woguy213

I think most of what you said after "to maximize value..." was wrong. In your example, you don't beat a loose, crazy player by three betting with 55 on that board. You don't beat loose, crazy players by loosening up yourself even more. You beat them by tightening up, and then punishing them. So, in your example, folding would be the right play 100% of the time. As for the final sentence, the best strategy for any game of poker is always to play a tight "abc" style until you have a specific read on another player, regardless of the stakes.

Thanks for the responses guys - next time I will convert the hand. I bet out at the flop about 85-90% of the time in these spots usually, but I thought that with the size of the pot already at 580, if I bet the flop (350) and the turn, I would essentially be playing for my stack(1350 to start). As the blinds were still relatively low, I opted to try to keep the pot small by checking the flop. I probably should have raised a little more pre-flop (160ish). As it was, on the turn I bet 300 into 580, giving the caller a little less than 3:1, less than the 4:1 he needed if he was on a flush draw.

Two limpers to me one off the button with AQ off. Raised it up small, tried to keep the pot small on the flop. Bet out on the turn, and was pushed into when the flush and straight got there. Full Tilt Poker Game #3463923954: The Fifty-Fifty (25994325), Table 83 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:58:16 ET - 2007/09/04Seat 1: texlot545 (1,815)Seat 2: mamba213 (1,341)Seat 3: mikecjd (1,730)Seat 4: kleinstein000 (3,115)Seat 5: VandyGuy19 (3,010)Seat 6: BallinAcesNAGer (4,674)Seat 7: Cancer (2,335)Seat 8: BETTERLOOKIN (3,330)Seat 9: shelbywood (2,060)kleinstein000 posts the small blind of 20VandyGuy19

I'm not sure we're necessarily dealing with someone competent, here so I wouldn't rule out a lone 9 such as J9 or 910 completely. The river raise definitely feels like a strong raise and not a bluff - it is possible that the villain flopped a set. I think that a straight bets out on the turn, trying to get at least SOME value, but this is a tough spot to be in. He probably has a boat, so I would fold. Also, I usually play tournaments so I'm pretty lost here. Results??

I don't know why I did it, but I actually went and checked sharkscope for this kid's stats.103 games playedAve. Profit: $0Ave. Stake: $6Ave. ROI: -3%Total Profit: -$18

I think I would have raised the turn - for two reasons. 1. If he is a weak/passive player who's drawing, he's going to call. 2. considering your past history with him (folding the river when bet into) this appears to be the best chance of getting additional money out of him.

Lol, well done. I was just going to come on and give a link to a cardplayer article, but your post was so mind numbingly retarded, I had to say thank you. My favorite part was the opening line about not being able to use "real strategy" and forgetting whatever you know about poker when playing on-line. I'm 100% certain that you lost more than a few buy-ins online, couldn't figure out how to beat the game, and then blamed it on "donkeys" getting lucky every time. http://www.cardplayer.com/magazine/article/16907

So last night I was playing and came across a similar situation to the OP. It was a live game, so the details are less than perfect. I had been playing very tight throughout my first three/four rounds at the table (it was a $3/$5 blinds game with a max buy-in of $200)...when I was dealt aces in late position. One limper to me - he was playing weird hands in odd positions - one hand he limped with j-4 off, called a raise, called a flop bet and turned two pair. He was a weird, loose player pre-flop and fairly tight post-flop. An unusual combination, and one that I can't imagine is a winning one

I'm pretty sure that's how I would have played it also...folding is the worst of your three options in my opinion, especially against a weak, tight player with the possibility of a loose player calling behind. Calling probably brings along the big, loose stack, but with three players in the hand you will likely have to let go when an over drops and there is a bet in front of you. It is an ugly spot, but I think raising is the best play.

one other question for future posts...about how long should I wait to post the results?

Thanks, obviously I'm new (to posting, at least) here so I messed up this post a little bit, I'll get better. I didn't use a hand history converter because I wasn't sure if I could leave out part of the hand? But I've never used one before, so I will try for next time. That pokerstove breakdown is helpful - I need to use it more often. I have one question - I think you are pretty close to his opening range, but his range for CALLING my push is a little smaller - how should I approach calculating that in the future? I mean, do I calculate my equity against his opening range or against his call

He actually had bet the same way he had c-bet several other players who were shorter than me. They had all folded though, so I had never seen the strength of his hand.

Thanks for the responses guys, in the actual hand, I called pre-flop (obviously) and then pushed the flop. He called with KQ and I was toast. I actually e-mailed this hand to Eric "Rizen" Lynch and just got back his response, in case anybody wants to read:In general, calling off more than 10% of your chips pre-flop is a bad play. As you can see, when you call off there the pot is so big you create a very tough situation for yourself later. You don't mention what your actual holding is here. If you raise pre-flop make it 27-30k or so, just because that looks a lot scarier than pushign does, bu

I was playing in a $19k guaranteed $24 tournament on Full Tilt. We started with 1099 players, and 1st took about $5k. We got down to 24 players, and this hand came up:Blinds: 1500/3000, with a 400 chip ante. Chip leader (117k in chips) raises UTG+2 to 9k, everybody folds to me (50k in chips) on the button, with 8-8. My first inclination was to raise here, but I flat called. Is this a mistake? He's chip leader, and he had definitely been raising more than his share. He is in early position, but he does have a bigger than normal range. But if I raise to 30k and he calls, I'm pretty much all-in

For the record, I'm pretty sure my first answer was correct, when I said even though his most likely holding is J9, you still need to call because of pot odds and the possibility that he could have two pair there. A fold isn't terrible there though, and if he was more certain than I was that he had the straight (obviously he was), that's a great lay down. As for the play in the hand, if I were the hero I would have checked the turn, if you are behind you have 10 outs, and you won't have to risk your whole stack on the river if you miss. We are assuming that the villain will bet out, but at thi