up going to my room (I'm on a work trip). Before I get to the can, I pass the ladies restroom door, and feel a little "tink" on the toe of my shoe. I look down and see a piece of jewelry skittering across the floor. I follow the twinkles, catch up to it and pick up a ladies wedding ring with a diamond the size of my thumbnail. (And, no, I'm not a midget.) Now, I know diamonds. The woman I married lost around three of these things and I know what they're worth. There's no one within 100 feet of me. I don't even see a casino camera here. But I slip the $10K +/- ring on my pinkie finger and transport this little piece of ice to the security team, and wait for them to call in a lost ring. Then I disappear. I don't leave my name for a reward or anything. I rely on Karma to pay me back.***I didn't rebuy, I went back the next night and got most of my money back. Last night, I played online and stayed even during a vile run of cards.And I got a kick-*** blowjob from a sweet little hottie about an hour ago. So things are working out.

hahahahahahah

[Ben_G 0]

I'm pretty sure if someone says something they will review a tape of the hand and correct it. If it happened to me and my opponent nor anyone else noticed I'm not sure if I would say anything, I'll post it if it ever happens.

They actually wont review the tape in this situation, if the dealer pushes the pot to someone, it is up to the player to say since the cards are already mucked. If he had of decided to keep it the floor would have let him as there is nothing they can do in that situation.

[fighter 4]

If there is a god i hope he has better things to do then give a guy a 9 on the river. Why you looking for proof of god in a casinoYou asked if bad people have more fun. Well yes. If sins werent fun then why would anyone commit them.

[Czech Razor 0]

That's a good story, man. You made the morally correct decision. And morality aside, this guy who spiked the 9 was on such tilt that you just can't be sure if he'd ever try to find you later and try something...Anyways, I thought casinos had a "cards speak" rule so that if the dealer made a mistake it could still be corrected. Is that incorrect?

[Ben_G 0]

That's a good story, man. You made the morally correct decision. And morality aside, this guy who spiked the 9 was on such tilt that you just can't be sure if he'd ever try to find you later and try something...Anyways, I thought casinos had a "cards speak" rule so that if the dealer made a mistake it could still be corrected. Is that incorrect?

The cards where mucked and the dealer shipped the pot = person getting the pot better be honest or the other guy is SOL

[Czech Razor 0]

The cards where mucked and the dealer shipped the pot = person getting the pot better be honest or the other guy is SOL

That's stupid. So let's say Keith Crime decides to keep the pot and the player with the better hand calls the floor. Now let's say that player and like 3 others at the table say it was quads versus a boat and the pot went to the wrong person. Keith could just sit there and be like "I don't know what they're talking about" and the pot would remain his?Wow. Dealers aren't flawless by any stretch. That doesn't sound right to me.

[....Ian.... 0]

man thats a poopoo sick beatnever ever ever ever ever can u literally steal this pot. i dont think poker has ethics, but it does have rules.

[Ben_G 0]

That's stupid. So let's say Keith Crime decides to keep the pot and the player with the better hand calls the floor. Now let's say that player and like 3 others at the table say it was quads versus a boat and the pot went to the wrong person. Keith could just sit there and be like "I don't know what they're talking about" and the pot would remain his?Wow. Dealers aren't flawless by any stretch. That doesn't sound right to me.

Ya it is stupid but the casino uses the dealers opinion and even if he has shipped the pot the dealer can not take the pot back nor can any player at the table touch another players chips. Unfortunatly i have seen situations like this where the person has kept it before. Also had dealers set the deck down in the muck when i had QQ on a q 9 2 9 board and the other player had A9 and the pot was split even though we where both betting and i had the winning hand, the dealer was not able to take the deck out of the muck and i had to chop with the guy i had dominated.