YBravo 0 Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 This is from the $10+1 Midnight Madness tourney on Full Tilt. I don't have much of a read on UTG, but MP1 has been pretty tight so far, and has folded multiple times post-flop to little pressure. Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Tourney Blinds: t25/t507 playersSeat 1: Big_D_514 (2,570)Seat 2: zusky (440)Seat 4: Button (1,525)Seat 5: UTG (1,335)Seat 6: YVirus (1,630) HEROSeat 7: MP1 (1,350) VILLAINSeat 8: Feral Hunter (2,905)Seat 9: Weasel Nyc (2,945)Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is UTG+1 with Qd Ad UTG calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB checks.Flop: 9d 6s Qh (t350, 7 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets t100, Hero raises to t450, MP1 raises all-in t1300, 5 folds, Hero ???? Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Raise pfRaise pfRaise pfAs played I fold. There's no shame in going bust with TPTK in this type of tourney when the pot is raised - often the pot's big enough so that you're getting it all in against much weaker hands. But as played you can only pray that a tight player's overvaluing QJ or is pushing an 87 draw. Link to post Share on other sites
YBravo 0 Posted June 5, 2007 Author Share Posted June 5, 2007 Raise pfRaise pfRaise pfyeah, I've been playing scared latelylol runningbadaments Link to post Share on other sites
rog 0 Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Raise pfRaise pfRaise pfAs played I fold.I think Trystero is being generous. There is no "as played". Raise pf. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Raising preflop is better, but limping isn't too bad. Link to post Share on other sites
gobears 0 Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Raising preflop is better, but limping isn't too bad.I probably raise pf but your stack is deep enough where I don't mind a limp.As played, I call. I think that a set just cold calls you and lets you push in on the turn since there are no flush draws on that board. Two pair is a possibility but I see 78 and 10J or a weaker queen also out there. Link to post Share on other sites
KentuckySlim 0 Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 I probably raise pf but your stack is deep enough where I don't mind a limp.As played, I call. I think that a set just cold calls you and lets you push in on the turn since there are no flush draws on that board. Two pair is a possibility but I see 78 and 10J or a weaker queen also out there.I don't see him with Q9, Q6, or 6-9, so I'm pretty much ruling out two pair. 6-6 and 9-9 are certainly possible, but so are 7-8, 10-j, k-q, q-j. I just think you're getting too good a price to fold. Plus you got the backdoor flush. Link to post Share on other sites
Jam-Fly 8 Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Hmmm, I guess you should raise pre flop in this specific situation but in general I prefer to limp in EP (playing a raised pot oop is often very difficult, esp with a mediocre hand like AQ).As played, I probs call. It's a $10 MTT so villain's range is pretty wide I guess. Link to post Share on other sites
rog 0 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Hmmm, I guess you should raise pre flop in this specific situation but in general I prefer to limp in EP (playing a raised pot oop is often very difficult, esp with a mediocre hand like AQ).I agree that can be tricky, but you're not necessarily out of position if you raise here. I was a bit glib before. I don't understand the mentality of limping here, so I would never do it. As played, we have under-represented our hand, and I feel we really need to call. If the limp was playing for flush/straight value, then maybe we can find a fold here, but I think we're ahead of most of villain's range. Link to post Share on other sites
Yahkin 0 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Hmmm, I guess you should raise pre flop in this specific situation but in general I prefer to limp in EP (playing a raised pot oop is often very difficult, esp with a mediocre hand like AQ).As played, I probs call. It's a $10 MTT so villain's range is pretty wide I guess.It is AQs...making it a lot less mediocre. Link to post Share on other sites
Sid Simelia 0 Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 It is AQs...making it a little less mediocre.FYP Link to post Share on other sites
Stuples 0 Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 It's fairly close but I'd fold. I dont see him having a draw often enough to justify a call.Ultimately, if you never get bluffed off a hand then you're calling too much. Link to post Share on other sites
Sid Simelia 0 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 ???I just meant that AQ suited isn't that much better than AQ off preflop. That's what I heard anyway.. From some guy. Link to post Share on other sites
Yahkin 0 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 I just meant that AQ suited isn't that much better than AQ off preflop. That's what I heard anyway.. From some guy.Oh...well, that's why I said a little less mediocre...a little over 1% less. Link to post Share on other sites
Sid Simelia 0 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Oh...well, that's why I said a little less mediocre...a little over 1% less. Yeah me too. That's what we said. Link to post Share on other sites
....Ian.... 0 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 I think that a set just cold calls youman u must **** gold, cuz u make super dee duper posts. seriouslytop 2 is more likely than set IMO, and explains the push, i'd be worried about top 2, but i think between the times u suck out and the times ur already ahead make this call +EV Link to post Share on other sites
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