Lavitz
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I'd say we're good a little over half the time here but seeing as we only have to be good 1/4 of the time this is a certain call.cwik introduced me to this hand as one where he felt like this was probably the standard line, but he was uncomfortable taking it. Initially, I questioned the river call also. It seems like we're beat frequently...but throwing the ranges into Stove, this is a very standard call on the river. There are a lot of AK combos in addition to the ones where we're beat. We're getting pot odds to call if we think we're good 27% of the time or more, so I came to the conclusion that this is a definite call. -
Push now. If you cold call and he has a hand like JJ/QQ then you give an opportunity for an overcard to show up and scare him away. Plus, if he's getting retarded with AK/Ax then it would suck if an ace spiked. I really can't see him getting away from any sort of real hand here and cold calling does the same thing as pushing, it flips your hand up. You can't cold call with anything other then a pair here anyways.I can't see him being on a bluff then CONTINUING once you cold call anyways so really it just gives him a free card to try and pull ahead.Hero bets $250, Villain c/r's to $500...lol min raise lol.Hero ??? -
Fold. Lol @ online comment. Folding is the most +EV play here regardless. If you have some awesome "read" the rest of us dont have then raise to 3X I guess but don't expect the general population to agree/understand because raising on this board with 88 is kinda stupid and spewish.
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I think a lot of people in this thread are giving villian way too much credit. Also, I still like checking this flop behind because you don't want to get c/r here. Villian c/r all-in a LOT here and then we have to fold the best hand sometimes. AK pulls this line on JQx or Q10x boards a lot (check/pushing).As played, river is a call. Slowplaying AA/KK on that board is stupid and his betting line is a bit strange. If you take your line (passive for pot control) then you have to be prepared to call this river.
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SILLYGOOSER is an aggro spewtard who plays 3/6 and 5/10, lol. eddy81 not so sure....Anybody know who the two waitlist guys are, eddy81 and SILLYGOOSER? -
You butchered this hand I think. Especially given that he seems kind of like a passive calling station from AA hand.Preflop: 3 bet more.Flop: After you bet and he min reraises I would probably put in a further min reraise. From your description he's probably not smart enough to realize what your raise signifies and will think "wow, only another $100 to me in a big pot" instead of "wow a 3 bet p-flop and a min reraise on flop probably means hes inflating the pot with a monster"Turn: Lead whether you put in a further reraise or not. A lot of river cards will kill your action or give him a straight and we can't afford to let him catch up.River: VALUETOWN WHEEE.Basically you want to get all-in by the river and the way you played it keeps the pot too small.
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Just fold turn. You not only have to bluff MP2 out but you also have to worry about BB. This is FPS. No need to even get involved. Also sucks cause at these limits not only will 8x proceed with the hand but a lot of two pairs and sets will proceed hoping to fill up and then you're forced with firing a third bluff on river which is almost always -EV.
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My eyes hurt from reading this.
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Gonna be hard for me to lay down TPTK against aggrodonk after I already invested almost half my stack. Especially since we may have just forced him to push with something like a flush draw or AQ.He didn't push. Look how deep stacked they are. If CO comes over the top, I'm dumping it. -
I'm probably c/f to a substantial pot bet or b/f. I just think b/f is kind of spewing to begin with because anytime a player who raises 2.4% of their hands limp raises then warning bells go off. I usually am playing JJ for set value after a limp/raise against this guy.If you have a read that his flop "min raises" are weak then I suppose you could lead out and reevaluate if he min raises. Does he play real hands by min raising them on flop too?
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Pushing isn't excessive. We're usually not WA of villian because he shows up with a lot of pair/gutshot combinations here. There are plenty of rivers which are scary and could prevent you from extracting value from hands like 2 pair, also. Just push.wouldn't pushing be a bit excessive right here?i think we'd fold out too many hands that we're WA of here... and none of the hands we're behind... (which are pretty few & far between)i think we're vs a weak ace or two pair more often than not, i dont see either of them playing the spade draw like that (i guess sb? but why such a pitiful semi-bluff on the turn if that was the case? spades shouldn't be cause for concern in this hand IMO...i think i make it like 70-75 to go, this will effectively put both of them to a decision for their stack... also, it gives you a beautiful price to call a shove should it occur... i know we're not folding to a push, but if that's the case why dont we make sure they actually push (or at least try to get them to haha) i think that after only investing like $31 out of $136 leaves UTG enough room to get away from most of (if not all of) the hands that pay us off if we make a smaller raise..also, we risk less of our stack in putting him to his decision & that's always a good thing... he'd be forced to call off around 50% of his remaining stack, and will have him about like 60% invested in this pot... he can't fold @ that point, and realizes that if he's going to continue w/ this hand, the money's gonna end up in the middle either now or on 5th street... i think SB is folding & we shouldn't worry as much about trying to price him/her in... besides, UTG has shown MUCH more interest in this hand... unless he was runnin the squeeze on SB w/ hero still to act behind him (doubtful) that's my personal opinion... =] -
Reads? If hes a solid player this is a fold.
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This is a squeeze play a lot. Push, AINEC. You crush his range.
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He's actually out of position against button....Hes in position, but I agree..I would probably not even open the pot in the first place, and I would defintely dump to the reraise -
Playing TAG at a full ring LAG low limit table is probably the easiest way to rack up the monies. No need to worry about blinds killing you. Just fold this preflop. Fold to 3 bet and fold on flop.That flop was bad for you actually. If he has AK he has a ton of equity against us and we don't want to have to call a push. You're turning your TP into a bluff basically because I can't see him calling JJ here. I rarely get frisky full ring. Only every once and awhile when the opportunity presents itself.
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QFT. I feel bad for all my friends who have to work like 40-60 hours a week.Lol @ working.Things are going so bad that I for me I just quit my job
Work is overrated.
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Yea, I called and he flipped 79s for the flopped flush. His river push makes no sense whatsoever because he's turning a hand with good showdown value into a bluff. I'm never calling without at least the 10 of spades. I just think when the 4th spade hit his head imploded because his expert slowplay turned into a bluff.I called because I was drunk and the next day I was reviewing this session sober and realized there was a good chance I would've folded if I wasn't intoxicated. Playing drunk= +EVThe only way villain calls our PF raise with anything other than an A involved in his hand, and the only way he stays in this deep is if he has a suited connector T -- 9sTs comes to mind. Maaaaaybeeee he has TT with a spade, but if so, he's looking at up at both the A and the K and you hit this pot hard already. This is definitely not air and I think we can save some $ here. -
Holy dead money city. Look at all those poor callers trapped. I can go either way with this. Thing that sucks is with all those callers and action, some people probably are holding some of your outs (ie aces).
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Lol. I got half of it back playing against him 3 handed. Guy is spew city. I asked him if he pushed as a bluff or for value and he said he thought I was "squeezing".LEARN HOW TO FADE BACKDOOR DRAWS. -
Minutes after I posted...Full Tilt Poker Game #2965883753: Table El Sur (6 max) - $2/$4 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 16:51:36 ET - 2007/07/16Seat 1: cudd517 ($394)Seat 3: uglystyles ($493.50)Seat 4: luckyInsMan ($414.10)Seat 5: EATSOMMATHAT ($507.90)Seat 6: theswan9999 ($473.50)cudd517 posts the small blind of $2uglystyles posts the big blind of $4The button is in seat #6*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to cudd517 [9s 9d]luckyInsMan calls $4EATSOMMATHAT foldstheswan9999 foldscudd517 raises to $16uglystyles has 15 seconds left to actuglystyles raises to $52luckyInsMan calls $48cudd517 has 15 seconds left to actcudd517 calls $36*** FLOP *** [Ac 9h 7c]cudd517 checksuglystyles has 15 seconds left to actuglystyles checksluckyInsMan bets $36cudd517 has 15 seconds left to actcudd517 raises to $144uglystyles has 15 seconds left to actuglystyles raises to $441.50, and is all inluckyInsMan foldscudd517 calls $198, and is all inuglystyles shows [8h Ah]cudd517 shows [9s 9d]Uncalled bet of $99.50 returned to uglystyles*** TURN *** [Ac 9h 7c] [5c]*** RIVER *** [Ac 9h 7c 5c] [6h]uglystyles shows a straight, Nine highcudd517 shows three of a kind, Ninesuglystyles wins the pot ($873) with a straight, Nine highcudd517 is sitting outtheswan9999: wow*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $876 | Rake $3Board: [Ac 9h 7c 5c 6h]Seat 1: cudd517 (small blind) showed [9s 9d] and lost with three of a kind, NinesSeat 3: uglystyles (big blind) showed [8h Ah] and won ($873) with a straight, Nine highSeat 4: luckyInsMan folded on the FlopSeat 5: EATSOMMATHAT didn't bet (folded)Seat 6: theswan9999 (button) didn't bet (folded)
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I get those kinds of days sometimes. It gets kind of comical when you know the river/turn is going to kill you after getting it all in as a favorite. Some people need to take breaks and others try playing through it. If you're playing tilty I suggest stopping and taking a break. In fact, I suggest taking a day or two off regardless because you might be tilting in ways you don't even realize (ie. playing scared, too cautious, etc...).Thanks for the kind words Lavitz... The day got even worse with me reloading, getting up to approx $35 and holding K K 
. Pot was raised to $1.25 preflop by a LAG in early position holding approx $32, I raise to $3.25, LAG reraises to $7, I subsequently push almost dreading the outcome (given current form), LAG calls and we are all in preflop.Board shows: Q 
4 2 8 Q LAG shows A Q 
I left the table immediately in disgust!!!!!!!!!! Overall down $128 today. -
This is a sick spot. I like folding here. Best case scenario for you is he has something like JQ or KQ. You could easily be down to 4 outs or 2 outs. If hes doing this with flush draw then well played. Barely ahead or way behind for us....Any reads?
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I don't think pushing here pushes SB off overpair at .10/.25. I don't think he had an overpair there but even if he does we still have a monster draw and I still push. Nh.
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Yea that's pretty much expected. You played it great against an aggro donk. Make a note to check river to him from now on.If you were gonna pitch this pre-time clock I suggest bet/folding then because anytime you check a river against this time of villian you are inviting them to bluff you. If you're not comfortable calling a pot bet or more then use a blocker bet. They're maniacs but they'll rarely push over a river bet with air.That's by far the best analysis of the hand. Very thorough... impressive. Results: I hit the time clock on this hand, wondering if he really had it. After 15 seconds, it all clicked and I made the call. I remembered the hand where he turned trips and just checked on the turn and river. I didn't think a player who would play like that would make a strong value bet on the river with trips or better. He flipped over... wait for it... 710o. Hilarious. It was close though. Pre-time clock on FTP, I might've pitched it.
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