[Need Help With This One]

yeah thats true and i understand that, however if i cant figure it out at these limits when i do move up to where serious money is actually involved then im kinda screwed since i dont know the style

You won't be playing the higher limits where LAG is profitable for a while so just play TAG. It is the most optimal strategy at these limits and if you want to ever make it to the higher limits the fastest way to do so is playing TAG at these lower limits so you can win more money.

[What To Do?]

Bet half pot, at these limits a lot of garbage will be coming along. If you slowplay and another club hits then there goes all your action.

[What Is Opponents Range Here?]

I'd probably repop that flop or seeing the semi safe turn card make a move there. If HU match has been heated he could easily be doing this with anything from a made hand to a draw to overs and there are plenty of scare river cards it seems. You almost defintley have best hand on flop and turn. The Q on the river could've easily been a J or K and he would play it identically I think and you would've lost a healthy pot you could've took down by playing turn more aggressively. Just out of curiousity, what rivers would you fold here? 6? 8? 3? A? 7? Flush card?

[With A Gambling Feeling.]

You have to fire this river but I certainly dont like it. At these limits just play preimum hands and get paid off. Ditch 63s pre-flop.

[Tpgk Til Scary Turn Card]

Check/fold.If I fire this flop I'm betting harder then you did though. Just FYI, this isn't the flop you're looking for with 10Js out of position in a raised multiway pot. Getting called means bad news. We have poor position, there are several draws, we have a mediocre/weak kicker and an overpair somewhere is a very distinct possibility. If we get called we have no clue what were up against.Don't even think of calling any sort of bet with that turn.

[Ok, I Think I'm Back]

bet the flopit's unclear how many outs you have. He could have bigger spades or a made straight or a set of jacks or KQ...You're contriving a scenario to justify your move. Stop it.

Hand 2:. I think you're giving WAY to much credit to a live player raising and continuation betting, especially if he raises habitually with nothing/weak hands. WITH OP's read this is fine, we have so many outs and we can get some better hands to potentially lay down. If he calls off his stack with weak hands then maybe a different story.Hand 1: Bet flop. C/r=immense strength, people will fold their TP garbage kickers and such. Potting flop=called by TP, people with second pair and gutshot to the straight, etc...Someone had to have hit this flop and youll probably get at least one call.

[Fold A Set?]

Waiting for turn or river on rainbow flop like this with a set is bad practice, especially if it was 3 bet preflop. More money in pre-flop=less play making ability postflop, youre not getting away from this, ever. Not folding this for 100BB, or 200BB for that matter. Ahead so much more then not, AINEC.

[Standard Right]

Oh yeah, true.Figure to 180, then he's only got 70 back.I didn't realize he was short, I just saw Hero's shove.

Exactly, if we were both full stacked I would hate pushing here.

[Standard Right]

Given villians stack, yea standard for sure.

[How's This Line?]

I'd push turn.As played, yea have to call here.

[2 4 Nl, 6 Max, Huge Decision On The Turn]

Alright, I was pretty drunk last night and probably went overboard in my posting. Jordan, you are right for many reasons.Acid Night, on your last post, yes i would have folded if he had bet half his stack on the turn. Also, i feel if he has 10 10 to KK, he tries to get to show down, because he could have the best hand here.Some people are saying he would do this play with a huge hand because he knows i can call down light. Question is, How does he know that?? by reading the FCP No Limit section??? Point is, he would not know that.I think bigger issue here is how read dependent NL Hold Em is, and maybe my train of thought is just different then a lot of you. I guess I will try not to post such controversial hands in the future. and maybe some ones where i make folds haha.

Data mining? Playing with you previously? Plenty of ways. I have hundreds of hands against people I probably only played with once or twice and likewise people have the same for me. Someone who I played with once revealed they had 5,000 hands logged with me. Now I doubt he went looking through your hands (if he had any) but I'll reiterate that when you're beat you are drawing to two outs but when you are ahead he is drawing to at least 6. Also, you, like your oppponent, are risking 3X the pot to win the pot. 300+ dollars to win 100+ dollars with a medium pair. Not good poker IMO, unless you have a very strong read on opponent.As for bet sizing not "making sense", I really think this philosophy shouldn't lead you to stack off in this situation. Let him have the pot. You have a feeling he pushes and steals light? Well then I'm sure you can find a better instance then this. Really, you have no solid read other then he mixes it up a bit and you feel he "wants to make a stand" which doesn't seem very legitimate.

[Obvious River Bet... Or Is It?]

I understand the line up to the river but I am curious what value you see in check raising the river as opposed to just check calling. What hands will actually call the check raise?? Do we not care to show it down? Just curious what hands you think call the check raise on the river.That being said a check would probably induce the most money considering it looks like you whiffed a big draw and any weaker draw/pair will bet it so much more often.

Any ace will bet when checked to and call a modest reraise probably. We can even go for the ole min check/reraise if we feel a real one will scare a weaker ace away.

[Kk Shorthanded, Flopping Top Set]

Lol @ responsesI thought that I had to shove here too, but I talked to some guys bout the hand and a few of them thought flat calling or even folding wasn't terrible. If the villain has a hand like AcXc, waiting to shove on a non club/J turn increases my equity. I didn't agree with it coz if a club does come, am I supposed to fold? As I said, I thought I was supposed to fold but I had gotten some doubts in my mind..Anyway, I shoved and he folded.

I don't like calling and then folding to a club turn at all. You'd still be folding better hand more often then not against this type of villian.

[2 4 Nl, 6 Max, Huge Decision On The Turn]

I have been raising preflop probably at least twice a round, and have not yet shown a hand down, so i probably have an extremely loose image. Also, the BB/villian in this hand is pretty active as well, and mentally, i feel that he is looking to take a stand against me. also, for those of you who havnt played short handed NL cash games, 3 betting preflop does NOT equal a big pair. when i used to play smaller stakes at 10 cent 25 cent, or 25 cent 50 cent, reraising preflop was very rare, and if it happened, meant that the person had a big pair. here, when the guy raises me preflop, the range is pretty much just as wide as an opening raise.the question is, on the turn, when he overbets the pot, what is his range here??Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)BB ($730.10)UTG ($284.50)MP ($400)CO ($329)Hero ($446.70)SB ($288.90)Preflop: Hero is Button with 9, 9. 3 folds, Hero raises to $14, 1 fold, BB raises to $58, Hero calls $40.Flop: ($114) 3, 6, A(2 players)BB bets $76, Hero calls $76.Turn: ($266) 5(2 players)BB bets $336, Hero calls $316.70 (All-In).River: ($918.70) 2(2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: $918.70

Are you really stacking off with 99 against villian who 3 bet p-flop and you have no solid read other then you believe he wants to "take a stand"? This play isn't even questionable, it seems outright bad. Whatever "range" you put him on, your equity is HORRIBLE. He either has you drawing to two outs or he has plenty of live outs. Also, putting him on a draw is absurd. He either is on a complete bluff and maybe just happened to pick up a draw (unlikely) or has an ace with a good kicker at worse.The "Huge Decision" isn't on the turn, it's on the flop. If you call you're committing 1/4th of your stack on a ridiculously vulnerable PP that is either dominated or can become dominated by any paint card or a 10. Any turn besides a 9 is basically a bad turn, even if it's neutral. I defintley dont like peeling the flop and I hate calling this push unless I've seen villian push on a whim before.The good news is none of these players will be bluffing you anytime soon.

[400nl Headsup]

The turn card doesn't change anything except that we could be drawing dead. The flop was what was horrible.

The fact that some of our outs can now fill up opponent or the fact we could be already drawing dead is pretty bad. At least we had a clean shot at the nuts on the flop without a paired board.Yes, flop was horrible for obvious reasons.

[I Feel There Was A Better Way To Play This.]

I pushed hoping I could kind of represent a "I'm sick of you pushing me around" bet and hoped to get a weak call out of a 2 pair or TP. He had been bullying me for the short period of time he was at my table before this.In retrospect I probably should've checked and let him bluff or at least arouse some suspicion to maybe gain a check/call on the river from him.

[400nl Headsup]

I'd focus a little on pot control. You have a monster HU hand and your pre-flop 3 bet is so large that you seem like you don't want him to call. I wouldn't c-bet this flop. If villian is passive chances are he's going to give you a free card and if he bets I think we can fold this for a better spot because a passive villian just raised and called our overly large 3-bet and then bet after we checked a highly coordinated flop that was likely to have hit us. That usually mens he is going with his hand. If he has a hand we're ahead of like a PP I can't see hm firing that kind of board after we 3 bet. Same goes with A10 in which I think he'd try to take a free card for his shot at the nuts.As played, turn is atrocious card for us. Check/fold. Some of our outs could fill him up and/or are blocked by him if our outs are even good in the first place. He's not laying it down either.

[Important Heads Up Question]

I think it's better to just change your avatars emotion to "happy" or "confused" on FTP. Everytime I stack a trash talker I usually change my poodle's emotion to happy and I can just picture them sitting behind their computer screen steaming that a poodle just owned them. It's even better if its HU. Here is a good example. Notice our stack sizes when I first bought in.FullTiltPoker Game #2152754181: Table Hulk (heads up) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:15:21 ET - 2007/04/06Seat 1: sirdonkalot ($332.20)Seat 2: cudd517 ($99)cudd517 posts the small blind of $0.50sirdonkalot posts the big blind of $1The button is in seat #2*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to cudd517 [6h 2s]cudd517 foldsUncalled bet of $0.50 returned to sirdonkalotsirdonkalot muckssirdonkalot wins the pot ($1)sirdonkalot: u realize that im going to stack u off at least 2x right?*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $1 | Rake $0Seat 1: sirdonkalot (big blind) collected ($1), muckedSeat 2: cudd517 (small blind) folded before the FlopSome further trash talking at various points during our match (I did not respond):sirdonkalot: bro STOP FCUKING RELOADING TO 100 u have NO CHANCE all ur doing is going to loose more that waysirdonkalot: stop raising \ur button u SUCKsirdonkalot: im level 10 of poker thinking ur on 2sirdonkalot: pwnedsirdonkalot: ur the biggest fcuking calling station ive ever seen if i can get a hand ur done (after I called his 3 barrel bluff down with 2nd pair)Then the conclusion of our session:FullTiltPoker Game #2152937387: Table Hulk (heads up) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:42:06 ET - 2007/04/06Seat 1: sirdonkalot ($184.05)Seat 2: cudd517 ($248.70)cudd517 posts the small blind of $0.50sirdonkalot posts the big blind of $1The button is in seat #2*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to cudd517 [2c 2h]cudd517 raises to $3sirdonkalot raises to $13cudd517 calls $10*** FLOP *** [Ts 9d 2d]sirdonkalot bets $16cudd517 calls $16*** TURN *** [Ts 9d 2d] [4d]sirdonkalot checkscudd517 bets $41sirdonkalot calls $41*** RIVER *** [Ts 9d 2d 4d] [3h]sirdonkalot bets $114.05, and is all incudd517 calls $114.05*** SHOW DOWN ***sirdonkalot shows [4c 3d] (two pair, Fours and Threes)cudd517 shows [2c 2h] (three of a kind, Twos)cudd517 wins the pot ($367.60) with three of a kind, Twossirdonkalot is sitting out*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $368.10 | Rake $0.50Board: [Ts 9d 2d 4d 3h]Seat 1: sirdonkalot (big blind) showed [4c 3d] and lost with two pair, Fours and ThreesSeat 2: cudd517 (small blind) showed [2c 2h] and won ($367.60) with three of a kind, Twoscudd517 is feeling happy.

[What Part Of The Time Do People Call This On The River?]

I think ths is pretty standard HU against a LAG. 2 probably isnt in his range and while a 4 MIGHT be I'm not too worried. Obviously we're worried about a 9 but more often then not he just missed and is bluffing down.I like making a blocking bet on this river also. He probaably calls it with A high or a weaker PP and it saves you money if he has a 9 because it is unlikely he'd reraise it.

[Wheeeeee!]

I had a day like this about a month ago I believe. The nut flush getting rivered by straight flush and the one out cooler for quads on turn after we both flopped sets giving me second nuts is HILARIOUSSSS. So funny that my "R" key is missing from slamming my keyboard repeatedly. Keep in mind these are all from one day. So disgusting. Soooo disgusting. KHSLKAHSlkasjlkasjal. <3 Variance (I can still type "R" obviously, the key is just broke but underneath it is fine) There are a few more boring ones in which I wasn't such heavy favorites...(ie flush spikes river, OESD hits on river, etc....). Just had to let that out. I actually played it out and ended up in the positive for about 100 bucks or so. Not sure how.FullTiltPoker Game #2227772485: Table Edward (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 1:47:21 ET - 2007/04/17Seat 1: partylights ($90.85)Seat 2: cudd517 ($230.90)Seat 3: DonKeebalz ($117.45)Seat 4: elmo0244 ($14.65)Seat 5: smdd ($38.15)Seat 6: oddtime ($119.20)elmo0244 posts the small blind of $0.50smdd posts the big blind of $1The button is in seat #3*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to cudd517 [Qh Ah]oddtime foldspartylights raises to $3cudd517 calls $3DonKeebalz foldselmo0244 foldssmdd calls $2*** FLOP *** [5h 2d 7h]smdd checkspartylights bets $8cudd517 calls $8smdd calls $8*** TURN *** [5h 2d 7h] [8h]smdd checkspartylights checkscudd517 bets $13smdd calls $13partylights folds*** RIVER *** [5h 2d 7h 8h] [6h]smdd bets $14.15, and is all incudd517 calls $14.15*** SHOW DOWN ***smdd shows [8c 9h] (a straight flush, Nine high)cudd517 shows [Qh Ah] (a flush, Ace high)smdd wins the pot ($84.80) with a straight flush, Nine high*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $87.80 | Rake $3Board: [5h 2d 7h 8h 6h]Seat 1: partylights folded on the TurnSeat 2: cudd517 showed [Qh Ah] and lost with a flush, Ace highSeat 3: DonKeebalz (button) didn't bet (folded)Seat 4: elmo0244 (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 5: smdd (big blind) showed [8c 9h] and won ($84.80) with a straight flush, Nine highSeat 6: oddtime didn't bet (folded)FullTiltPoker Game #2227726234: Table Vince (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 1:33:41 ET - 2007/04/17Seat 1: Halbert16 ($140.70)Seat 2: UltimateUFC ($39.35)Seat 3: hutch20 ($53.60)Seat 4: Sleekest ($99.50)Seat 5: cudd517 ($115)Seat 6: kfan01 ($98.50)Halbert16 posts the small blind of $0.50UltimateUFC posts the big blind of $1The button is in seat #6*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to cudd517 [Ks Kh]hutch20 calls $1Sleekest foldscudd517 raises to $4.50kfan01 foldsHalbert16 foldsUltimateUFC foldshutch20 calls $3.50*** FLOP *** [8s Th 9s]hutch20 checkscudd517 bets $10.50hutch20 raises to $42cudd517 calls $31.50*** TURN *** [8s Th 9s] [9c]hutch20 bets $7.10, and is all incudd517 calls $7.10hutch20 shows [Kc Ts]cudd517 shows [Ks Kh]*** RIVER *** [8s Th 9s 9c] [Tc]hutch20 shows a full house, Tens full of Ninescudd517 shows two pair, Kings and Tenshutch20 wins the pot ($105.70) with a full house, Tens full of Nines*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $108.70 | Rake $3Board: [8s Th 9s 9c Tc]Seat 1: Halbert16 (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 2: UltimateUFC (big blind) folded before the FlopSeat 3: hutch20 showed [Kc Ts] and won ($105.70) with a full house, Tens full of NinesSeat 4: Sleekest didn't bet (folded)Seat 5: cudd517 showed [Ks Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and TensSeat 6: kfan01 (button) didn't bet (folded)FullTiltPoker Game #2227862398: Table Vince (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 2:15:44 ET - 2007/04/17Seat 1: Halbert16 ($108.20)Seat 2: live1234 ($40)Seat 3: nflpatsgirl ($132.50)Seat 4: Sleekest ($155.30)Seat 5: cudd517 ($142.15)Seat 6: kfan01 ($135.95)cudd517 posts the small blind of $0.50kfan01 posts the big blind of $15 seconds left to actlive1234 is sitting outTime has expiredThe button is in seat #4*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to cudd517 [Ah Ad]Halbert16 foldsnflpatsgirl foldsSleekest raises to $3.50cudd517 raises to $11.50kfan01 foldsSleekest calls $8*** FLOP *** [Qd As 6s]cudd517 bets $15Sleekest calls $15*** TURN *** [Qd As 6s] [Qs]cudd517 checkslive1234 has returnedSleekest checks*** RIVER *** [Qd As 6s Qs] [Ks]cudd517 bets $54Sleekest raises to $108cudd517 raises to $115.65, and is all inSleekest calls $7.65*** SHOW DOWN ***cudd517 shows [Ah Ad] (a full house, Aces full of Queens)Sleekest shows [Qc Qh] (four of a kind, Queens)Sleekest wins the pot ($282.30) with four of a kind, Queenscudd517 is sitting out*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $285.30 | Rake $3Board: [Qd As 6s Qs Ks]Seat 1: Halbert16 didn't bet (folded)Seat 2: live1234 is sitting outSeat 3: nflpatsgirl didn't bet (folded)Seat 4: Sleekest (button) showed [Qc Qh] and won ($282.30) with four of a kind, QueensSeat 5: cudd517 (small blind) showed [Ah Ad] and lost with a full house, Aces full of QueensSeat 6: kfan01 (big blind) folded before the FlopFullTiltPoker Game #2227592673: Table Edward (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 0:56:24 ET - 2007/04/17Seat 1: eyes_shut ($124.80)Seat 2: cudd517 ($121.40)Seat 3: DonKeebalz ($188.50)Seat 4: elmo0244 ($89.45)Seat 5: Bubblebass ($0), is sitting outSeat 6: deedotx ($34)eyes_shut posts the small blind of $0.50cudd517 posts the big blind of $1The button is in seat #6*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to cudd517 [As Ks]DonKeebalz calls $1elmo0244 calls $1deedotx raises to $2eyes_shut foldsBubblebass adds $50Bubblebass has returnedcudd517 has 15 seconds left to actcudd517 raises to $8DonKeebalz calls $7elmo0244 foldsdeedotx raises to $33.50cudd517 raises to $61DonKeebalz foldsdeedotx calls $0.50, and is all incudd517 shows [As Ks]deedotx shows [Kh Jh]DonKeebalz: 22Uncalled bet of $27 returned to cudd517*** FLOP *** [7s 5d 7h]*** TURN *** [7s 5d 7h] [6d]*** RIVER *** [7s 5d 7h 6d] [Jc]cudd517 shows a pair of Sevensdeedotx shows two pair, Jacks and Sevensdeedotx wins the pot ($74.50) with two pair, Jacks and Sevens*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $77.50 | Rake $3Board: [7s 5d 7h 6d Jc]Seat 1: eyes_shut (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 2: cudd517 (big blind) showed [As Ks] and lost with a pair of SevensSeat 3: DonKeebalz folded before the FlopSeat 4: elmo0244 folded before the FlopSeat 5: Bubblebass is sitting outSeat 6: deedotx (button) showed [Kh Jh] and won ($74.50) with two pair, Jacks and Sevens

[I Feel There Was A Better Way To Play This.]

Villian is huge aggro donk. 64/51/4.18 He is repopping almost all my raises and potting it on any flop. I obviously hit my gutshot, should I have checked turn and gave him a chance to bluff scare card on river? Anyone play it differently?Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$12 playersConverterPre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with 5 A Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $9, Hero calls.Flop: 3 6 7 ($18, 2 players)BB bets $18, Hero raises to $72, BB calls.Turn: 4 ($162, 2 players)BB checks, Hero is all-in $120.15, BB folds.Uncalled bets: $120.15 returned to Hero. Results:Final pot: $162

[Guy Kills Himself At Blackjack Table]

the funniest part (maybe not funny per say) about this is that he was able to bring his gun into the casino, pull it out, and execute himself. and all the casino manager has to say is "we have signs saying no guns..."

They really do have a sign saying among other things, "No firearms permitted". It's a list of rules in which among other things there are typical rules such as no flash photography, etc...Kind of random/humorous to have a sign concerning the obvious.

[Anyone Wanna Comprehend This Move?]

Full Tilt Poker Game #2132590289: Daily Double - B (15640066), Table 15 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:54:15 ET - 2007/04/03Seat 1: Birdy1288 (3,875)Seat 2: GREGTOWN (2,365)Seat 3: cudd517 (1,510)Seat 4: Ultimate One (6,235)Seat 5: beleivedat (2,365)Seat 6: TommyR286 (3,475)Seat 7: SmokingAAces (4,540)Seat 8: Mookachu (5,780)Seat 9: theserf (3,170)Mookachu posts the small blind of 40theserf posts the big blind of 80The button is in seat #7*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to cudd517 [As Ad]Birdy1288 raises to 200GREGTOWN foldscudd517 raises to 560Ultimate One foldsbeleivedat foldsTommyR286 foldsSmokingAAces foldsMookachu foldstheserf foldsBirdy1288 raises to 1,500cudd517 raises to 1,510, and is all inBirdy1288 calls 10cudd517 shows [As Ad]Birdy1288 shows [6s 8s]*** FLOP *** [2c 4h Ah]*** TURN *** [2c 4h Ah] [5s]*** RIVER *** [2c 4h Ah 5s] [3c]cudd517 shows a straight, Five highBirdy1288 shows a straight, Six highBirdy1288 wins the pot (3,140) with a straight, Six highcudd517 stands up*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 3,140 | Rake 0Board: [2c 4h Ah 5s 3c]Seat 1: Birdy1288 showed [6s 8s] and won (3,140) with a straight, Six highSeat 2: GREGTOWN didn't bet (folded)Seat 3: cudd517 showed [As Ad] and lost with a straight, Five highSeat 4: Ultimate One didn't bet (folded)Seat 5: beleivedat didn't bet (folded)Seat 6: TommyR286 didn't bet (folded)Seat 7: SmokingAAces (button) didn't bet (folded)Seat 8: Mookachu (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 9: theserf (big blind) folded before the FlopHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH. I love it. I LOVE FTP!

[Kk On An Ugly Turn]

Fold. Quickly.

[Thoughts On A Bluff]

I agree you might get some opponents to fold an overpair like AA but I think the call to begin with is dumb. You shouldn't be playing pathetic hands with the thought process "I can take him off a hand". Also, OP said you might play a strong hand this exact way? May I ask why?? If anything youre giving a hand that he's missed with outs to suck out (AK,AQ,KQ) and if he has an overpair youre just giving him a chance to see more scare cards to get away from his hand (another, J,10, flush card, etc) or play cautious. A set should be popping turn or flop to make an overpair committed for river and charge him extra if he missed with overcards instead of giving him a free chance at a gutshot.This play MIGHT be OK if youre perceived as ultra tight and villian is tight as well and competent. Otherwise, if you've been making plays like this, you're just going to be seen as a LAG and villians will call you down.