TGoldman

He probably has a set. If stacks were deeper, this is an easy fold. Since you're pretty much calling his all-in bet, even against a set your equity is going to be close to the 33% required to make a break-even call. If he seems LAG, I'd go for it since it's possible he could be pushing two-pair or some kind of wrap straight/flush draw that you clearly have odds to make a +EV call.

Yes, therein lies the conundrum.

You do have a low but it's probably only good for 1/4 at best given the action, and your straight draw(s) are significantly devalued because of the two hearts on the flop. Remember, you're out of position. You currently have nothing for the high, and you don't want to commit serious money before seeing a turn or river card. When the others start raising you need to be able to make this tough laydown when it comes back around to you.

How are you able to gamble with "other people's money" when the chips are part of your stack? :?

This thread makes my head hurt.

The Bellagio was spreading 4-8 Limit Omaha/8 when I was there last week.

This statement contradicts itself. Implied odds refers to situations where you are justified playing longshot draws due to the potentially large bets to be won on later rounds. If PLO8 is a game that has a lot of implied odds, then you would want to play a lot of hands, seeing flops for cheap and then folding if you miss.

The second part of your advice is good. Your comment about having "invested a woppin 2 in the pot" is meaningless, and it's the 2nd time I've seen posters here use it to justify a course of action. The amount you have committed into the pot in past streets is a sunk cost, and should NEVER be considered when making present decisions.

I limp with this hand 100% of the time in all positions and will call a raise behind me nearly every time.People who say 10C AS KD KS is a hand that only plays for half the pot are wrong. If you play the hand the way it's supposed to be played, you will rarely win less than the whole pot simply because you'll be folding the majority of the time two or more low cards flop.It's true that the majority of the time, two or more low cards will flop and you'll probably have to fold (Unless the high card makes your set). Especially if the pre-flop raiser is aggressive and prone to making continuatio

Mmmmm, nutella.

From my eperience reading his website, reading his posts, and playing with him online Ribbo plays a gambling style, sort of a PLO/8 version of Doyle Brunson's philosophy for NLHE. He is willing to shove his entire stack anytime he's able to identify his equity as have a slight edge (or even sometimes if he knows he's a dog but his opponent is unlikely to call). This approach generates a lot of fold equity against more conservative players. Conservative players don't want to play for their stack when they're only a slight favorite, so he's able to pick up a lot of small pots against those pl

I think a better argument against playing "40 point hands" (excluding big pairs) in PLO8 is that it takes a pretty specific flop for your hand to playable post-flop. You could say that the hand has good implied odds, but I've found high-only flops tend to be action killers. When you do get tangled with, it's usually against a hand that matches up okay against yours, such as a similar draw or a set or flush draw. Most of the hands that you are crushing are simply going to fold to a pot bet on the flop.On the subject of pot-limit requiring some "imagination", I've started experimenting raisin

I don't like having to play a guessing game on the river. As was mentioned, villain could just as easily have put you on A2, and be trying to steal on the turn. Or he could have another A4 and is assuming that his wheel is good. Smooth calling the turn with the intention to re-evaluate on the river puts us in a tricky situation if faced with a pot-sized bet. Making a bad fold on the river would be devastating to our EV. On the other hand, raising and getting it all-in on the turn (Assuming villain obliges) will at worst be a minor mistake. Giving villain the best possible hand something

I don't think check-folding the flop is the answer. We give up too much if we check-fold this every time. It's only four-handed on the flop, and bottom set is ahead of a lot of hands here. Only a higher set or a combination of hands such as top two-pair + straight draw + flush draw have us in bad shape. That's not enough to justify a check-fold approach IMO. The EV we lose through making bad folds is just as bad as the EV lost through bad bets/call, it's just that the former often goes unnoticed.So I think the flop bet is good. Heads-up on the turn, it's hard see any other action than a

I hate these kinds of hands. You limp pre-flop with a modiocre starting hand. Someone raises behind you, but it's only 2 bbs more for you to call so you do. Seems reasonable, let's see a flop. You flop bottom set and bet the pot probably expecting to win the pot right there. Sounds good. Unfortunately, you get a caller and another low card hits on the turn. UTG checks it to you and your set is probably still good, but now you have to defend you hand against a low draw and other draws. So you bet the pot again to apply the heat a drawing hand. Makes sense. Then the river card complete

I'm not quite sure of your thought process on the flop? Although top and bottom pair is a decent high hand heads- up, your low got completely counterfeited. Since villain raised pre-flop under the gun, you should be warry that he caught a piece of this flop as well. I would give up and check-fold the flop. If you're going to check-raise the flop as you did, I would consider it a bluff, hoping that villain will fold a similarly conterfeited A2 combo. So you check-raise and then he re-raises you. Oops. It was indeed a bad time to attempt a bluff. It looks like villain is trying to bait y

Getting free-rolled in this situation should be your prime consideration. Steve Badger has a very similar example on his website: The only reason that situation does not apply perfectly to your hand is that the action was multiway providing an additional overlay for your high only hand. Otherwise, it's suicide. This is why you need to play the hand very defensively--check the turn and river and only call if you have proper odds (i.e., enough additional opponents) to continue.

You're not at least 50% to make the *nut* high. Assuming the top full-house is the nuts, then you'll improve to the nuts about 20% of the time from the turn to the river (Also, I believe the 3 non-spade deuces will give you the nuts, although it's likely those cards aren't live). Otherwise, the other 80% of the time you'll have to wonder whether or not three aces is the best high hand. If the board doesn't pair, only the 3 non-spade deuces will prevent a straight from enabling. With that many opponents, it's reasonable to assume that you're going to need to improve to win the high, if so y

On the flop onward, I would have played it the same way. You could check-raise all-in on the flop and it wouldn't be a mistake doing so because you likely have a small equity edge. You chose the more conservative approach by waiting for a safe turn card before deciding if you want to commit all of your chips. That's fine, although it puts you in a tricky spot where you'll likely have to fold if another low card comes on the turn, and you're facing a pot-sized bet. The [ Ts ] is a perfect card and you now should have a very high equity edge. Get all of your chips in on the turn and squeez

Goop, you do realize that hero flopped a set of aces and is now being offered 4.3:1 odds on the flop to draw to a full-house? It's only a draw to 1/2 the pot, but the odds look pretty good considering the implied odds if we can quarter some lows or find a sucker with a smaller full-house.To the OP, raising the flop is pretty bad. You're just asking to get free-rolled. But if the villains are willing to offer you cheap odds to draw to a full house by all means accept their offer. It's a much closer decision if you're facing a larger pot-sized bet on the flop. In that case you may have to f