Queens

[mkeller3086 0]

Home Game.5/13 handedStacks:Hero (200)SB (125)The SB in this hand is a good, smart, aggressive player. For some reason he likes to raise a lot of hands out of the blinds. His initial raise could be a variety of hands such as small pairs, suited connectors, a pretty big range. He's capable of making a move since he sees me as a thinking player that can fold if I think I'm beat. Up to this point he had been playing pretty tight though, he's folded two good hands to bluffs that I have made on the river.Hero dealt QQ on the buttonPreflop:Hero calls, SB raises to 3, BB folds, Hero raises to 10, SB raises to 27, hero?We are getting about 2.5-1 to just call.

[Snamuh 0]

Call and re-evaluate the flop.

[fckthis 0]

Well...obviously this looks like your against a strong hand. Would Villian play JJ like this, or 1010, AK? If not, folding isnt wrong, because you would have to assume a large % of the time he has KK or AA.

[linkwood 0]

What is his 4 bet range? Has he seen you do something like this before with a big and/or small hand? What would he think your 3 bet range is? Without a good read my default is to call and re-evaluate the flop.

[Webslinger516 0]

We are getting about 2.5-1 to just call.

If you put him on KK or AA, then folding is correct since you'll only flop a set 1 in 7.5.You said he has a pretty big range for raising in the SB. But when he re-raises, you gotta feel his range is significantly narrower. I especially feel he is strong in this spot, since you just limped with QQ then reraised him after he raised his SB. You're representing a huge hand here and he still decided to reraise. The best you can hope for is that he has QQ also or maybe AK. I don't mind a fold here.

[mkeller3086 0]

Call and re-evaluate the flop.

So I called and we took a flop...Pot (~$54)Flop:862rSB bets 40 leaving about 50 behind. What's our evaluation?

[Webslinger516 0]

So I called and we took a flop...Pot (~$54)Flop:862rSB bets 40 leaving about 50 behind. What's our evaluation?

You're stuck now. You've got to push him, especially if he always continuation bets. I would have folded before the flop.

[mkeller3086 0]

damn i forgot to mention this....when the bb folded his hand it flipped face up and he had the K of diamonds...Does this shift the decision more towards one or the other?

[Webslinger516 0]

damn i forgot to mention this....when the bb folded his hand it flipped face up and he had the K of diamonds...Does this shift the decision more towards one or the other?

Ooooo interesting! It makes it less likely that he has KK. It might discourage him from seeing a flop if he has AK and thus wanted to reraise you out of the pot pre-flop. I still put him on a monster here like AA, QQ or JJ though. Maybe he felt his JJ got stronger after seeing the K fold. How strong was his demeanor? Did you feel he was not afraid of anything like he had the AA?

[fckthis 0]

Ok...wuts villians view of your limp rr? That would help out a lot. Cuz most ppl dont **** around without a hand here.

[Verdimme 0]

I really, really don't like the open limp OTB.PF, I think you have to make a judgement call, there is no right or wrong here in my eyes. If you feel he is making a stand against you, just go ahead an put it in. If you feel he has a strong hand, fold.As played, you are not getting away from this.

[mkeller3086 0]

Ok...wuts villians view of your limp rr? That would help out a lot. Cuz most ppl dont **** around without a hand here.

Well first, he knows that I know he will raise with a huge range of hands. So since I know this I don't necessarily need to have AA KK or something similar to make this play. I may even make this play sometimes with a hand like J10s just to keep the pressure on him since i'm in position. He also knows I am capable of folding, he would see me as a player that would think, "he raised my limp reraise, he must be very strong, my queens are no good". I have folded QQ before preflop in a short handed cash game and he knows about this hand. As for what he thinks about the limp reraise, I did it to him once like two years ago with AA, he has no recollection of the hand tho. But at the time when we showed our hands down he said, "Limp reraise, i thought you were full of it."Based on all of this I would say that its just as likely that he is trying to represent a big hand as having the big hand.I've played short handed cash games with this guy for atleast three years and we both know each other really well. He watches me online all the time and I do the same for him. So this isn't poker in a vacuum where you can easily muck the queens cause its 4 bet. He knows what I'm capable of (folding good hands) and will use that to his advantage

[Snamuh 0]

After that flop you are in a tough spot. It's about the best flop you could hope for, excluding a Q of course, but you still have no idea whether you are ahead of behind. If you really think that your opponent is likely to make a move on you here, you have to put him all-in. If he only 3 bets preflop with AA or KK, then you have to make the tough fold. Based on all you've said though, I think you have to go all-in.

[fckthis 0]

Well if hes as capable as you say, then QQ=nuts. Obviously you're getting this all in on the flop.

[TheCallingstation 0]

Call and re-evaluate the flop.

aggreed, you have position to work for you, no need to reraise and no need to fold obviously. call and see what the flop brings and how your opponent behaves. I mean this live play, so you can use your reading ability. in online poker this is a different story, but here everything says call

[mkeller3086 0]

This hand has probably seen about as much discussion as its going to get so I will post results. After catching a favorable flop and he bet 40 I raised all in. He thought for a while which was a good thing for me and decided that the 3-1 the pot was offering him was good enough to call with his 89 suited for top pair on the flop. He figured I had an overpair but the pot was laying him the right price to call.We ran it twice and I won both (lucky) and raked a nice pot.