srblan
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Didn't get every mention of Chuck Norris out of there, since that is obviously who this was written about.
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Obvious, but they couldn't figure out how, which is why it worked for so long.Book wasn't nearly as good as his first one.And I didn't even think that system looked any good. Seriously...how obvious must it have been after a few hours that every time they increased their bets they were winning. -
Right, he said he didn't do it.Hitting 12 against a 2 or 3 is not a mistake in Blackjack. -
The thing that screams strength here is that MP1 check-calls the flop. I've played a ton of low-limit NL, and with the players that I play against, the line taken is almost exactly what I'd expect to see from the queen (obviously not a good line, but they are playing their hand, not worried about the draws out against them).The reason that I believe MP1 checked the turn was hoping that MP3 would bet again. I honestly believe that unless MP1 is a moron, he won't minraise the river after playing the hand that way unless he has a queen. MP3 is, well, a moron. Raising with the second nuts in this case seems reckless. My aces really haven't improved, and if I had the inkling that they were no good on the flop, the extra queen on the river shouldn't cause me to chuck that idea.Yeah, you're right, either could check turn with Q8 or Q9. I didn't even think about that. Keep me honest
. But my point still stands that we have the second nuts, and it still takes the case Q. If you're not willing to go broke here, you're not willing to go broke in many spots. -
The problem with this wrap is that a lot of the cards that complete it bring a low. I don't like a raise at all. Minimum bets aren't always out of weakness.
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I don't hate preflop either, but knowing the tendencies of players at this limit, it's fairly safe to assume they'd call a slightly bigger bet than just pot size. The fact of the matter is that on the flop, your checkraise doesn't really give you any information, since you got called in both places. I'm honestly confused as to what the guy without the queen has (assuming one of them has the queen).I don't hate preflop. Being in the blinds and raising, you have broadcast your hand that you don't have a Queen. Leading allows some one to steal from you cheeply while C/ring will take much more guts as the pot gets bigger. It also gives you 100% information as far as your opponents holdings at little bit more expensive price than a lead would be. I do think it has to be a larger raise.River... bad bet for reasons cited above.Edit: I really don't care that the 3rd queen came. it gives me more reason to call, but no reason more reason to bet.
They'd check with Q8 or Q9 on the turn. Also, a lot of players don't have the sense to protect a hand like trips at these limits. I really hate raising here for the simple reason that you're likely only getting called by a queen. The minraise at low-limits is almost always for value in a spot like this.Do not fold. You have 2nd nuts. Think about how they each played this hand. Would they have played it the way they did if they held a Q?MP1 would not have checked the turn with top set on a draw heavy board.MP3 definitely would not have checked the turn with top set.If you're struggling between your read and the fact that you have a huge hand, make the in-between play and just call for a showdown.It's possible that one or both villains poorly misplayed their hands, but you should to be willing to risk all of your chips in play to win in small stakes NL poker. What I'm saying is that you have to raise all your chips in this spot. You have 2nd nuts AND both villains' play suggests that they do not have the Q AND it is only half your stack to see a showdown. You really should raise all your chips here, and folding is out of the question. -
I agree, and I would only try a check-raise here against a pretty aggressive player. I don't feel like k-high flush would check behind. The $100 bet just seems really suspicious to me, and less than king high might consider folding.However, I'm really leery of his bet. w/o information otherwise, I usually interpret this type of "wake up" bet as significant strength. I think calling is the proper play here. -
The house can easily tell if he is counting by counting along with him and determining if his bets or strange plays have any correlation to the count, or if they are just odd plays. If he makes a play that gives him an advantage often enough, then they will give him a talking to, otherwise they are very happy to have his action.
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I really hate his play, knowing that another heart kills his action. If he raised you on the flop, he's probably getting all your money.
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I don't think I'd push, knowing that I probably only get called by better hands. I think the reason he bet what he did was that he thought he was up against the ace-high flush, though if it was me with that read, I'm check-raising probably.When he leads for 100 at the river i definitely push...if he has the one or two hands that beat me so be it....his range is too wide to not at least call...personally i push in this spot and look to get paid off against a weaker flush, two pair, or set...Anyone else think its weird the guy leads out for the huge bet of $100 with the absolute nuts? Id bet half the pot in his position, maybe less, and hope to get raised or called...there are alot of hands you will muck to his $100 bet that you would still call $50 with -
Such a weird hand, it's hard to figure out what he has. I'm hesitant to say AA, seems more likely to be a connector with a 6. Such a weird play though. I'd prefer just a call over an all-in, but I'm not sure if I can justify either very strongly.
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I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that one of the two has the queen. Without knowing more about the players, I'd probably try to get away from the hand. Also, I think I'd err on the side of overbetting preflop, hoping that someone puts you on a steal raise.I'd prefer you lead out on the flop, but it's not a huge mistake. However, your raise is too small to get anybody out.I'm not so sure about the bet on the river though, what is your goal? Are you value betting? Not likely. Are you trying to steal? You could have the best hand, I don't see a reason to try for a steal. Trying to get information? I think the flop gave you the information you were looking for. If you are determined to see a showdown (I'd be looking for one as cheaply as possible), I'd think check-call would be a better alternative.
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If you are willing to play other hands like this, I don't mind the play at all (set, for example). It will probably get you a lot of action if the other players are staying in the game for a while.Why is it that I can only find 12 outs? 9 spades and 3 8s, right?
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Me. If you are looking for volunteers, i'll take the job.but then whos going to judge the people who judge the people who judge? -
Fair enough, I guess I made the mistake of using knowledge of the deck composition at the wrong time.The reason its not a change to ev is because you're forgetting about the times where you miss your draw on the 1st run. I think you're thinking along the lines of "well if I have a flush draw I have 9 outs if I hit my suit on the 1st run then I only have 8 outs to hit on the 2nd run". This is true your win % will go down if you hit your suit on the 1st run but this is balanced by the times when you miss on the 1st run. Now you're a slightly higher % to win on the 2nd run as there are fewer cards in the deck and 9 of your suit left. But all of this has a zero effect on EV as none of this is known when you decide to run it twice and only becomes apparent after the fact.Actually, it has precisely zero effect. guess I didn't think it through as carefully as I thought.
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In fairness, most big limit players are degenerate gamblers. It comes with the territory. I'm sure they'll readily admit it.Ever occur to you that DN maybe doing this because he likes action? Im not insulting him or calling him a degenerate or anything like that, but come on, if you play 4k-8k youre definitely enticed by the action. Forget ego, forget improving his game, maybe he just likes the action in his spare time. -
Nah, DN brought it in for a raise with 10-something (three maybe?) suited.Im almost 150% sure it was. -
Not with basic strategy, at least.YOU CAN'T BEAT BLACKJACK!Fire good.Blackjack BAD!
I'm just a simple caveman.
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I play a wrap with a flush draw exactly the same way I play a set. If you play it differently, a good opponent will notice this. I'd pot the flop and get it all in if I got raised.hes got the nut flush draw and a nut wrap draw, I dont ever advocate betting the pot with draws. I like 1/2 pot bets. To get it all in on the turn is inevitable b/c of the size of the pot.I may advocate folding this preflop honestly. Its a pot raise to call pf. Not a bad hand I'd limp with it (maybe) depending on my position. -
I'd bet 3/4 of the pot. I don't mind the reraise at all, since the original raiser is all in.
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Except that if you have something like a set vs. a flush draw, if you get outdrawn on the first run, you will be a bigger favorite on the second run since the cards are not replaced and some of his outs will have disappeared. Not sure if that makes a huge ev difference, maybe I'm just splitting hairs.This changes NOTHING. If you ran it two, three, four, five, or even one time, the long term result wouldn't change at all. -
Fold to the raise on the flop. If an ace comes on board, and he'sl not afraid of it with a PF raiser behind him, he's likely looking at two in his hand.
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Twodimes has one, cardplayer has one. I downloaded one at poker calculator
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Thanks for correcting me, I thought about the fact that his chips were in there too, and figured they wouldn't count. I just don't see a problem with taking a flop and folding if I don't hit it, knowing that you probably have a read on your opponents hand.we're getting 6.2 : 1 implied at the time we call3.5 : 1 immdiate.to cash in on the 6.2 : 1 we have to risk 800 more, essentially puting 1100 of our 5400 more in than folding preflop.We aren't going to hit the flop hard enough often enough to be able to make that play correctly. We will call his push for "pot odds" but it will only be compounding our mistake. This is a Tourney, be careful with the chips.You don't count your own money in that..except the 300 initial BB.
Kathy Lieberts Angleshot On The Wpt
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Roberto should have been penalized according to the rules. Kathy was out of line, but she didn't do anything technically illegal IMO.