Mongoose6
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id be interested. - Got accounts at Stars and AP. Good idea mate
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sounds cool. ive bn playing plo for ages. Been looking for a thread like this :)I play under Bernabus at AP. Mainly .25/.50 HU but i dabble at 6 max and .5/1I have AIM aswell - Bernabus20Would love to gethelp from somethin like this. - Im totally psyched lol!
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Yeah, i keep bettin. Sure the J brought a 9 10 straight, but he could easily have a hand like A5. A check, and you could lose value here imo, as he could c/c.Your hands way too strong to just check this. At 25NL PLO ppl are calling stations. I assume in NLHoldem its pretty much the same.Bet with your strong hands. Dont try anything too fancy unless you know your opponent very well.Bet anything between $3-$4, and call a raise unless he shoves.(that right? a shove is the nuts 100%?)PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comsaw flopUTG+1 ($4.65)Hero (MP1) ($25)MP2 ($34.45)CO ($26.40)Button ($25.60)SB ($49.10)BB ($29.10)UTG ($5)Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K
, A2 folds, Hero bets $1, 1 fold, CO calls $1, 3 foldsFlop: ($2.35) A
, 8, 7(2 players)Hero bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50Turn: ($5.35) J
Ok so what's my next move ?? Do i c/r and call shove or lead ?? Villain in the hand is pretty aggro, yet not a complete donk. -
Raise to ~400 and fold to a 3bet.(this value bet too small?)
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I think it costs to watch. I like Baseball, but not the much lol. Not yet anyhow.What about MLB.com? -
Im a noob. I completely love your thinking, and take back my arguments for c-betting lolI need to get me one of those HEM/HUD things.I think cbetting is pretty terrible. We get no value from hands we beat and if he flats it's like WTF? And if he shoves it's like WTF? So the only result I like is if he folds when I cbet. That's not very much value. I posted this hand because I thought it was a great hand to illustrate the power of your HUD if you know how to read it right.This guys 3bet is 10% that's pretty effing high, it's not like completely unreasonable but it's bordering on that and it's fair to say he's 3betting a very big value range as well as some bluffs. So when CO opens villain would 3bet KQ,AK, TT+, probably all pocket pairs, maybe even AT+ but definitely the first 3 listed. He just flats the CO open though, so his hands are waited really strong towards like suited connectors, or just connecting cards, and possibly pocket pairs. Once I 3bet and he smooth calls again, it's pretty LOL. It seems like his hand range is just stubborn QJ and pocket pairs playing badly and sooted cards. I think there are 0 kings in his range. So when the flop comes as it does, I pretty much have the nuts imo unless he has 22 and I shoot myself in the face.So I check it here and let him make a bet and I decide to crai because even though I think his range is shitty, I believe he does have flush draws in his range and he occasionally has AQ/AJ/JQ so I don't want to just c/c and then puss out on turn to a scary card. I think it's close though, I'm never folding, but C/C flop and then either small lead to induce a shove on turn, check turn and crai or call all in and if he checks turn I either shove river or check again and let him bluff.It's scary trapping in these spots when your hand isn't that strong but I thought it was a cool spot. -
I likeYeah I misread the OP, thinking it was the pfr that we ended up heads up with.good analysis of his hand range, good thought process overall.He 'could' have KJ-K9 sooooted, but a K is really unlikely.I think a CRAI is fine but I'd probably prefer to c/c flop and c/shove turn to give him a little more rope.
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tbh i dont like checking. Sure he may fire a few bullets, but your giving up control of the pot, giving him a chance to bluff, at a relatively scary board. I would only check, like skillz says, to raise his ass! What if he bets, you call, and the turn comes a spade. Now what? I would bet out $15, possibly folding to a raise, as he may call you along the way with a 10/f-draw, but raises with a premium hand.Re-evaluate on turn.What do those stats mean again, i keep forgetting.
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I missed the last hand and bit after thatGG wandigo. lol at chat after... What was the chat?
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gg dude, well mind you did run pretty well to get HU - 10Q>A10 A7>AJSayin that, pretty shoddy play by loopers, thats poker eh? Still, 5k more than when you started. Maybe it'll feel nicer later on.
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I love it how this whole time loopers has been saying "deal?"Wandigos version of a deal is him being 1st lol. nothing else
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Nice flop sirPokerStars Game #30769613737: Tournament #180540310, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXX (25000/50000) - 2009/07/22 22:23:06 ETTable '180540310 71' 9-max Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 3: wandigo (1275365 in chips) Seat 5: loopers33 (1352900 in chips) Seat 6: kidpoker406 (3090984 in chips) Seat 9: 4Criminoles! (886751 in chips) wandigo: posts the ante 5000loopers33: posts the ante 5000kidpoker406: posts the ante 50004Criminoles!: posts the ante 5000loopers33: posts small blind 25000kidpoker406: posts big blind 50000*** HOLE CARDS ***4Criminoles!: folds wandigo: raises 60505 to 110505loopers33: folds kidpoker406: raises 2975479 to 3085984 and is all-inwandigo: calls 1159860 and is all-inUncalled bet (1815619) returned to kidpoker406*** FLOP *** [7d 6s 7h]kidpoker406 said, "ffs"*** TURN *** [7d 6s 7h] [Jh]*** RIVER *** [7d 6s 7h Jh] [5s]*** SHOW DOWN ***kidpoker406: shows [Ac Jd] (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)wandigo: shows [As 7c] (three of a kind, Sevens)wandigo collected 2585730 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 2585730 | Rake 0 Board [7d 6s 7h Jh 5s]Seat 3: wandigo (button) showed [As 7c] and won (2585730) with three of a kind, SevensSeat 5: loopers33 (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 6: kidpoker406 (big blind) showed [Ac Jd] and lost with two pair, Jacks and SevensSeat 9: 4Criminoles! folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Is there a way to watch it live?
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Ewwwwwwwwwwww.What a flop though eh! Did you think you had it for a millisecond?
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never railed before! Gl mate!
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I recently went on a trip to NY, and was lucky enough to see a Yankees game. (Yankees v Tampa Bay i think?) "We" won 4-3, with 3 runs coming in the 8th.The atmosphere was awesome, and the fact that both teams sets of fans were sitting together(is this usual?) was great, very unlike soccer here in the UK, and that 8th innings was unforgettable. Being able to see you saw a Yankees guy hit a homer was pretty sweet aswell- Nick Swisher i think.All of the things i say here may be incorrect, i am a total noob lol, so please correct me if i am. :)What i am getting at, is being in the UK, baseball aint easy to come by - watching i mean - and i was wondering if it is broadcast on the internet, or even some tv channels over here. It used to be on channel 5 every so often, but i dunno if that is still on. Even the highlights would be cool.Thanks in advance, and sorry for sounding like a total noob!
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Yeah. I ruled out folding completely. Tbh i kinda pushed cos i was scared i didnt have the balls to call the river when it, no doubt, came a scare card, which could easily hit villains range(which, might i add, is VERY wide).If you called the turn, would you be calling most rivers, assuming he shoves.If no- what rivers wouldnt you call.Thanks again for your input.Well, I'd probably say:Calling>>>>>>>shoving>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>folding.I'd say folding would be pretty terrible against this type of opponent. -
Ok, thanks a lot. Maybe i shoulda called then, on the basis of what everyone here says. Next time, against a similar opponent, i shall just call them :)You can probably guess, i shoved, and he thought for 10/15 seconds, then folded.Skillz. Where do you play, i would love to watch you one time. ( i realise how pervy this sounds lol)I play $200nlhu. For the A5 hand I would have minraised pf and folded to his 3bet most of the time. Sometimes I would 4bet as a bluff. Ace-x hands where x is a low card are usually good hands to 4bet bluff because it makes it less likely your opponent is holding an A in his hands. Had I called his reraise (I wouldn't because I'm not excited to be playing flops and getting it in when an A hits) I would call/call/call and try to let him bluff his stack at me because I have the toppest pair and villain is crazy. It's hard to make better than top pair and crazy people don't get me to fold it. -
Yeah, thats what i figured, my push does seem like a bluff, so maybe he wouldnt give me credit.The bolded part. Is this how you all feel?Maybe you're not understanding what I'm getting at...We want him to "fire bullets", we don't want to shove over top of him and only keep his value hands along. Shoving is really just turning your hand into a bluff, and it has a lot of value as a catcher.Calling >> Folding >> Shoving -
1st off, that hand with a pair of Q's, i 5bet, because he was trying to push me around. I didnt think he had much, and didnt want to flat call, see a possibly scary turn.2ndly, with A5, i honestly figured i was good on the flop. I didnt 4-bet him pf, as i didnt want to see a K-Q-4 flop and fold to a flop bet. I thought i was ahead, and pushed on the turn, cos i thought he had not very much, and didnt want him to outdraw me on the river (wrong decision, very possibly)Thanks for your thoughts though matey. I feel i am very average at 50nl and want to fix some leaks i have.Given my info though, please tell me what YOU would hav done on this hand, on every st pls. (I know its not a lot of info, but you seem very competant, and i would find your help very informative. )Do you play 50nl HU btw?Temp and Dubey are right here.I just wanted to add that I think you are probably playing pretty poorly against this guy. Why are you 5betting Qx on a Qhigh all club board? Why are you flat calling A5pf here and then not knowing how to proceed on A high flops? You need to know why you are making the decisions you are making.Personally if someone has a 20% or greater 3bet I take my pfr down to a minraise. I also 4bet a lot more. Once you 4bet more and minraise as your opener see how his stats change. Does he call 4bets? If he is calling 4bets, does he play fit or fold on the flop? If he does then 4bet a lot and fire half pot cbets and print money. If he calls 4bets and floats and shit, then only 4bet your value range. If when you minraise he starts to just call a lot then you are going to get top lay pots in position against someone. If he 3bets a lot still then what amount of money is he 3betting to?There are so many things you need to consider with your adjustments to an opponent. Thinking wow he's 3betting a lot I guess I need to call them wider is not a sound adjustment. You should know exactly how you are going to proceed on an A high flop here because that's your effing best case scenario. -
I understand what your saying, but calling leaves us stranded almost i feel. We still know nothing about the strength of Villains hand. He has shown before he can 4-bet bluff, so a 3rd barrell aint outa the question.This isnt saying that shoving isnt any better tbh. It just stops villain gettin a "free" card.I'm not meaning to be ignorant btw, i just generally feel that shoving is the best, but i wanna know why every single poster has said Call>>Shove here LOLOn a side note i LOVE your pic lol. awesomeness.call turn for pot control. against crazy opponent heads up with medium strength hands see cheap showdowns so flat turn and reevaluate river. Yes he may fire on many rivers but if you manage the craziness of this hand you can slow the wild variance that may occur when he shows up with a real hand here. If you knew he was being a lunitic donk then stay smart don't fall into the trap that looneys never have hands keep playing smart -
Yeah, to be perfectly honest, i think Shove>>Fold>>Call. I just dont know whether its the right thing to do.What do you think?Seems to me you answered your own question -
Yeah, i realise it is hard to analise from this one hand, but all you guys seem to be leaning towards calling this turn bet? Why?Calling leaves us with $46, and a pretty good chance that villain will fire a 3rd bullet regardless of the river.So, if we call, there is countless river cards that would be scary enough for me to fold eg: 7,8,9,10,J,Q,.Heck, most rivers are scary as villains range is so wide.So, say i call.river is 10h. Villain shoves. Hero?
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Been playin with the guy for 20minutes or so. I had HEM, but then it stopped working, so no help on that front.By my estimation, he has been pretty eratic. 3-betting roughly 20%. He recently 4-bet bluffed my bet on the flop when i had Q-8 on a flop of Qc 7c 6c. I pushed, he insta folded.What im asking is, am i good enough here often enough for a push to be profitable( calling isnt ok right?) or does he have A-x (where x>5) more often.Thanks in advance. Andy.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comVillain (BB) ($110.15)Hero (SB) ($82.95)Preflop: Hero is SB with A
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Hero bets $1.50, Villain raises to $5, Hero calls $3.50Flop: ($10) A, 8, 9(2 players)Villain bets $7, Hero calls $7Turn: ($24) J(2 players)Villain bets $22, Hero?
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And the 4th post agrees with... Call and re-evaluate on the turn.Sure he could have a set. he could easily have fd's and sd's. If he did have a set wouldnt he be more likely to c-raise us?Call, and see what the turn brings. I dont play these limits, but i would usually always call here and see what the turn brings.Out of interest, if you did call that is, what did the turn bring, and what did he do?