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Her life signs were lowered to a point where a person measuring them would get no reading, but internally, her mind was still functioning, albeit in a very altered state. She was still receiving sensory input. I have seen my body below me while I floated above myself. I actually saw it, and from within my own mind.I doubt you'll get a decent description of the mechanics of this - I've not read a satisfactory theory on how consciousness works. It may sound unbelievable but I know that it's possible because I know exactly what it feels like.

You are still able to receive sensory experience during NDE. How? I don't know what the mechanism is, but I can tell you that sensory input does get through to you in an NDE state. In clinical death, the person is not breathing and has no heartbeat. Still, I know that some sensory information is getting through to their consciousness despite the fact that other body systems are shut downHow do I know it wasn't life after death? The state of NDE is entirely closed off within your consciousness. Because of how mine happened (not going through physiological trauma) I was able to experience the tr

Thank you for your responses.Ah I get Lamech now. In Genesis 4:23-4:24 says he has killed two people, a man for wounding him and a boy for striking him. So the moral is: if someone attacks you, you can kill them. I don't nessarily agree with that, but understand it now.when I asked "Why did God only exile Cain?", I meant: why not kill him instead? God kills other people for much less... like Lot's wife.Genesis 19:17 When they had brought them outside, one said, "Escape for your life! Do not look behind you, and do not stay anywhere in the valley; escape to the mountains, or you will be swept

I'm the one who HAS HAD THE EXPERIENCE THAT YOU HAVE ONLY READ ABOUT yet I'm the one blinded by ignorance? That has to be one of the most arrogant statements I've ever had anyone say to me. How you presume that reading a few articles makes you know more about something that I have direct experience of is an act of staggering self importance and delusion.I would happily answer any question you have about NDEs, but you have not asked me anything. Why not? Because you have already made up your mind. Offered the oppportunity to ask questions of a survivor, you choose not to take it.I have seen, t

Here is Genesis 4 - the story of Cain and Abel. Compare the verses with my paraphrasing above. I was careful not to omit anything or to interpret anything arbitrarily.Nothing happens in Genesis 5, its just a list of the descendents of AdamHere is Genesis 6 - the start of the story of Noah. God decides to kill everything in 6:5, he tells Noah this in 6:13, and in Genesis 7, after Noah has boarded the ark, the mass murder occurs in 7:21-7:22

My unshakeable proof comes from the direct experience of something that you have only read about. I have had an NDE. You have not. How dare you call me dumb when your opinion is inconsequential?I am not a skeptic. I have direct proof from my experience and my proof is absolute. You and Lommel have nothing compared to me. Who lacks information when yours is all third and forth hand? My information is first hand. You have nothing when it comes to the experience an NDE. Nothing.

Her conscious state during NDE was the same as mine. The experience she underwent was the same as mine. I know more about this than Lommel (afaik he has never had an NDE) and, unless you have had one, you do not know the truth.People experiencing NDEs are not experiencing the afterlife. I have unshakeable proof of this. There is no substitute for direct personal experience.

GOD: Mankind is wicked. I will kill everything that lives because I wish I had never made mankindGOD: (kills everything)GOD: I will not kill everything again because mankind is wickedGod's reasoning is insane. Where is the context that shows anything else? It's certainly not out of context with the rest of Genesis. I am studying this book very very carefully and coming to the conclusion that it is very very horrible. You are simply not reading the Bible! Read it!Why are you ignoring the content of these stories? They are immoral and disgusting.

Where is God's morality? He wishes he'd never made mankind, then kills everyone because of the evil in our heart. Then he promises not to kill everyone because there is evil in our heart. Isn't that, I don't know, psychotic? WHERE in the Bible does it show what God expected of mankind? Here's every verse in Genesis 4Genesis 4:1-4:3 Adam & Eve have two children, Cain & Abel. Abel is a shepherd, Cain is a farmerGenesis 4:4-4:5 Cain gives fruit and vegetables as an offering to God. Abel gives meat. God is pleased with Abel, and displeased with CainGenesis 4:6-4:7 God tells Cain if he does

I listed the every single verse at the start of the Bible! Every single one! How can that possibly be out of context?I know I could have used much better examples (the OT is that nasty) but I chose the start precisely so I could put it in its correct context.

I could tell you details that I perceived and heard during my NDE that could also later be verified. Her experience was the same as the one that I had. It wasn't life after death.

I've read Pam Reynolds account of her NDE. She experienced the same thing that I experienced, which isn't life after death.

That's the thing. I was very careful not to take examples out of context. I carefully read the start of the bible. Genesis 1:1-2:7 The CreationGenesis 2:8-2:15 The Garden of EdenGenesis 2:16-2:25 Adam and EveGenesis 3:1-3:24 The serpent, the apple and the exile of Adam and EveGenesis 4:1-4:15 Cain and AbelGenesis 4:16-5:32 A list of the descendents of Adam (Noah is one of the last listed)Here is the story of Noah. I'll go passage by passage so I don't miss anything.Genesis 6:1-6:4 Mankind spreads across the worldGenesis 6:5-6:7 God sees mankind is wicked and evil in his heart. God regrets ever

Because I know. I can tell you what my direct experiences were in an NDE and also how they came about. It wasn't life after death.

... doesn't that mean don't believe it? at all?

I think my opinion is more credible than the scientists studying the issue because of my direct personal experience of a NDE.I've floated above my body. I have seen the tunnel of light. It wasn't life after death. Sorry.

When I say I have had an NDE and experienced the selfsame things that those other people did, do you not believe me? It wasn't life after death.

Well, just using one story in Genesis as an example, there's the story of Noah."6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them."So God decides man is wicked because of man's evil imagination. God t

HelloI am a non-Christian, and am a bit confused about the relationship between the two books of the Christian Bible. To me, the Old Testament appears to contain savage and sadistic cruelty, terrible injustice and some outright nonsenseAs a Christian, what do you feel about the morality of the acts and laws outlined in the Old Testament? Does acceptance of the Jesus of the New Testament tally with the stuff in the Old?Can the bad stuff in the Old Testament be disregarded or are you not allowed to choose selectively what you want from it?What does your relationship with the Old Testament inform

That is not knowledge it is just a belief. Do you have any evidence that would contradict the millions of NDEers?I can't speak for WrongWay, but I do have evidence as I have had an NDE-like experience. I saw my body from below as though I was floating out of my body, I saw the tunnel of light - actually, mine was a tunnel of light, sound, thought and touch, as I was experiencing synaesthasia at the time.One explanation is that I was truly close to death and was experiencing the ascendency to heaven.I think instead that what I experienced was more attributable to the LSD I'd taken. When people

Hello (dipping my toes in this forum)As I understand it (pop science knowledge only), quantum theory allows for spontaneous creation of matter something like this:It's theorized that the vacuum of space is constantly creating virtual particle pairs (particles and antiparticles) for infinitisimal durations in infinitisimal spaces. If you could look at an area of space smaller than the uncertainty limit, the vacuum can be seen to be a bubbling foam of these particle pairs. Having a +1 particle and a -1 particle still leaves you with a sum of nothing, so the conservation of forces and energy is m

ahahahahahahaha *chokes*The normal pattern of events (and well known everywhere else in the world) is that the USA imposes unrestricted exploitation by US companies on other countries while keeping the US market closed, restricted and subject to extreme protectionism- for an example, see the online gaming billThat you believe that:- you are doing a good thing by "giving (countries) free markets"- the US tolerates anyone trying to favour indiginous productioncontrary to the facts is something that the US media should be very proud of*sigh*

The bill as passed has nothing to do with gaming, gambling, morality or poker. It has everything to do with protectionism. If it were American companies being affected then there would be no bill.The USA has a long and unenviable history of imposing free markets by force upon other countries while locking out access to their own markets, especially when they're beaten in fair competition

There's quite a lot of misquotes and misattributations in this thread. I went back and watched WSOP 2006 Episode 19 and here are the direct quotes:Hand vs. Eric Lynch (13:20)Eric Lynch has Ad6s, calls 50,000 BBPaul Wasicka has 3s3c, calls 50,000Jamie Gold has ThTc raises to 550,000Gold says "and yes, I'll show"Lynch says "I re-raise. I'm all-in"Wasicka folds.Gold says "I'm with you. I call"(cards are turned over)Gold: "Yes! What are you doing? I told you I'd show you, you know I have a real hand. What are you doing?"Lynch: "I'm hoping I get lucky I guess"Gold: "Alright. I was trying to be nice

If Gold has a better flush draw, Wasicka is between 25%-45% to win the hand against just Gold. Someone smarter than me can do a pot odds vs tournament equity calculation but its in no way an easy call.