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This is from the $10+1 Midnight Madness tourney on Full Tilt. I don't have much of a read on UTG, but MP1 has been pretty tight so far, and has folded multiple times post-flop to little pressure. Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Tourney Blinds: t25/t507 playersSeat 1: Big_D_514 (2,570)Seat 2: zusky (440)Seat 4: Button (1,525)Seat 5: UTG (1,335)Seat 6: YVirus (1,630) HEROSeat 7: MP1 (1,350) VILLAINSeat 8: Feral Hunter (2,905)Seat 9: Weasel Nyc (2,945)Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is UTG+1 with Qd Ad UTG calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB checks.Flop: 9d 6s Qh (t350, 7 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets t100, Hero raises to t450, MP1 raises all-in t1300, 5 folds, Hero ????

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Raise pfRaise pfRaise pfAs played I fold. There's no shame in going bust with TPTK in this type of tourney when the pot is raised - often the pot's big enough so that you're getting it all in against much weaker hands. But as played you can only pray that a tight player's overvaluing QJ or is pushing an 87 draw.

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Raising preflop is better, but limping isn't too bad.
I probably raise pf but your stack is deep enough where I don't mind a limp.As played, I call. I think that a set just cold calls you and lets you push in on the turn since there are no flush draws on that board. Two pair is a possibility but I see 78 and 10J or a weaker queen also out there.
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I probably raise pf but your stack is deep enough where I don't mind a limp.As played, I call. I think that a set just cold calls you and lets you push in on the turn since there are no flush draws on that board. Two pair is a possibility but I see 78 and 10J or a weaker queen also out there.
I don't see him with Q9, Q6, or 6-9, so I'm pretty much ruling out two pair. 6-6 and 9-9 are certainly possible, but so are 7-8, 10-j, k-q, q-j. I just think you're getting too good a price to fold. Plus you got the backdoor flush.
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Hmmm, I guess you should raise pre flop in this specific situation but in general I prefer to limp in EP (playing a raised pot oop is often very difficult, esp with a mediocre hand like AQ).As played, I probs call. It's a $10 MTT so villain's range is pretty wide I guess.

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Hmmm, I guess you should raise pre flop in this specific situation but in general I prefer to limp in EP (playing a raised pot oop is often very difficult, esp with a mediocre hand like AQ).
I agree that can be tricky, but you're not necessarily out of position if you raise here. I was a bit glib before. I don't understand the mentality of limping here, so I would never do it. As played, we have under-represented our hand, and I feel we really need to call. If the limp was playing for flush/straight value, then maybe we can find a fold here, but I think we're ahead of most of villain's range.
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Hmmm, I guess you should raise pre flop in this specific situation but in general I prefer to limp in EP (playing a raised pot oop is often very difficult, esp with a mediocre hand like AQ).As played, I probs call. It's a $10 MTT so villain's range is pretty wide I guess.
It is AQs...making it a lot less mediocre.
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It is AQs...making it a little less mediocre.
FYP
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It's fairly close but I'd fold. I dont see him having a draw often enough to justify a call.Ultimately, if you never get bluffed off a hand then you're calling too much.

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???
I just meant that AQ suited isn't that much better than AQ off preflop. That's what I heard anyway.. From some guy.
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I just meant that AQ suited isn't that much better than AQ off preflop. That's what I heard anyway.. From some guy.
Oh...well, that's why I said a little less mediocre...a little over 1% less. :club:
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Oh...well, that's why I said a little less mediocre...a little over 1% less. :club:
Yeah me too. That's what we said.
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I think that a set just cold calls you
man u must **** gold, cuz u make super dee duper posts. seriouslytop 2 is more likely than set IMO, and explains the push, i'd be worried about top 2, but i think between the times u suck out and the times ur already ahead make this call +EV
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