GamblinLeaf
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Would the hand play more easily if you 3-bet the flop? (I'm wondering, not stating.)If you 3-bet the flop and he caps and leads the turn, you can pretty easily fold.If you 3-bet the flop and he just calls, then a) he leads the turn and you can fold, or B) he checks the turn and you have a choice between betting and folding to a check raise or checking behind.Thoughts?
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I never really liked bet/fold, except in the worst "I can't win unless he folds" situations. But that's just me. Maybe you'll convince me otherwise. In this case, though, it just seems like a wasted bet if we're behind. And if there's ANY chance whatsoever that he'd bet a worse hand, like TT, c/c seems better.Also, why no cap PF? Is it because of your read on CO as solid?
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Yes, I would c/r the field on the flop (and cap) to try to get a bet or two from the button.I'd be tempted to lead the turn and call a raise but not 3-bet. I think this is close though.I agree with the others on turn.I would c/r the flop though. -
With UTG limping, I don't hate overlimping with deuces in this spot.I raise/jam the flop with two clubs on board.I jam the turn when I fill up.I (hope) I don't lose the max on the river and throw up a little when I do.
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My only question is on the river ... given your read that he's passive post-flop, the bet makes sense, but are you folding to a raise? Would you consider check/calling to induce a bet from a worse king, middle pair, or the naked Ac?
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Yikes, did you wake up on the wrong side of the Infinite Corridor today, Aseem?You will take offense to this post, and you should, but you should also keep an open mind and realize that you suck at poker... for now. This hand was absolutely butchered to a horrendous extent, and if this is representative of your normal play, you are almost definitely a losing or break-even player. If your results don't show it, your sample size probably isn't statistically significant.Do yourself a favor and search Amazon for "Small Stakes Hold 'em" by Ed Miller. Purchase it, read it, practice a ton more, rake in the cash monies $$$, enjoy.AseemP.S. This hand really sucks. Every street except the turn was misplayed badly, and possibly the flop if you had a read on UTG+2, but you don't mention one so I'll assume the flop was misplayed too. (I'm not going to bother arguing why each street was misplayed, because a] I wouldn't be able to explain it better than the book, and b] you wouldn't fully understand without having read the book.) -
Building on what Abba and Aseem said, I think personal preference is vastly underrated (in life, as well as in poker, but that's another topic).If you like SH better, play more SH. If you like FR better, play more FR. For that matter, if you like LHE more than NL, or vice versa, go with your preference. Of course, you have to try it to find out if you like it.I just don't think it's worth fixating on one style, simply in the hopes of squeaking out a slightly higher winrate, if that means you end up playing a game or a style that you can't stand, and end up burning out in the process.
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I have converted to the church of fast play. Hand plays totally different and, I believe, much easier that way.
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You can also PokerStove JJ and see that it has an outright equity edge vs. as many as 9 random hands. Kinda extreme, but it's there.In fact, against 4 opponents, as in this hand, you actually have an equity edge with pocket pairs down to 55.Not saying I'd always raise 55 from the SB, but these two extremes should make you more comfortable with raising a big hand like JJ.Fair enough, Zach argues the same so I'll take it fwiw.
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Without reads I'd consider a PF 3-bet. I think the hand plays much differently that way.As played, I also like the idea of calling the flop 3-bet and raising the turn.
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I cap AKs in position. The hand plays differently after that.As played, after BB bets the flop, there are 7.5 small bets in the pot. You're getting 7.5 - 1 which makes it a peel unless you have a VERY strong read on BB which tells you he would only 3-bet PF with a hand to which you're drawing slim.Turn and river look standard to me.Ok. Here's another hand that happened last night.I was UTG+1 with A
K I raise everyone else folds, the BB 3-bets, I call.Flop 2 4 
7 BB bets, I call.Turn: K BB bets, I raise, BB 3-bets, I call.River: 5 BB bets, I call.So if I'm understanding correctly.. There are are 3.25 BB's on the flop. So since I missed the flop should I fold to his bet?Should I raise the turn or be worried about his preflop aggression? Obviously after he 3-bet the turn, I was worried. So I would think the river call would be standard... but I have a feeling that I should've folded on the flop. -
IF (the if is key) all of your 6 overcard outs are "clean", you need 7 - 1 (6.7 - 1 for you math geeks) to peel correctly. Obviously you subtract outs as you feel they could end up hurting you, as the fourth flush card would in the original hand, and you add outs that can help you, like the gutshot cards.As Zach said, given that the pot was offering you 14.5 - 1 on the flop, it is correct to peel even if your 3 clean gutshot outs are your ONLY outs, unless somehow you knew with 100% certainty that someone had the made flush already.ok, so let's say that the flop was all black.... do I still call on the flop? With just my 2 overs and a 4 for a str8? Or was my backdoor diamond draw what made it wise to call? How many 'outs' do I typically need to call a flop bet when I basically 'miss' the flop? Thanks for all the responses. -
I think we have to jam the turn. Your flop raise will look like something other than a flush draw to many players, so you'll get plenty of action from a worse flush, the straight, or a set. More and more I feel that getting money in on the turn helps on the river when scare cards hit. If you raise the turn, does UTG just call or does he 3-bet? If UTG does 3-bet, does UTG2 come along or fold? If you cap, as I think you should, do either of those players lead the board-pairing river? Being more aggressive on the turn, and what villains do in response, makes any river decision easier, imo. As played, and without reads, I'm probably just overcalling the river if it goes bet/call. Might be missed value, but getting 3-bet there would suck. Not sure if I could find a fold to a river bet/raise, especially if we jammed the turn and the pot was huge, but it would probably be correct. Again, I think turn action would help clarify these decisions.Just me and my $.02
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JJ are a value raise for me here, pretty much 100% of the time. I could be convinced otherwise, but I don't think it's that close.A PF raise would also let you represent the ace with a flop bet and might give you a better idea of where you're at. If villain raises, you can more comfortably fold, or peel and check/fold the turn.As played, and without reads, I think a river bet/fold and check/call are close, while check/fold is too weak.Just my two cents.
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I think you played it fine. I would 3-bet PF against an open raiser, or if I was on the button, but in this spot I think it's pretty close. With 3 limpers and a cold-caller, we're actually about even money against the combination of the PF raiser and cold-caller's range. We do have equity against the limpers, but we're OOP for the whole hand which offsets that a lot, imo. So overall, pretty close.Flop is an easy peel with as many as 10 outs, many of which are dirty, but we're getting an immediate 14.5 - 1.Turn is close between a call and a raise, but I think I just call. I prefer more people in multi-way, but I think the raise is fine too.River is standard. I throw up in my mouth a little bit if he caps.Just my two cents.
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Wondering if anyone here has used/uses or has any experience with either myCitadel or MoneyBookers?
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You might've seen it already but just wanted to make sure ... cheers!
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I think I played against that guy today too.
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Ditto, at 2:30 pm edt.I can't get in with the download at all. -
I'd also like to know more about where we stand with this.In addition, if we did the 100% to $300 reload last week (that we had to email you to get credit for), are we still eligible for this one?I'd love to take advantage of this, but would like to know more aboutthe impending network change and how everything will be dealt with...Any info/reassurance you can give us Bob? -
Investing and poker are not that similar. Trading and poker, on the other hand, are very, very similar. Both are performance oriented endeavors, which makes them harder than a lot of things, where you're rewarded for your decision making. One of the attractions of poker is that you can, in theory, make more on a shorter bankroll than a trader. You won't consistently make $50k/year on a $10k trading account (trust me, I've tried), and even if you could, your risk-of-ruin would be very high. On the other hand, I suspect that "many" average to decent poker players could make $50k on a $10k bankroll, playing no higher than 5/10 LHE, with a near-zero risk-of-ruin, if they were willing to get the hands in. Conversely, if you're bankroll is in the millions, you'd have to be beating the highest limits and the world's best players to earn any decent return on investment, whereas a trader with millions under management would not have as hard a time finding places to allocate that money to in the stock market in order to earn a decent return.As for the governments perspective, it's simple. Online gambling industry: $12 billion. U.S. investment industry: $7 TRILLION. Government greed: Priceless.Gotta disagree there. Pretty "easy" to win/lose millions/billions in the stock market. Much more difficult to do that in poker. Compare the earnings/net-worths of top business execs and top poker players...it won't really be close.That said, the price of entry, the requisite knowledge, the quickness of moving up, and smaller number of contributing factors certainly make poker an appealing "investment strategy". -
Party has made it official with a filing they made with the London Stock Exchange this morning, stating that they would withdraw their U.S. business when the bill is signed.http://www.londonstockexchange.com/LSECWS/...&source=RNSPacific also made it official:There are links in a couple of other threads. Party is confirmed pretty much. Stars...only what was on gambling911.com or something.http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15095619/Stars has not made an official decision yet. Lee Jones made a post this morning at PocketFives stating the following:http://www.pocketfives.com/9FEF5CAC-8289-4...AFCD5B87B0.aspxParadise/SportingBet initially indicated that they were going to follow 888.com's lead, but they have since gone back on that, deciding instead to stay in the U.S. market until further notice:http://www.gambling911.com/Online-Poker-Pa...ker-100206.htmlI have been looking, but have been unable to find any official word or notice from anyone at OnGame.It appears that UB, WSEX, Bodog and Absolute are staying in the U.S. market no matter what.FWIW, I deposited and played at both UB and Paradise this morning with no problems.
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Andi ... thoughts and prayers with you. One of my best friends is in a Cav unit that spent a year stationed at Camp Victory. He came home healthy and with a ton of stories and I trust you will too.
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Where are you "upstate"? There's a lot of room up here ... lol.Upstate.....and there is more than enough room for more players. So, more about the game so you have more input about the legal question. There is never money on the table. No paid dealers. We only pay for food and drinks with cash or on tab. The problem is that where we are playing a pool league is going to start playing too. So people from local bars and such are going to see us playing, where before no one saw us because we were upstairs away from everyone. We cant change the day because we all have games on other days of the week. My problem is that this game is JUICY and I dont want to see it end!!!
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Ditto to what everyone has said. 3/6 and 5/10 live play like .50/1 online ... late on a Friday night ... at Party Poker circa 2003. Seriously.God I miss live poker.