first hand, no question you get em all in there. if you fold there, you aren't playing poker right.second hand, you are clearly beat on the flop, but with that nut draw you are def priced in to call, whenever you have two other people going along with you in a flush draw situation you are essentially guaranteed the right pot odds... it might be reasonable to think that two of your outs are gone to another guy, but you also don't know if another A or 9 is an added out (which they may be).both these situations look like + EV call/shoves.