NicksDad1970 0 Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 This was at the Gold Strike in Tunica.1-2NLHEBB - about $900button - $750hero - $400UTG raises to $7. fold, fold, I look down at QQ and raise to 27, fold, button raises to 50. BB calls everyone folds back to me. The guy that raised to 50 was real weird in the way he played. He didn't seem to do anything the way I thought he would. I was real scared of his miniraise so I just called. Flop - 8c8s2s. Checked to me, I check (good, bad, or ugly?) The button bets 100. BB thinks for 2-3 minutes and calls. I think for what seemed like an hour and folded(I'll explain my thoughts after responses. What should I have done if not folded?) turn - 9dchecked to the orig reraiser who went all in for 600ish.I'd love some feedback on all streets. thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Webslinger516 0 Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 The only hands you can beat here are AK, 1010 and JJ. 99 has trips and any other hand that makes sense has you crushed. As played, I don't mind the check to the reraiser on the flop, and after he bets and the bet is called, I think folding is the best option here. If they happen to have something stupid at the end of this hand like 1010, 99 or 77 then you'll have their money soon enough anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
NicksDad1970 0 Posted May 29, 2007 Author Share Posted May 29, 2007 The only hands you can beat here are AK, 1010 and JJ. 99 has trips and any other hand that makes sense has you crushed. As played, I don't mind the check to the reraiser on the flop, and after he bets and the bet is called, I think folding is the best option here. If they happen to have something stupid at the end of this hand like 1010, 99 or 77 then you'll have their money soon enough anyway.I folded on the flop so the 99 didn't have trips just yet. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 This was at the Gold Strike in Tunica.1-2NLHEBB - about $900button - $750hero - $400UTG raises to $7. fold, fold, I look down at QQ and raise to 27, fold, button raises to 50. BB calls everyone folds back to me. The guy that raised to 50 was real weird in the way he played. He didn't seem to do anything the way I thought he would. I was real scared of his miniraise so I just called. Flop - 8c8s2s. Checked to me, I check (good, bad, or ugly?) The button bets 100. BB thinks for 2-3 minutes and calls. I think for what seemed like an hour and folded(I'll explain my thoughts after responses. What should I have done if not folded?) turn - 9dchecked to the orig reraiser who went all in for 600ish.I'd love some feedback on all streets. thanksButton has AK. BB might have QQ, too. You'd have to think he'd re-raise with AA KK. Smooth call there screams QQ or JJ. This is HIGHLY read-dependent. I might go all in, too. I might fold. What do I read? Link to post Share on other sites
NicksDad1970 0 Posted May 29, 2007 Author Share Posted May 29, 2007 Button has AK. BB might have QQ, too. You'd have to think he'd re-raise with AA KK. Smooth call there screams QQ or JJ. This is HIGHLY read-dependent. I might go all in, too. I might fold. What do I read?If I had a raise and a reraise to me I don't think I'd reraise the min with AK. I'm not nearly as advance as many others in NLHE but is that something you would do in that situation?You're right about read dependent. The BB is a very loose tricky player. He's very willing to make a less than marginal call in hopes of hitting a flop and busting us both.For the most part the guy in the BB is a better player that I am. I'm pretty sure that is anyway. HE seems to read weakness very well. There was more than one time I'm sure he made some very big moves with total air.He has a gear I don't have at this time. I have a pretty tight image. Because of my tight image I had to bluff him at least once maybe one hour prior to this hand. (I really think that had ZERO % to do with the way he played this hand) Anyway I raised to $13 PF he called OOP. The flop came KJx rainbow. I knew he'd bet out because he knew I was a tight player. HE knew if I had anything I'd raise and he'd give it up. Anyway he led out for 25 on the flop. I raised it to 70. HE folded. I pushed my cards for him to look at. I had 3-5os.He was surprised to say the least. Link to post Share on other sites
Naismith 0 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I actually see the minreraise a lot with AK. Players feel obligated to raise with it but don't want to put too much in. I'm not saying that's the case here...just that it's not very raise. Link to post Share on other sites
TJ_Eckleburg 0 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I agree with Des Moines, it's very read dependent.I don't mind checking the flop to him, because he got in the last bet preflop.I think if you do want to move in, the best place to make a stand is to check/push on the flop. Give him the tough decision, and take away postflop decisions on later streets. Link to post Share on other sites
NicksDad1970 0 Posted May 30, 2007 Author Share Posted May 30, 2007 I agree with Des Moines, it's very read dependent.I don't mind checking the flop to him, because he got in the last bet preflop.I think if you do want to move in, the best place to make a stand is to check/push on the flop. Give him the tough decision, and take away postflop decisions on later streets.My decision on the flop was not really if I should call the 100, because I knew if I called it I might as well push. Because then on the turn there would have been about 465 in the pot and unless it came and A, K, or a spade then what else could have hurt my hand.Needless to say it was much easier to fold when the BB called the flop. I'm pretty certain I would have folded anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 My default line in this situation is to check/call the flop, and fold if they get crazy on the turn.I don't like to raise the flop, unless you think the guy will felt 99/TT/JJ here. But I can't imagine many 1/2NL players are 4min betting with 99/TT/JJ. Normally they are scared to play jacks and just set mine with them.I take the min raise as squarly AA, maybe KK. I would fold flop if he looked pretty confident, and if he turns up with some crap, its like Webslinger said, you'll have their money soon enough anyway.Mark Link to post Share on other sites
Verdimme 0 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I actually see the minreraise a lot with AK. Players feel obligated to raise with it but don't want to put too much in. I'm not saying that's the case here...just that it's not very raise.Is this live?I see it alot online, the other way around. Their thinking might be 'I really don't want to lose my player here while I hold AA'. With AK they seem to think 'AK is a powerhouse according to Doyle, but hey I haven't hit an A on the flop since 1998 so I just make a big raise and hope I don't have to play poker'.That said, I like a fold here on the flop. Call by the BB looks strong with you left to act, plus the button probably has a high pair too. Especially this deep, we will find ourselves in alot of trouble on most turns when faced with a bet. We can't raise here, since that would be a bluff, and we are still vulnerable for overcards, in the case the button is c-betting with AK (higly unlikely in a rr pot with two players on a low flop).I must say I never play live though. My advice would be more geared for an online game. Link to post Share on other sites
NicksDad1970 0 Posted May 30, 2007 Author Share Posted May 30, 2007 The button had AA and the BB had 10-10 Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I actually see the minreraise a lot with AK. Players feel obligated to raise with it but don't want to put too much in. I'm not saying that's the case here...just that it's not very raise.I see that a lot live, too. Link to post Share on other sites
Webslinger516 0 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 The button had AA and the BB had 10-10NH, Sir. Saved your entire stack. Link to post Share on other sites
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