Why Do People Ask To See The Hand? Very Unethical

[CBass1724 1]

If a player not involved in the showdown requests to see it, the hand is still dead per Robert's Rules. It's an issue only if the staff don't know the rules or they're using some set of rules that doesn't cover that situation.I found players in AC to be unusually hostile about dumb crap.

It was a guy who wasn't even in the hand who brought the argument up about not knowing your own hand and mucking. He was claiming it is still live. I thought it was dead when it hit the muck, but let's say the dealer does flip it over and he did in fact win, but didn't get the pot. Would the guy who dragged the pot with the losing hand be berated for keeping the money? It just opens up a whole other can of worms if this situation ever occurs. I know some of you have seen something like this, but I have not.I agree a brazillion percent about the AC players being unusually hostile about dumb crap. Some of these guys need to lighten up. On a few occasions, I saw people at my table get so angry over someone making a smartass comment to get a laugh out of the table and took the comment to heart. I enjoy vegas so much better when it comes to playing poker. I think I have extreme prejudice against the NY/NJ asshats whom frequent the poker rooms in AC.

[Icenine92 0]

Here is one that I have not seen covered in the post. Last night a kid on the other end of the table had a habit of showing his cards to the players around him. Not saying hey look at my cards but picking them off the table and fanning them so players on either side of him could see. Well he did this about five times. On the fifth time the old man on my right was in a hand with him. The kid made a bet and the old man ended up folding. While the cards was still in the kids hand the old man asked one of the people sitting next to the kid what the kid had. That person said I need a ruling before I can answer. (which I think was good manners and all) The floor said that the show one show all applies. The kid then said that I was not showing the person they looked. Two things about this. I think that the old man was right at getting annoyed that he was showing hands to people around them espically when the one hand that he ended up seeing was a total bluff. The other is that you should not advertise your plays unless you want the whole table to see them.

[ObeyTheDog 0]

Here is one that I have not seen covered in the post. Last night a kid on the other end of the table had a habit of showing his cards to the players around him. Not saying hey look at my cards but picking them off the table and fanning them so players on either side of him could see. Well he did this about five times. On the fifth time the old man on my right was in a hand with him. The kid made a bet and the old man ended up folding. While the cards was still in the kids hand the old man asked one of the people sitting next to the kid what the kid had. That person said I need a ruling before I can answer. (which I think was good manners and all) The floor said that the show one show all applies. The kid then said that I was not showing the person they looked. Two things about this. I think that the old man was right at getting annoyed that he was showing hands to people around them espically when the one hand that he ended up seeing was a total bluff. The other is that you should not advertise your plays unless you want the whole table to see them.

This an easy fix. After the 2nd or 3rd "unintentional" exposing of his cards, you call a floor over (or let the dealer know to call a floor over) and give the player a verbal warning and inform him to protect his cards. The dealer may do this on his own if you ask, but I think it's better to let the floor know what's going on (especially if he repeats the offense) so the floor is prepared if it happens again. When/If it happens again, the floor will usually ask the player to leave, problem solved. If the player is so bad that you don't mind giving an edge to the players around him, then let him keep doing what he's doing.

[Men the Hellmuth 0]

It was a guy who wasn't even in the hand who brought the argument up about not knowing your own hand and mucking. He was claiming it is still live. I thought it was dead when it hit the muck, but let's say the dealer does flip it over and he did in fact win, but didn't get the pot. Would the guy who dragged the pot with the losing hand be berated for keeping the money? It just opens up a whole other can of worms if this situation ever occurs. I know some of you have seen something like this, but I have not.I agree a brazillion percent about the AC players being unusually hostile about dumb crap. Some of these guys need to lighten up. On a few occasions, I saw people at my table get so angry over someone making a smartass comment to get a laugh out of the table and took the comment to heart. I enjoy vegas so much better when it comes to playing poker. I think I have extreme prejudice against the NY/NJ asshats whom frequent the poker rooms in AC.

Hey, not all of us NY'ers are "asshats" at the poker table lol...... some of us are actually light hearted like the rest of the poker community. As for this discussion, i agree with the show one show all rule. but i dont agree with the i want to see your hand after winning the pot, like a lot of people said on here, its just plain rude, you won the pot, take it down, you'll be in more hands with me shortly to see what i play and what i show down. Be Patient lol. also, the dealer who told the player "this isnt the internet buddy" was right on point. Its not the dealers job to tell you how much money is in the pot, thats your job, he has enough to do without helping you out with pot odds.

[kkot 0]

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Does anybody actually feel that by asking to see a hand you are "rubbing it in"?

[Naismith 0]

As for exposing a hand that ends up being the winner, at the local cardroom, the ruling is the hand is dead if anyone asks to see it unless the person who wins the pot asks. If you win the pot and ask to see it and your opponent folded the winner, the hand plays.