Anybody Else Wish More Tournaments Were Like This..

[Sunny 0]

200 people buyin for $10, final 20 get paid the prizepool of $2000.$2000/20 = $100 each.I wish more tournaments were like this, a total flat prize payout. I very rarely play tournaments because I hate how top-heavy they are, I hate variance. With something like this I'd play 100 a day!

[BeaverStyle 1]

check out pstars, the double shootout sunday mil satellites.. 11.70 buyin, top 2 get $215 seats... not bad. Usually pay out to about 6-7 w/ money back + a little.

[cubsfan44 0]

hope ur shirt is flame retardent

[Naslund44 0]

OP, I couldn't disagree with you anymore.

[XXEddie 0]

OP, I couldn't disagree with you anymore.

I couldn't agree with you more

[chrozzo 19]

B O D O G

[litlebullet 0]

OP, I couldn't disagree with you anymore.

I'll try to be nice and just quote this.

[NocturnalRob 0]

I'll try to be nice and just quote this.

that's very considerate of you, bullet.

[chrozzo 19]

that's very considerate of you, bullet.

werd

[vbnautilus 48]

deja vu

[chrozzo 19]

deja vu

didnt u just say that?

[Fluffdog87 2]

didnt u just say that?

FLASHBACK WUT?

[Sunny 0]

loooooolEveryone was so kind, I feel I have failed.Yes I realise this takes away about 90% of what tournaments are about, but still, I'd love to see this sort of tournament as an option at Stars. Imagine being able to make 9 buyins in an hour or two. Fairly consistently.I see this as a perfect mixture of cash and tournament. You'd be able to make a very good return on your money, with far lower variance.

[GetSprung 0]

loooooolEveryone was so kind, I feel I have failed.Yes I realise this takes away about 90% of what tournaments are about, but still, I'd love to see this sort of tournament as an option at Stars. Imagine being able to make 9 buyins in an hour or two. Fairly consistently.I see this as a perfect mixture of cash and tournament. You'd be able to make a very good return on your money, with far lower variance.

100%...IDK where you got 90. The whole point of playing a big tourney with a small buy-in is the shot at a big payday for a couple hours of work. If everyone was playing for the same payout It'd be a major grind. Why do you think cash game pros are making the transition to tourneys? It's not for a flat payout, it's for the opportunity to make a huge score on a relatively small buy-in. End rant

[Sunny 0]

The whole point of playing a big tourney with a small buy-in is the shot at a big payday for a couple hours of work.

Definately the overriding factor as to why tournaments are popular is the chance of a big score, but the idea here is to level out the variance, by providing smaller, regular, payouts.I hate 1st and 2nd getting 50% of the prizepool, I'd rather take more common, smaller cashes than more rarer, large cashes (being a strictly cash game player myself).I think I can beat 90% of the field pretty easily, and regularly. I'd love to buyin for $10 and earn back $100. Think of this, enter a tourney 10 times for $10. If I reach the final 10% just 25% of the time, I'm up $150, or 15 buyins.While this takes out a lot of the fun, surely, for professionals atleast, it's about the money, not the fun.lol don't expect to be winning anyone over here..

[fighter 4]

It would take away people playing to win and just make them play to cash. It would create some horrible poker.

[psujohn 0]

OP, I couldn't disagree with you anymore.

I'm still trying to parse this sentence and figure out if you're agreeing or disagreeing. What with the double negative and I'm assuming the typo of "anymore" for "any more".I could see a flatter structure having some merits. Particularly in online tournament (but hell even in WPT final tables) blinds get so high that the difference between 1st and 2nd is overwhelmingly luck and not skill. Of course that's why we allow chops. A completely flat structure like you suggest however would have a third of the field sitting out as you near the bubble and they have stacks large enough to fold to the money. I think a payout structure that is progressive and weighted particularly toward the FT but doesn't have huge increases from 3rd to 2nd to 1st would fix things a lot. Though Sexton wouldn't be able to yell about the winner making "Over 1 MILLION DOLLARS".

[Jam-Fly 8]

OP, have you ever played a super satelitte? These have a completely flat payout structure. When around the bubble however, people tighten up and focus on eliminating the short stacks. In a normal MTT, yes, there is an element of this. But two big stacks bumping heads NEVER happens in a super sat. In a regular MTT tho, we can see some amazing poker when the big stacks attack each other (just use one of the WPTs JC went deep, he put his whole stack on the line against another big stack, this kind of amazing play would not happen if it was a 100% flat payout)I understand where your coming from, wher 25% of the prize pool should not go to first in a ridulously big field, but having a completely even payout is not the answer.

[TML28 0]

Sunny, Apparently you do not have the gears to play the end game. The Problem:With everyone makeing an equal share of the prize pool, the bubble would last longer then Zimmers last heads up match. It would take forever to bust the bubble. You would not get that tournement rush for finishing 1st, it would feel like the grind of a cash game witout the payoff.

[dfkdfk 0]

100%...IDK where you got 90. The whole point of playing a big tourney with a small buy-in is the shot at a big payday for a couple hours of work. If everyone was playing for the same payout It'd be a major grind. Why do you think cash game pros are making the transition to tourneys? It's not for a flat payout, it's for the opportunity to make a huge score on a relatively small buy-in. End rant

And why do you think the tournament players are making the transition to cash games? For less variance and steadier returns...Arguments are made for both sides. Personally I don't think it would hurt to have a few tournies like the OP described. A lot of people obviously don't like the idea but for those that do... whats the harm?

[Purify 0]

This type of flat tourney the OP suggests, is it not exactly like a MTT satellite???On stars they have numerous satellites everyday that are just like this..... however, as others have pointed out, once it gets down to near the bubble.... sometimes even 50 or so away... you get people who stall.... people who sit out.... and often your fighting just against the blinds.Its truly not as fun as you'd think with all sorts of non poker playing BS goin down...

[ghostlove 0]

i think it is a great idea.