no limit holdem - do u agree with this strategy?

[redfish 0]

I'm mostly referring to no limit 10 person cash games. The concept I believe is called the 5/10 rule regarding calling with small pocket pairs. I think what they say is if the preflop bet is 5% or less of the smallest stack in the hand you call because if you flop a set the payoff may be huge. 10% or more they say you fold.I don't think I agree with this but was wondering everyone's thoughts on this.Also, has anyone published a book where this is discussed?

[custom36 5]

I've never heard it and it doesn't sound like a good idea. Someone there could be severely short-stacked and then the theory doesn't work. There are so many variables in NL hold'em that no one theory can work all the time.

[allinbluff35 0]

I've never heard it and it doesn't sound like a good idea.  Someone there could be severely short-stacked and then the theory doesn't work.  There are so many variables in NL hold'em that no one theory can work all the time.

it's a cash game, you're never shortstacked. I use that principle, I'll call with any pocket pair unless the PF raise is more than 1/20(5%) of my stack

[CobaltBlue 662]

I've never heard it and it doesn't sound like a good idea. Someone there could be severely short-stacked and then the theory doesn't work. There are so many variables in NL hold'em that no one theory can work all the time.

it's a cash game, you're never shortstacked. I use that principle, I'll call with any pocket pair unless the PF raise is more than 1/20(5%) of my stack

I've never thought of it that way...as a percentage of my stack...but that actually makes a lot of sense (and is how I've been playing unconsciously). I'll usually call up to $2.50 pre-flop at .25/.50 (depending on the situation).

[redfish 0]

Since the odds of you flopping a set or better are 7.5:1, using the example of a .25/.50 no limit cash game. Suppose you call a $2 bet with a small pair, it's going to cost you $15 on average to eventually catch a set or better. That's also assuming that you don't get raised and have to put even more money in or even worse get bet out of the pot.In a game with .25/.50 blinds and a buy in of $50 at a no limit table, is it a reasonable assumption that you will make at least $15 when you do hit your set?Please correct me if I'm wrong about these numbers and let me know your opinion.

[PrtyPSux 0]

I'm mostly referring to no limit 10 person cash games.  The concept I believe is called the 5/10 rule regarding calling with small pocket pairs.  I think what they say is if the preflop bet is 5% or less of the smallest stack in the hand you call because if you flop a set the payoff may be huge.  10% or more they say you fold.I don't think I agree with this but was wondering everyone's thoughts on this.Also, has anyone published a book where this is discussed?

I heard that it was 7% of your stack as long as the raiser has a stack no less than %80 of yours.

[PrtyPSux 0]

I'm mostly referring to no limit 10 person cash games.  The concept I believe is called the 5/10 rule regarding calling with small pocket pairs.  I think what they say is if the preflop bet is 5% or less of the smallest stack in the hand you call because if you flop a set the payoff may be huge.  10% or more they say you fold.I don't think I agree with this but was wondering everyone's thoughts on this.Also, has anyone published a book where this is discussed?

I heard that it was 7% of your stack as long as the raiser has a stack no less than %80 of yours.

wait after I read it I might be wrong, it might be that he needs x amount of money more than the initial preflop bet,, i dunno i gotta check and ill get back to ya..

[Dlink 0]

I'm mostly referring to no limit 10 person cash games.  The concept I believe is called the 5/10 rule regarding calling with small pocket pairs.  I think what they say is if the preflop bet is 5% or less of the smallest stack in the hand you call because if you flop a set the payoff may be huge.  10% or more they say you fold.I don't think I agree with this but was wondering everyone's thoughts on this.Also, has anyone published a book where this is discussed?

It's subjective. The key is if you hit your flop does the person(s) you are calling have enough of a stack on the table that if he bets you'll get odds that are better than 7.5 to 1. Also you have to factor into this whether he is aggressive and will lead (better for you), position, what hands he plays so you can judge from the flop whether your trips are really ahead or not.If you are very lucky you can take down some very big pots. The best are the flops where X > Y and they come down X-X-Y and you have Y-Y in the pocket and haven't raised. If someone has X, X-Ace you should be able to take their stack.I've had trips that have barely made be the blinds in 0.25/0.5 games and I've had them take down $200 pots in these same games.Also note as players get better the effectiveness of this stratey decreases, it is good however against most buy ins up to about a $1,000 I find. I don't really buy in above that so wouldn't know!Sure it's in lots of books it is just a form of implied odds. If I make my hand how much money can i get into this pot. This is why I love NL -- it's so much more personal when you trap someone for 100 or 200 BB in one hand!