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So i was playin a $75 tourney at my casino last week. Being your typical college kid i was probably playin outside of what i should...but hell...i felt like gamblin. top 7 cashed. It was a typical small casino tourney with crappy structure and fast blinds. i was 5th at table with 40k. blinds were 2k/4k. chip leader was to my right and had ~80k and was loose and aggressive. there were 3 stacks under 15k at the time. now....there were only 8 left so my chance of cashing was pretty good...then this dilemma comes up.im on button and pick up AK hearts. LAG chip leader raises to 28k....what do i do?payouts were 1800 to 1st and 200 to 7th if anyone is curious about the scale of pay. cashing is something i wanted to make sure i do.one curious note to point out is this guy loves to tell info about his hands. had done it all tourney and never lied once. i looked at him and asked if he had a pair and he said yea....when i asked how big he just shrugged his shoulders. so my choices are:1. fold and take my gurenteed cash 2. go all in and try and race...where if i miss, i dont cash.3. call and try and hit flop and fold if i miss. i know i will need a doubleup if i want to finish top 3 (where the money is) but is this the time to do it if cashing is also important to me?would calling off 70% of my chips with AK be a -EV play if i know that i hit my A or K on flop im winning the hand...and if i miss...i still have 12k if i fold on flop and i will still gurenteed cash.input anyone?

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i know i will need a doubleup if i want to finish top 3 (where the money is) but is this the time to do it if cashing is also important to me?would calling off 70% of my chips with AK be a -EV play if i know that i hit my A or K on flop im winning the hand...and if i miss...i still have 12k if i fold on flop and i will still gurenteed cash.input anyone?
calling there would be a poor play (plus if you believe that he has a small pair, then even if an A or a K flops, you might be behind a set)you are not guaranteed a cash if you only have 12K in chips left; it would seem to me that at that point you are right in the rat race with everyone else that is low on chipsthis is the problem with playing with scared money; you are afraid to make a play that you consider to be the right play (pushing all in - which is my play here, especially if I have a good read on the chip leader as a LAG player who is trying to bully people); if you were playing within your bankroll then you would push and go for the win and I think that should still be your correct play here;
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maybe i should add that it was out of bankroll at the time. hence cashing was my top priority. 2 of the stacks under 15k were UTG and UTG+1 so they would be in blinds next hands. if i call do i give myself best shot at winning while still not knocking myself out...thus almost guaranteeing goal #1 of cashing

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Muck itFrom your comments you said cashing was more important to you. Whether it's +EV or not, you have to take into consideration how important cashing is. Look at it this way, before the tournament began how would you have listed your goals in importance? Would winning have been first or would cashing have been first? I've been in that situation where cashing is more important, and yes you play more conservative on the button, but it's not like you can't still win the tournament it's just more difficult, then if you make the +EV play to get a large stack

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shove it pansies.
If simply cashing is more important, I strongly disagree.If you are sure that your read is right, and he has a pair, muck it.
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Well obviously the button doesn't matter, because you can't just call and put over 70% of your stack in the pot. If you do then you are committing yourself to the hand anyways. No matter what the flop comes, the rest of your chips are going in. You seem to be more worried about cashing than winning, which would imply that you sit on your 40k. This guarantees that you cash, and hopefully you can find a better spot than a race to get all of your chips in. A lot of these people will tell you that you should push, but if you are sure that he has a pair, then you don't really want to put your tournament at risk. If you had already made the money, then it would be a good play to put yourself in good position to win. I want to know what you actually ended up doing. I know what you are going through because I'm in college too, and $75 is playing over my head as well. There is no shame in folding right there.

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foldIf your goal is to cash, wait until you make the money and then be the one pushing instead of calling. The worst play here is the calling the flop and folding if you miss.

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Well obviously the button doesn't matter, because you can't just call and put over 70% of your stack in the pot. If you do then you are committing yourself to the hand anyways. No matter what the flop comes, the rest of your chips are going in. You seem to be more worried about cashing than winning, which would imply that you sit on your 40k. This guarantees that you cash, and hopefully you can find a better spot than a race to get all of your chips in. A lot of these people will tell you that you should push, but if you are sure that he has a pair, then you don't really want to put your tournament at risk. If you had already made the money, then it would be a good play to put yourself in good position to win. I want to know what you actually ended up doing. I know what you are going through because I'm in college too, and $75 is playing over my head as well. There is no shame in folding right there.
Final results: I chose to fold because I wanted to make sure I cashed. Ended up winning and taking down the $1800. Thanks for the input everyone
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Fold and shove over every short stack when the cl is out of the hand. OR shove, double up and get the Weither way seems fine with me as long as the short stacks are holding on for dear life.

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