Lavitz
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Villian is 15/4/3 over like 100 hands. The river card sickened me but I'm getting pretty good odds. Keep in mind he is a nit and he limped UTG.Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $2/$49 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $563.30UTG+1: $123MP1: $660.40MP2: $300Hero: $576.20CO: $108.50Button: $174.50SB: $482.20BB: $237.70Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with A
K UTG calls, 3 folds, Hero raises to $20, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.Flop: J A 
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($62, 3 players)BB checks, UTG bets $20, Hero raises to $60, BB folds, UTG calls.Turn: 4 ($182, 2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $128, UTG calls.River: Q ($438, 2 players)UTG bets $220, What are we even beating? A10? Ax? Would he even limp these, especially from UTG? This doesn't seem like a blocker bet from a weaker ace... -
With the FD out there if we call and have intention of check raising then he could check behind. I'm probably repopping this.We could also use a stop and go.
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Hand 1- Tough decision. Question really is how much is this guy on monkey tilt right now? If villian is not on tilt I am probably laying this down. If we call we can't really be happy with any card besides A
and we don't have position. We're behind to a flopped flush, a set, or a hand like A Q and we're ahead of a naked A or a hand like JQ. I really don't think he pulls this move with a hand like JQ. We're not betting much and we could be drawing practically dead. However, since he is possibly on tilt it defintley narrows the decision.Hand 2- Call and reevaluate flop. Sucks we don't have a read to find out if he is a light 3 better. -
I dont disagree with cold calling QQ-AA to raises in certain situations but his isn't one of them. That's because:1.) We don't have position on raiser.2.) His hand range is huge so we have no idea if certain kinds of flops are good or bad.3.) He has an advantage because his hand probably isn't very strong therefore he isn't attached to his hand so much. If he doesn't hit a favorable flop then he can get away rather cheaply. OP on other hand has a monster and is going to be sticking with his hand on most non ace flops come hell or high water.4.) We don't have position on raiser.I guess if villian was super LAGtardo and a "TP all the way" kinda guy then I might call here but usually a 3 bet is good in this situation.OP i disagree with everyone here on this topic, and like the way you played it. Just because you have a big hand preflop does not automatically mean you 3 bet preflop. while i understand the issues that people are saying, the fact that he has such a tight image and thinks the guy will lay down to a 3 preflop bet is a huge factor. that being said, 3 betting is not bad at all. its just that you chose a different route and ill commend you for trying to thinking outside the box.also, i think this hand shows why having a looser image is that much better. with a loose image, you 3 bet here and get called a lot more then with a tight image. i think it was brunson who said, you have to give action to get action. as you get used to 6 max, you will see more of what i mean. good luck in the transition. -
If, with your read, you can pin him on a direct hand then I'd say OK. However, turns out your read was off and you we're unsure if he had an overpair or overcards. You can find better spots with this player, there's really no need to raise Qxo. You happened to be dominated preflop. Just fold it preflop and wait for better spots.
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3 bet this preflop. You don't want to take KK to a flop against a raiser who has a wide range, OOP. Even if he folds to a 3 bet, it is better then you cold calling and seeing a flop against a huge hand range. You're unknowingly giving him large implied odds because you aren't going to be getting away from your KK very often (unless an A comes on the flop) for 50BB while he can probably easily let go of his hand.
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Personally, I would've spiked a 10 on the river but as played I might lean towards folding to his reraise on flop. He could have you crushed and if we're ahead it is barely.Since you called flop, turn card was as good as we could hope for though.
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Short stacks (especially at these limits) do really stupid things. I am never getting away from this. Never. He happened to have a hand this time but I see so many shorties pushin underpairs or overcards like its da nutzzzz.
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Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $2/$49 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $432.40UTG+1: $396MP1: $816.95MP2: $834.50MP3: $387Hero: $468.40Button: $629SB: $416.80BB: $426.95Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is CO with J
Q 5 folds, Hero raises to $14, Button calls, BB calls.Flop: 3 6 5 ($44, 4 players)BB checks, Hero bets $32, Button calls.Turn: 8 ($108, 3 players)Hero bets $80, Button calls.River: 7 ($268, 3 players)Hero checks, Button bets $116, Hero folds.Uncalled bets: $116 returned to Button.Results:Final pot: $268Both villians were running like 45+/7/2+. Second barrel no good ORLY?He showed AA and I only wish that 7 was a spade so I could've check-raised him so hard. -
Reading some replies I think a lot of people are giving raiser way too much credit for raising 6 max and firing an unusual continuation bet. Granted he did choose to raise OOP which should mean he has a stronger hand then usual, but he also chose to raise to 3BB after a 2 limps giving some awesome odds. I reraise this hand hard over his c-bet because I think we're ahead of a lot of his range and we can also get him to fold some better hands. If villian is very passive or a huge calling station I would float to see if he fires turn or to see if we can catch our draw because if so, these types of players will typically pay us off. If he checks turn we can probably take it away (or choose to see free river if we want, giving us an option of also throwing in a thin value bet as well with TPNK on the river with the hopes he will look us up with some PPs)A reraise works better in this situation if villian is competent because he won't be as willing to stack off with simply TP and we gain more fold equity.PS. I'm an aggro donk so I'm almost always raising this hand with position 6 max.PPS. Does CO typically limp then fold with position on a raiser to an extra 2BB raise? lol weaktightaments.
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I think unless your table is full of the most ridiculous, passive calling stations this play is always -EV. Look at the position we're in now as a prime example. We flopped a draw but were OOP and now board is paired and even if we hit we don't know if we're good. It's always a problem because half the time we're going to be limp/calling a raise OOP with a weak hand and the other half were gonna be wondering if our hand is good (if we flop an ace) or if we're getting correct odds on our draw and if were gonna get paid off if we hit. Getting paid off OOP after hitting a flush in an unraised pot is not easy unless we're up against incompetent calling stations.I think it depends on how the table is playing, this table seems like it may have a lot of limping going on preflop. If that's the case I don't see limping with this type of hand to be a problem, even in early position. At a more aggressive table I fold.Turn is gross, it looks like he's begging for a call. With that many people in the pot it's very possible the turn filled him up, I don't think a fold would be bad. A good player isn't going to pay you off much if you do hit the flush and it's good. But you'd have to pay him off most bets if you hit.
This shove is pretty bad. Most of the time someone bets like this on a turn into a very multiway pot then it means the nuts. A lot of people do this to build the pot while inviting you to draw to a hand that is truly drawing dead so he can perhaps take more money off you on the river. If you just folded this hand p-flop you wouldn't be faced with such a dillema. I agree that he played his hand horridly but I think you also played it sub optimally.I know I shouldn't post results but nobody has been even close to correct on what UTG had. The way he played it I didnt think it was possible. I was thinking it was possible he had 66 but I thought there was a better chance he had a weaker draw or maybe a weak J. I actually shoved here...and I realize now after your feedback that what I did was probably incorrect.Anyway...yeah I shoved, SB folded, UTG called and had KK. I did hit my flush on the river and took the pot. I was a bit of a donk, but I wasn't the biggest donk in the hand. -
QFT, lol.I'm calling this 24/7, 365 days a year. (366 if it's a leap year)I would never fold this, ESPECIALLY if I was having a bad day. When I'm on tilt, the 2nd nuts = the nuts. -
At these limits I think this is a snap call, yea. A lot of idiots might do this with a naked 6. Any reads?
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I think being OOP you have to fold this hand preflop, for sure.As played, fold turn, you're probably drawing close to dead now.
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I dunno if I can escape this. If you bet flop and he pushed I'm defintley calling because he takes same line with set, but when he checks flop and then pushes over your turn reraise then that means immense strength. I still find it hard to fold this though. The key I think is that it is obviously 3 people to turn and he is doing this over bet and reraise. Unless he's suicidal this certainly isn't a bluff. What else would he even pull this with?
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This is a standard fold against solid player. There is no hand he is betting for value that we beat (maybe AQ/QK but would he call turn with those?). That being said, we beat a bluff but what hand would he be calling with on flop and turn that didn't complete? You have to lay this down. This board hits so many hands he might be playing and his cold call on turn could indicate he already boated up. If villian floats or is tricky then I could see an argument for a call but as played fold.
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I think a turn push is just a massive overbet that might let him get away from whatever he's playing. I think turn play is decent. Maybe reraise to 4X his bet.As played, river is a call.I agree but I push the turn. Your hand is sooooooooo disguised he will never see what hit him. -
Gotta fold. I can't see him floating flop with nada and check/raising repping the flush, although if he did then that is a great play. Over the long run he'd prolly lose money simply because a lot of the times the flush he is repping, you will have, because your line looks like a flush draw as well.I dont think a set does this either.
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Villian is 70/5/.50 over only 35 hands so take it as you will.His high VPIP makes me think I am ahead but his low AF makes me think I'm not. I kinda hate my flop cold call after he puts in a further reraise because although at this point I am trying to get to river cheaply (which turns out to be impossible) I have no idea where he is at and what kind of turns I should fold to (Q probably, diamond too?). I'm not sure if he could be doing this with a naked flush draw or a hand like KQ, or if I'm drawing to 8 outs against JQ or maybe even 2 outs against 33. Turn push baffles me. I haven't seen him bet like this before although I have seen him make kinda loose calls. Seems like it could be a "Way behind/Barely ahead to his combo draws" situation, no?Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $3/$67 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $500.85UTG+1: $767.10Hero: $757.35CO: $156Button: $751.80SB: $592.75BB: $524Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is MP1 with A
A 2 folds, Hero raises to $21, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds.Flop: 3 J Q ($48, 2 players)SB bets $22, Hero raises to $66, SB raises to $132, Hero calls.Turn: 2 ($312, 2 players)SB bets $460, -
You're right, guy turned out to be a major luckbox.I like folding AA there. Mixes up your play.lol Lavitz, shitty luck. You know flop was coming Qxx though.How about this one from today?*** POCKET CARDS ***Dealt to ZACH6668 [Ad Ah] ZACH6668 - FoldsIWON2 - Raises $6 to $6SSYDD - FoldsMINSOO0627 - FoldsTOT23MIK - Calls $4TARCARDS - Folds
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I swear on my life I clicked "call" at the last second. I am pissed. Oh so pissed.Full Tilt Poker Game #2511815439: Table Desert Oak - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:28:01 ET - 2007/05/26Seat 1: optimistprime ($1,282.50), is sitting outSeat 2: Almadingo ($1,708.50)Seat 3: DamnRaise ($345)Seat 4: RPM007 ($990)Seat 5: ArkieBassMan ($1,633)Seat 6: your a sausage ($965.75)Seat 7: ssphilly ($2,274.55)Seat 8: iamdaisy ($2,330.25)Seat 9: cudd517 ($1,287)iamdaisy posts the small blind of $5cudd517 posts the big blind of $10The button is in seat #7*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to cudd517 [Kh Ks]Almadingo raises to $35DamnRaise foldsRPM007 calls $35ArkieBassMan foldsyour a sausage foldsssphilly raises to $135iamdaisy foldscudd517 has 15 seconds left to actcudd517 raises to $300Almadingo foldsRPM007 foldsssphilly: this could be expensivessphilly has 15 seconds left to actssphilly raises to $2,274.55, and is all incudd517 has 15 seconds left to actcudd517 is sitting outcudd517 has timed outcudd517 foldsUncalled bet of $1,974.55 returned to ssphillyssphilly shows [Qc Qs] (a pair of Queens)ssphilly wins the pot ($675)cudd517 has returned*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $675 | Rake $0Seat 1: optimistprime is sitting outSeat 2: Almadingo folded before the FlopSeat 3: DamnRaise didn't bet (folded)Seat 4: RPM007 folded before the FlopSeat 5: ArkieBassMan didn't bet (folded)Seat 6: your a sausage didn't bet (folded)Seat 7: ssphilly (button) collected ($675)Seat 8: iamdaisy (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 9: cudd517 (big blind) folded before the Flop
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He isn't checking down A9. If we call he's either gonna put us on a FD, a weaker 9 or a boat and there are much more weaker 9's then boats. Also, if he puts us on a boat hes not gonna check down because he knows WERE not gonna check down and we're going to put our money in at some point, and he isn't folding. Therefore better to just push in on turn to make it improper for us to call with a weaker 9 or draw.Anyways, back to our actions. This is a push here. Everyone knows the guy who open pushed is an idiot so MP2 has a wider range then normal. This includes a 7, PPs or even draws. Cold calling lets him draw and cold calling this flop and folding turn to all-in which is basically a pot bet is horrible.This is such a tough spot, I really can't say. I don't like calling and pushing a non diamond turn, because we're still getting called by hands that beat us, and we could just push the flop if we think MP2 has diamonds. I don't really like pushing the flop either, MP2's smooth call screams that he wants more callers IMO.I think I actually like Scott's suggestion best (I say actually because initially I didn't like it at all). Calling behind there looks so strong that he has to put us on a big hand, and he might even check down A9. -
I've been a fan of this guy's blog for years. He is a very talented writer and poker player.
Aq - Raising Preflop And Being Reraised
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