[fcp at work crew]

CS eh, we got lots of those at school, oh wait, do you have thick glasses, matted hair, egregiously overweight and a pocket protector? Haha.

Nope ;)No GlassesAvs 2001 Stanley Cup Cap covering all my hair (wich grows entirely too fast.)No Pocket ProtectorI probably am overweight, but so is half the NBA according to some people :roll:I look more like a college slacker than a coder (most days.)

[the pros have to be licking their chops for the wsop]

I doubt they're that stoked. One of my favorite quotes from last year (I forget the exact quote,) was basically comparing all the online players to land-mines. I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule, like action Dan -- because I think his style gives him much better odds of surviving the first few days.

[the question of slowplaying?]

1) You must have a very strong hand. (obviously)2) The free card or cheap card you are allowing other payers to get must have good posibilites of making them a second-best hand.3) That same free card must have little chance of making someone a better hand han yours or even giving that person a draw to a better hand than yours on the next round with sufficient odds to justify a call.4) You  must be sure you will drive other players out by showing aggression, but you have a good chance of wining a big pot if you don't.5) The pot must not yet be very large.So, if you flop 8 9 J  with 8 8  You should not slowplay according to rule 3.Or if you flop K 8 3  with K K  you should only slowplay if the pot is small(rule 5).Or if you flop A 3 T  With A T  you should not slowplay accordingto rule 1, 2, 3, and 4...maybe 5, too.Basically, you just slowplay the nuts.

100% Agree -- I'll sometimes simplify it to a single question post-flop: Will anything other than a 2 outer beat my hand?Pre-flop is another monster all together, and I personally would recommend against it online. If you do decide to do it, you'll have to be extremely disciplined and avoid chasing when you get a bad flop.

[fcp at work crew]

Don't post often, but I'm at work 9ish to 5ish M-F staring at a computer screen. I'll surf during code builds, and server resets, etc...Sometimes surf while I'm thinking over an issue as well

[[tourney play] betting against a draw?]

There's no way you can get your opponent to fold top pair and flush draw.

No argument here ;)My main interest is really diving into Tourney strategy though. As I mentioned previously I generally have a very hard time backing down in situations like the one I posted above (where I feel I'm leading an opponent on a draw.) I don't know that I've made up my mind as to whether this is good or bad.Online, the 'new' poker crowd seem to be more willing to chase (I think you see this in live tournaments a lot more today as well.) I figured I would see if anyone here had any deep thoughts related to this.Going back to the hand above again, I was already in good position chip wise, and didn't really have a lot invested when my opponent pushed all-in -- that very well could have been a spot where it would have been 'smart' to lay down even though I felt I was ahead.

[poker stars user id's]

bivyNormally only play the penny limit Hold'em games, occasionaly playing tournaments or SnGs.

[tilt]

#8 according to the website: http://espn-tilt.com/

[[tourney play] betting against a draw?]

This is a pretty old hand, but figured it might be fun to get some thoughts on my play, and betting against a draw specifically.(10+1 at PS) Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200)Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: bivy (18125 in chips) Seat 2: potzer (2383 in chips) Seat 3: corndog04 (5025 in chips) Seat 4: jay843 (14505 in chips) Seat 5: Riverboat45 (6260 in chips) Seat 6: rspect (8395 in chips) Seat 7: LilPedro (27490 in chips) Seat 8: sixers03 (15040 in chips) Seat 9: MartinBosek (825 in chips) bivy: posts the ante 25potzer: posts the ante 25corndog04: posts the ante 25jay843: posts the ante 25Riverboat45: posts the ante 25rspect: posts the ante 25LilPedro: posts the ante 25sixers03: posts the ante 25MartinBosek: posts the ante 25corndog04: posts small blind 100jay843: posts big blind 200*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to bivy [Ah 8h]Riverboat45: folds rspect: folds LilPedro: folds sixers03: folds MartinBosek: folds bivy: calls 200potzer: folds corndog04: calls 100jay843: checks I could have played position here, but I'm not sure it would have changed the outcome of the hand. The only thing I could see happening is me raising up 5-10xBB, jay843 coming over the top and then me folding. I'm not sure jay843 would have done anything other than call though.*** FLOP *** [Ad 8s 4s]corndog04: checks jay843: checks bivy: bets 1000corndog04: folds jay843: calls 1000 I put jay843 on a flush draw at this point. I was pretty confident with top two pair, after he simply called. From previous play I wouldn't expect him to call with a gutshot draw.*** TURN *** [Ad 8s 4s] [6c]jay843: checks bivy: bets 2000jay843: raises 11280 to 13280 and is all-inbivy: calls 11280 I was feeling really good at this point, pretty confident I had the best hand. When he pushes all-in I call relatively quickly, and see he is in fact on a flush draw.*** RIVER *** [Ad 8s 4s 6c] [Js]*** SHOW DOWN ***jay843: shows [As Qs] (a flush, Ace high)bivy: shows [Ah 8h] (two pair, Aces and Eights)jay843 collected 29385 from pot My dreams crushed! The river brings the dagger to the heart for me when jay843 makes his A high flush, and collects all my moneys.So outside of what specifically I might have been able to change in this hand, does anyone have thoughts on general tourney play against an oponent on a draw? Specifically a flush draw? Gernerally always go for it? Back off opponents that have you covered? Back off in the earlier rounds of the tourney?I normally find myself attacking whenever I think I have the best hand. This has caused me a few problems in tournaments, and as much fun as chalking everything up to bad beats is, I'm sure I can improve Besides who cares if your the favorite if its only by a few percentage points.

[last nites wpt legends of poker]

Favorite quote of the night was from Doyle:I call by the way.Really enjoyed last night, and looking forward to next week. Good season for the WPT so far.