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Are Western Churches and Governments promoting hate?Anti-Semitism is a hate crime. Should anti-Gay be? http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/08/min...+Most+Recent%29 Anti-Semitism is now considered a hate crime.We recognized that to discriminate or denigrate Jews, a sub group of our society, without just cause, as just plain wrong.Yet some Western Religions, notably Christian, Catholic and Muslims, as well as some state governments have laws and dogma that promote the denigration and discrimination of Gays, without just cause.They use this dogma and force of law to deny Gays the rights that t

Yes yes. We should all try to profit from the murder of innocent men. That is a moral position we should all take.Not.God rejected the vicarious atonement of Jesus as it would be immoral to offer it or accept it.Why have you forsaken me is answered with this .Pro 21:3 To do justice and judgment [is] more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice. Psa 49:7 None [of them] can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him: Are you willing to look up these and comment on our salvation without the blood or Jesus? RegardsDL

God, making souls believe lies!Tsk tsk.Shame on you for even thinking such.Then again----And if a prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet.Ezekiel 14:9 For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.Thessalonians 2:11RegardsDL

On hell.Better to shovel coal in hell than to spend eternity watching friends, neighbors and our children in torture and flame forever.Only a sick mind would conceive of such a situation or wish it upon anyone. That is why God would not do such because then, heaven would be hell.If those in heaven did not go insane then they could not have once been human or good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE_TWhzG-p0...feature=relatedIs God good? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9FKn4rKXEY...feature=related Satan’s history.http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_sat2.htm http://www.religioustole

Belief in God hinges on the reality and morality of hell.At the end of the day, with a God who hides, the only good way to ascertain if he would be real or not is by his morality. This assumes that having a sense of morality is good and not having it is not and that a God would be good.The pivotal question for God’s existence is;---- would a good God create a place like hell?The definition of hell here is the one of eternal fire and torture with no chance of reprieve.IOW. The traditional hellTo help me determine if there was a real Bible God or not, I asked and answered a few simple question f

No.RegardsDL

I do not believe in Bible God but do hold a belief in a cosmic consciousness. I had an apotheosis but have no proof as is always the way of such claims but-------- It is my view that all literalists and fundamentals hurt all of us who are Religionists.They all hurt their parent religions and everyone else who has a belief. They make us all into laughing stocks and should rethink their position. There is a Godhead but not the God of talking animals, genocidal floods and retribution. Belief in fantasy is evil.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HKHaClUCw4...&playnext=1They also do much harm to t

I do not.I do recognize the immorality of scriptures though.Would you build what facilitates the genocide of the human race?RegardsDL

You are half right.Troll, as defined as someone who knows the real politique of religion and government, and one that can really hurts your head, I will accept with pride. RegardsDL

Noah would says No to God, or be a Traitor to Jesus, says do onto others rule? Can you think like an adult?One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself . One should not treat others in ways that one would not like to be treated Do unto others as a Golden rule is all that man would likely have to follow to end most if not all of human suffering at the hands of other humans.If God himself lived by this rule, none of the woes inflicted on us via Adam and Eve would be with us today. The moral and right thing for Noah to do was say no to God thus choosing to follow Jesus. Th

Transition for sure but which way?I know we talk a liberal talk but we are not walking the liberal walk as those who opposed the DADT repeal suggest that the law is only an election away from being reversed yet again.That and the number of states with stupid discriminatory laws id not shrinking very fast. The institutionalized hate is still with us from both governments and religion. RegardsDL

If that is all you see, then you are not thinking very deeply.Sex is only one of the benefits. Bonding, survival etc.RegardsDL

At 61 with 4 male hetero children, I am not about to change my stripes. My wife would not like it.I do find it a strange mind set that will automatically assume that only Gay males would fight for the rights of Gay males.Strange that many only stand behind what profits them regardless of the morals. Rather ugly.RegardsDL

Would all you bigoted ass holes please stand up so that I can aim better.Common now up with you all those whose mindset is to fixate on someone else's sexual body parts and style than your own.Don't be shy of us knowing you have your mind on someone else's junk.I have a job for you at airport security. Step up.RegardsDL

One should not grovel to fools for doing the right thing.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiIqyF6RnzURegardsDL

I find that humans who would hate a person just because they prefer their own sex as quite extraordinary.I also find it quite strange that we have institutionalized that hate in governments and religion while outwardly deploring hate. All while preaching to other nations. RegardsDL

You may be right but I do not think it has anything to do with protecting society.I think it is more our inherent dislike of anyone different for one and our ancient violent steak against any member of our species that shows weakness. That is quite common in the animal world whereas being Gay is seem as a benefit by most species.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RlTAyNI8WERegardsDL

I agree completely and unfortunately this hate is state and church sanctioned.Thanks you for the reply BTW.Good to see at least one good mind here to show the straights how to think.If your Gay, let me add, no wonder Gays are hated. Most are brighter than most if the crew here is an example.For evil to grow all good people need do is nothing.Notice all the nothing doers above. No answer required on this last.RegardsDL

Yes, with 1/3 against.That is quite ugly.RegardsDL

The Gays issue. Are we in the West just another Iran? In terms of hypocrisy that is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_3RUwAJ_MI...feature=relatedWe seem to condemn Iran’s denigration and discrimination of Gays and women while at the same time forgetting that we do not give full equality to our own women and Gays and are indeed fighting these notions.Are we just pots calling the kettle black in these issues while hypocritically doing the same as Iran and other countries who we are trying to preach to in terms of human rights?I think that we are. We do not walk our talk so can we actually expect

Perhaps.RegardsDL

Thanks for this.Any chance that chemistry, through the shaman, was the first science?They had astrology but science does not quite cover that practice. It would also have been more religious than civic.RegardsDL

Did religions create science to further their Gods? After a bit of research on how religions began and knowing that what were relatively small temples in the beginning, almost what we would call house churches today, I wondered how and why they became popular or won converts.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2h4KueeElohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMXHL2cRNzw...feature=relatedAdd these prophets and God’s to the Gnostic mystery schools and you get an idea of all the competition. Was it just between magicians and scientists with a bit of theology thrown in?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnvEHO

At this location---http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/v...was_sellin?pg=3A discussion is starting that discusses the infallibility of the pope as he reverses the stance of previous popes. This includes condom use, sex that is not done just for reproductive purposes and slavery.I am finding the two debaters to be interesting. Some here may want to watch or participate.RegardsDL

I think he is more interested in winning the population race against Islam. They are kicking his butt at the moment as Islam is growing faster than Catholics and Christianity.In fact, the E U is quite concerned as it looks like Islam will have majorities in many of the E U countries in 30 or 50 years.Even the usual Scandinavian countries are starting to make laws against too many Mosques.RegardsDL